Wolf? Dog? Wolfdog?

a reply to: Blaine91555

I once saw a pack of wild dogs (all sorts of presumably domesticated dogs. Not wolves or coyotes) surround and attack a new born foal and mare. We threw rocks until they dispersed, but we were on the rez and in transit, so we couldn't hang around. Heaven only knows what happened after Even "domesticated" dogs will pack and hunt when push comes to shove.

Wouldn't want to deal with the risk of a larger wild animal. I've had sheppards, but I think the jump to wolf or hybrid is a step too far for me (Not judging Elostone or his beautiful pup, who quite possibly has a lovely temperament and has shown no signs of aggre-- just not a risk *I* would take).

I see a young wolf-dog hybrid.

Here's the Official Montana FWP PDF
Young non lactating female and as mentioned throughout articles, etc., appears to be a hybrid. The results of the samples, of course, will take some time.

a reply to: RadioRobert
He isn't aggressive at all.
I'm not even sure if he'd be a good watch dog or if he would protect me lol.
I've worked very hard at socializing him.
He gets along with other dogs, even smaller dogs, but he can get a little rambunctious with bigger dogs.
He's super high energy and wears out all the dogs at the dog park.
I had him neutered when he was 9 months old to make him less aggressive and less of a tendency to try to get out.
I can't let him off leash, except at the dog park and at home.
He has never shown any aggression towards anyone.

I've worked very hard with him and will continue to do so as long as he lives.

EtA All that said, he is different from other dogs...he is much more aloof than a normal dog.
He is very aware of everything going on around him, if something is different or out of place he notices it immediately.
He seems more distracted by scents than most dogs.
He wants to be where I am or where he can see me, but he isn't interested in being cuddled or gushed over much. He does have his affectionate moments when he wants to be petted and give kisses, but not like regular dogs and that makes those moments special.
BTW, it's just me in the house, no kids or other pets.

a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed

Sigh...
Please explain to me why the government would secretly be making, of all things, a random-ass ugly dog? That would accomplish what, exactly?

originally posted by: Maroboduus
a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed

Sigh...
Please explain to me why the government would secretly be making, of all things, a random-ass ugly dog? That would accomplish what, exactly?

There are lots of possible reasons why they might do that. Here's one example: The military uses dogs. It stands to reason that someone at some point in time said "Hey, let's figure out how to create better ones that are smarter and stronger". It's pretty much a guarantee that it will happen if it hasn't already.

a reply to: RadioRobert

Once they form a pack and start killing, the only option is to euthanize them, even if they are your own. They will never stop.

originally posted by: loam
I guess ATS felt like emphasizing my post. Lol

Too bad you didn't have the curtesy to correct ATS's mistake (allowing the same post to duplicate...software error) by deleting the erroneous duplicates.

Looks like a Fox Hybrid to me .

It's a ChalupaCabrito.
They will eat your goats and chickens.
There are some freaky canine hybrids running wild in southern Texas, including one that looks like a hairless coyote with a long "rat-tail."

originally posted by: IAMAMOG
a reply to: RadioRobert

looks like a cross with african hunting/ dog if that's even possible

I suspect that's what may happen through multiple generations of wild breeding of different canines.
They start to revert back to their more primitive form that human selective-breeding changed the modern dog into.

a reply to: RadioRobert

Looks to me like a coy-dog, with a lot more dog than coy.

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed
a reply to: RadioRobert

Texas unknown hybrid

Edit: Yes, coyote and some kind of Mexican wolf was the closest DNA match, but it still was missing information, plus the actual physical characteristics with the 2 pads on that critter's rear end resembled the pads on some monkeys, and not found on any canine.


(These images are actual images of this veterinarians specimen she found)

I watched a documentary, can't remember which one, that focused on that Texas veterinarian's discovery and she even had a taxidermist preserve it and stuffed 100 percent intact. It had some completely strange and unknown physical characteristics to it that should not exist and don't exist for any known species. The government agencies she contacted denied she found anything even though she has physical proof of it. There have been a few of those seen and photographed besides her find.

Personally, I think it is the result of secret underground genetic hybrid research and creation, and they are purposely letting some get out into the wild.

Saw one on the bank of Buffalo Bayou in Houston very recently. It's like a coyote, a naked mole-rat, and a possum fell into a blender.

originally posted by: skunkape23
It's a ChalupaCabrito.
They will eat your goats and chickens.
There are some freaky canine hybrids running wild in southern Texas, including one that looks like a hairless coyote with a long "rat-tail."

That one always struck me as a cross between a greyhound (some racetracks used to dump live ones in the desert as opposed to killing them or adopting them) and a coyote. The long tail and big chest are very reminiscent of a grey. The skin though is very reminiscent of a Xolo.

a reply to: Elostone


Beautiful dog!

a reply to: skunkape23

They seem to be really invading Texas.

Also, another strange anomaly with this creature is that the females only have 4 or 6 teets instead of the normal 10 or so on all canine species. Cross breeding doesn't account for that. There is no known explanation for this, except possible genetic engineering.

well looks like you have what it takes to own one of these animals elostone .
one question ( you probly work and being no other primates or animals in your home just how does he do being alone for long times ?

Dogs wolfs are normally social animals much like humans . Bet you believe you not as social as most but that is far from true unless your stuck at home and dont work .
your wolf dog on the other hand .

a reply to: midnightstar

I'm home full time.
Because socialization is so important, I've taken great pains to have him around other dogs since he was a puppy.
We go to the dog park almost every day.
There's a lady who operates a "sanctuary" for wolf dogs that have been given up by their owners not far from me.
I take him there occasionally to run and play with a couple of the dogs she has as well.



Edit to add...he doesn't do well away from me unless he's with one of the few people I have come sit with him.

One of the best movies ever.

Update if anyone is interested:

The agency said Monday that an inspection of the animal at its laboratory revealed it to be a relatively normal-looking wolf. DNA tests confirmed that it was a gray wolf.

Source

I have a pup I got last year about 100 miles away from a there at a shelter that looks really similar. Im about to send the DNA in to see if it's he's related to this one, considering neither I or anyone I've met has been able to tell me what they think my dog is. Let me know what you guys think.

*Update I'm currently trying to figure out how to post pictures