The Trump Doctrine Defined: ‘We’re America, B*tch’

a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

The reality: we still walk softly.

I'm not an old man, nor a young one, and I can't remember a time when we did walk softy.

The departure is that Trump isn't doing apology tours, and it appears that if he's enriching his buddies, its not directly at the expense of traditional federal cash cows.

Not being an apologist is not the same as being humble.

At the worst: its a different kind of crooked that seems to be achieving results.

That could be true.

a reply to: SunnyDee

Why don't you actually look at this TrumpKim meeting an d judge accordingly. Do you see arrogance? Trump has the balls and the courtesy to meet Kim. I'm sure you will find something wrong with his visit though. Trump is loud as necessary and quiet equally, you just have to view him with different eyes.

I did not say anything about the meeting. I was talking about our attitude in general.

Not sure what you are on about.

originally posted by: Kryties
Quick question:

What's America going to do when the rest of the world finally grows tired of all the "America is the Greatest" nonsense and starts to wall you off and give you the isolation you so clearly crave?

Good luck sustaining your population for long when you can't import anything lol.

Lol. Huge difference between “isolation” and stopping the free for all theivery being perpetrated against America by nations across the globe who claim they are America’s allies. There will never be “isolation” of America...soon as any ally country is threatened militarily, they come running to America to beg for help in defending their borders (even though they think they know best for America controlling its own borders). Then they come running to America for handouts to rebuild their country they couldn't defend on their own. See history for the recurring examples.

originally posted by: Iamonlyhuman
THIS is why America elected Donald J. Trump. Love it or hate it, America is a nation of proud individuals that had been effectively neutered.

It was bound to happen.

www.theatlantic.com...

The best distillation of the Trump Doctrine I heard, though, came from a senior White House official with direct access to the president and his thinking.... “There’s definitely a Trump Doctrine.”

“What is it?” I asked.

Here is the answer I received: “The Trump Doctrine is ‘We’re America, Bitch.’ That’s the Trump Doctrine.”

It struck me almost immediately that this was the most acute, and attitudinally honest, description of the manner in which members of Trump’s team, and Trump himself, understand their role in the world. I asked this official to explain the idea. “Obama apologized to everyone for everything. He felt bad about everything.” President Trump, this official said, “doesn’t feel like he has to apologize for anything America does.”

I later asked another senior official, one who rendered the doctrine not as “We’re America, Bitch” but as “We’re America, Bitches,” whether he was aware of the 2004 movie Team America: World Police, whose theme song was “America, F**k Yeah!”

“Of course,” he said, laughing. “The president believes that we’re America, and people can take it or leave it.”

The old public relations formula of politicking, the public/private views approach where leaders did their best acting routine in order to placate the populace, is dead.

a reply to: Iamonlyhuman

The interesting thing about this doctrine is that it forces Trump's opponents further to the left.


How is anyone going to counter, "We're America!"

Trump is brash, bold, and often wrong. But he's making progress, and the country is benefitting from it.

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: Iamonlyhuman

I've always thought that we need leadership that is wise, humble and calculating.

A doctrine of "we're America, bitch" sounds like an arrogant teenager with an over-inflated sense of importance and an entitled mentality.

If that is the goal, mission accomplished.

I prefer a "walk softly and carry a big stick" approach. Not a "walk loudly and tell everyone how big your stick is" approach.

Times have changed, thank the left for getting Trump and his style in office.

Get ready to thank them for a second term and a Nobel

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: Iamonlyhuman

I've always thought that we need leadership that is wise, humble and calculating.

A doctrine of "we're America, bitch" sounds like an arrogant teenager with an over-inflated sense of importance and an entitled mentality.

If that is the goal, mission accomplished.

I prefer a "walk softly and carry a big stick" approach. Not a "walk loudly and tell everyone how big your stick is" approach.

I also prefer the "walk softly and carry a big stick" approach, but occasionally you need to remind people that you actually have the big stick.

The countries of the world respect POWER, not apologies; Assertiveness, not passivity; Leadership, not idleness.

Once the countries of the world remember what the US is capable of, perhaps we can all move forward together.

a reply to: Iamonlyhuman

I later asked another senior official, one who rendered the doctrine not as “We’re America, Bitch” but as “We’re America, Bitches,” whether he was aware of the 2004 movie Team America: World Police, whose theme song was “America, F**k Yeah!”

“Of course,” he said, laughing. “The president believes that we’re America, and people can take it or leave it.”

