The ridiculous case of victim Colten Boushie

originally posted by: the2ofusr1
a reply to: DrumsRfun

It is a court of law...not a court of justice.

Our justice system is a game played out on or in a court with a judge . I have often referred to it as the " just us system " and it is . The laws are made by the law society which we are not a part of . So at the end of the day we have one society imposing on another society which by the way is not legal . Any society can impose laws on its own members who wish to be a part of that society but it would be like our society imposing laws against their law society .

I am not sure what Country you are referring to where the "law society", as some disembodied entity, imposes laws on the rest of society...but In Canada, laws are made by elected representatives of the people (at the local, proviincial and federal levels). The Law Society, in actuality, is the Government sanctioned body that grants people the right to practice law...whereby they follow the laws enacted by the various levels of Government.

The Courts hear cases (by judge or jury), and adjudicate based on the facts presented by both the prosecution and the defence, and in keeping with witness testimony - and the laws on the books. The decisions that come out of the courts, in some cases, may be considered as "clarifications" of the law and can then become part of the greater "common law" and precident. Perhaps this is what you mean...not sure.

In any event, you are wrong (if you are referring to Canada) if you think that there is a society of lawmakers who create and impose laws on the rest of society. Although the system is not perfect, the fact is that laws are made by elected representatives (who represent society at large) - and if they enact laws that are counter to the majority of the people's wishes they can be thrown out of office...and new laws written to replace the offending ones.

a reply to: DBCowboy

Don't steal other people's stuff and your chances of getting shot drop drastically.

It could be argued that the Europeans stole the Natives land in fact Prime minster Mulroney said as much .There has never been one single acre of land ceded to the Crown in Eastern Canada .

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: DrumsRfun

When you commit a crime, when you violate someone's property, when you break the law, then you get what you deserve.

In this case it was a .22 through the skull.


Don't steal other people's stuff and your chances of getting shot drop drastically.

See my post on the last page. That doesn't fly up here. Life supersedes property.

a reply to: intrepid

then I guess it's okay to steal stuff in Canada.

*shrugs*


Silly laws if you ask me.

a reply to: mobiusmale

The Law Society, in actuality, is the Government sanctioned body that grants people the right to practice law...whereby they follow the laws enacted by the various levels of Government.

There gets to be a bit of ambiguity as to the cart and horse here . Which came first the Crown or the law ? How could treaties be done legally even before there was a Canadian Govt . The Govt' law makers are members of the law society . The law society is not the Govt. We the people are the Canadian society made up of different peoples in different places . The Crown is a Corporation and is listed on the stock exchange . This vid might be worth considering

originally posted by: the2ofusr1
a reply to: DBCowboy

Don't steal other people's stuff and your chances of getting shot drop drastically.

It could be argued that the Europeans stole the Natives land in fact Prime minster Mulroney said as much .There has never been one single acre of land ceded to the Crown in Eastern Canada .

It could be argued that the Asians crossing the land bridge into north America 35,000 years ago stole the land from the wooly mammoths.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: intrepid

then I guess it's okay to steal stuff in Canada.

*shrugs*


Silly laws if you ask me.

We just don't kill each other over the small stuff. Better way to live imo.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: the2ofusr1
a reply to: DBCowboy

Don't steal other people's stuff and your chances of getting shot drop drastically.

It could be argued that the Europeans stole the Natives land in fact Prime minster Mulroney said as much .There has never been one single acre of land ceded to the Crown in Eastern Canada .

It could be argued that the Asians crossing the land bridge into north America 35,000 years ago stole the land from the wooly mammoths.

They were disadvantaged. Not having opposable thumbs made it difficult for the mammoths to hold spears and clubs.

originally posted by: intrepid

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: intrepid

then I guess it's okay to steal stuff in Canada.

*shrugs*


Silly laws if you ask me.

We just don't kill each other over the small stuff. Better way to live imo.

Again, your country, your laws.

Not my clowns, not my circus. I just gave my opinion, as an ugly primitive violent American.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: intrepid

then I guess it's okay to steal stuff in Canada.

*shrugs*

Silly laws if you ask me.

***that just reminded me - must go take pics of tools for insurance company

originally posted by: snowspirit

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: intrepid

then I guess it's okay to steal stuff in Canada.

*shrugs*

Silly laws if you ask me.

***that just reminded me - must go take pics of tools for insurance company

Don't bother got you covered...

a reply to: DBCowboy

It could be argued that the Asians crossing the land bridge into north America 35,000 years ago stole the land from the wooly mammoths.

LOL ..Mamothland or just Wooly . Its like arguing that Salmon have the legal right to swim up stream . Should they choose to :>)

originally posted by: the2ofusr1
a reply to: mobiusmale

The Law Society, in actuality, is the Government sanctioned body that grants people the right to practice law...whereby they follow the laws enacted by the various levels of Government.

There gets to be a bit of ambiguity as to the cart and horse here . Which came first the Crown or the law ? How could treaties be done legally even before there was a Canadian Govt . The Govt' law makers are members of the law society . The law society is not the Govt. We the people are the Canadian society made up of different peoples in different places . The Crown is a Corporation and is listed on the stock exchange . This vid might be worth considering

Well, of the course, the original "Crowns"...if we are talking about the beginning of the processes that led to the displacement of "Indian" peoples from their lands...were the Crowns of England and France in the current-day Canada and the United States (along with the Spanish and Dutch nations in certain parts of the US as well). As things progressed over time, the British Government enacted certain laws that applied to restricting the westward expansion of Europeans in North America...some of which were eventually ignored by the Americans after their Revolution, and in Canada the rules kept changing such that expansion continued as well (sorry, not a scolar on this period). Overall, over time, due to the shere force of numbers, superior military capabilities - and a healthy dose of "unfair legal tactics", Native populations were eventually forced into relatively small areas now known as "Reserves".

A sad progression, to be sure (as are any stories of conquest, and how they affect the original inhabitants).

Quite a few lawyers (members of the law society) are elected to Government positions...seems logical, since one of their important jobs is to enact laws...but you do not need to be a lawyer to be a member of a government body. In fact, if my numbers are right, out of the 308 Federal MPs only 43 are former lawyers - the PM is a former school teacher.

The Crown (by which, in the current context, I assume you mean the Government of Canada) is not a Corporation...although the Government does own a number of "Crown Corporations"...like Via Rail and the Royal Canadian Mint, some of which are publically traded.

There is no doubt that...especially as Governments move further and further to the left...they tend to write laws that impose themselves on individual (or collective) rights (referring to some of the discussions in the video, regarding the control of speech, and even thought) - and the population must remain vigilant, and vigourously protest when things go too far.

As Wynn recently found out in Ontario, I suspect that Justin Trudeau will be short-lived in his self-assumed role of a globalist feminist socialist...but time will tell. The times they are a changing.

I would have much more sympathy for the Boushie family if they weren’t known for their criminal behaviours . Colten and his friends were up to no good the previous evening as well. Rural crime is up in Saskatchewan, and some farmers have died on their properties. The Stanley’s had very good reason to fear for their lives.

Just to make it clear Gerald Stanley was aquitted because jury could not prove the old gun wasn’t shot at Colten because of delay.

The Boushies want us to feel sorry for their children engaging in criminal behaviour, yet do nothing to show them the correct and decent way to live.

a reply to: mobiusmale

One of the harder reads for me was the Royal Commissions Reports on Aboriginal Affairs .Not only a hard read but a painful one . Sitting on some dusty shelf (no doubt) to this day . You say it was conquest but I see it as a conspiracy by hook or by crook . Those Jesuits ...