What was left unsaid about this movie and its theme song in particular is that this movie is a satire making fun of attitudes like this.

originally posted by: Lab4Us


Lol. Huge difference between “isolation” and stopping the free for all theivery being perpetrated against America by nations across the globe who claim they are America’s allies.

Yeah, see, that's not true. We give as much as America does. It's called "Trade".

I guess if you only watch Fox News and read right-wing websites then you're not getting the full picture.

There will never be “isolation” of America...soon as any ally country is threatened militarily, they come running to America to beg for help in defending their borders (even though they think they know best for America controlling its own borders).

America decided to become the "worlds police", expand it's military bases all over the world and then wonders why people come to it for help?

It boggles the mind, it really does.

Then they come running to America for handouts to rebuild their country they couldn't defend on their own. See history for the recurring examples.

More Fox News/right-wing propaganda nonsense that is easily disprovable for anyone with half a brain and a knowledge of the world outside their little bubble.

originally posted by: Butterfinger

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: Iamonlyhuman

I've always thought that we need leadership that is wise, humble and calculating.

A doctrine of "we're America, bitch" sounds like an arrogant teenager with an over-inflated sense of importance and an entitled mentality.

If that is the goal, mission accomplished.

I prefer a "walk softly and carry a big stick" approach. Not a "walk loudly and tell everyone how big your stick is" approach.

Times have changed, thank the left for getting Trump and his style in office.

Get ready to thank them for a second term and a Nobel

A great example of the teenage arrogance I was speaking of.

originally posted by: BomSquad

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: Iamonlyhuman

I've always thought that we need leadership that is wise, humble and calculating.

A doctrine of "we're America, bitch" sounds like an arrogant teenager with an over-inflated sense of importance and an entitled mentality.

If that is the goal, mission accomplished.

I prefer a "walk softly and carry a big stick" approach. Not a "walk loudly and tell everyone how big your stick is" approach.

I also prefer the "walk softly and carry a big stick" approach, but occasionally you need to remind people that you actually have the big stick.

The countries of the world respect POWER, not apologies; Assertiveness, not passivity; Leadership, not idleness.

Once the countries of the world remember what the US is capable of, perhaps we can all move forward together.

There is no respect to be had in taking an attitude of chest-thumping, arrogance and hubris.

Literally, you just described the mentality of a douche bag bully.

Meanwhile popular in chinese social media:

a reply to: introvert

Krauthammer is dying, and published an opinion piece over the last couple of days that I thought was interesting. He points out that Trumps biggest problem is that he's neither Conservative or Liberal. He's Pragmatic. Meaning he doesn't face issues with the weight of political dogma wrapped around his neck like a yoke. He faces problems with a desire to create a solution.

As a business man, this is something I wholly endorse. Solutions aren't partisan. If they are, then they aren't a solution.

I think its an interesting lens to view current events through, and it helps make more sense out of what we see. Everyone keeps wanting to talk politics about a President that isn't a politician.

a reply to: neo96

Millions all over the globe try to emulate us,

Who would seriously want to emulate a country where people die because they don't have enough money?

Seriously

a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

Partisan or not, he is a terrible leader and has leadership qualities akin to an authoritarian.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

Partisan or not, he is a terrible leader and has leadership qualities akin to an authoritarian.

Are you basing this on what he's done, or what you think about his style?

a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

His actions, demeanor, and words. His attacks on the press, honoring authoritarians and their authoritarian actions (like Duerte's extrajudicial killings of drug users), turning his back on other democracies and pretending like they are a national security threat, oh and his insatiable ego that is a characteristic of most to all authoritarians.

a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

True. Trump is not the typical politician that is burdened by traditional politics. His burden lies within.

Remember, Trump is not a businessman in the sense you and I understand it. He is a salesman. He sells an image. He sells branding. He sells optics and ego, which plays a huge roll in his actions and presidency.

Whether or not that produces results, or whether he has an actual "desire" to create solutions, remains to be seen. We shall see.

It's difficult to tell because we have to get past the snake-oil salesmen to see what is really going on.

What is really funny is I've been gone from this site for years and I come back and it's still the same players towing their lines. I'd be one of them haha!

What I do see clearly is for whatever reason, certain characters work hard here daily, and never waiver, and use manipulative tactics when they don't have anything else valid to say. It's tempting to argue with them, if only for the anonymous readers that haven't formed strong opinions, but really do those even exist anymore?

If you want your own opinion validated you can find a friend here. Sadly, that does not get the hard work done.

This is nothing new. The American people have always had this attitude. Just look at the board in any given President's administration. It's just louder now. And frankly more annoying.