New NFL Policy. Re: The National Anthem.

a reply to: shooterbrody

The nfl has a "conduct policy". If that is "broken" it is an automatic 6 game suspension.

Which of the below would protesting the national anthem by rolling their eyes garner a player an automatic six game suspension?

But even if the conduct does not result in a criminal conviction, players
found to have engaged in any of the following conduct will be subject to discipline. Prohibited conduct
includes but is not limited to the following:

Actual or threatened physical violence against another person, including dating violence,
domestic violence, child abuse, and other forms of family violence;

Assault and/or battery, including sexual assault or other sex offenses;

Violent or threatening behavior toward another employee or a third party in any workplace
setting;

Stalking, harassment, or similar forms of intimidation;

Illegal possession of a gun or other weapon (such as explosives, toxic substances, and the like),
or possession of a gun or other weapon in any workplace setting;

Illegal possession, use, or distribution of alcohol or drugs;

Possession, use, or distribution of steroids or other performance enhancing substances;

Crimes involving cruelty to animals as defined by state or federal law;

Crimes of dishonesty such as blackmail, extortion, fraud, money laundering, or racketeering;

Theft-related crimes such as burglary, robbery, or larceny;

Disorderly conduct;

Crimes against law enforcement, such as obstruction, resisting arrest, or harming a police
officer or other law enforcement officer;

Conduct that poses a genuine danger to the safety and well-being of another person; and

Conduct that undermines or puts at risk the integrity of the NFL, NFL clubs, or NFL personnel.

originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: network dude

Sports is just entertainment. I don’t know why we even have the national anthem played with U.S. teams. At the Olympics - I get it.

We don’t play the national anthem right before a movie starts at the cinema, or at the opera or ballet. Why do it before a football game?

Exactly. And if you're watching an "international" hockey or baseball game you have to endure Oh Canada right after the Star Spangled Banner. Man I hate that.

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: network dude

Why do it before a football game?

I believe it started being played before sporting events as a way to stir-up patriotism and support for the first world war.

Perhaps you and Kayluv could protest the NFL and have them remove the offending parts. While it would appear unamerican on the surface, the American way is to be able to enact change, so picking apart a bit of patriotism would go right along with the movement to remove God from anything public. It seems to fit right in with the left's agenda. (Trump is for patriotism)

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: intrepid

Isn't it sad that the NFL feels the need to explain themselves or placate to ultra-nationalists?

I think they just got tired of having SJW's dictate the rules.

The NFL dictates their own rules.

Not sure how your comment is relevant.

The efforts by many of our players sparked awareness and action around issues of social justice that must be addressed. The platform that we have created together is certainly unique in professional sports and quite likely in American business. We are honored to work with our players to drive progress.

I'm not sure how it's not. They even say "Social Justice" right in the quoted part of the article. You did read the article didn't you?

Where did it say the SJW's were dictating policy?

a reply to: intrepid

Never been much of a fan for pro sports anyway. About all I really enjoy for a sporting contest is P B R.

Next time some NFL player wants to show off how "macho" he is, put him of a 1200 lb. bull for 8 seconds.

a reply to: network dude

Perhaps you and Kayluv could protest the NFL and have them remove the offending parts.

While would I protest the NFL or want them to remove anything?

I don't watch football. Bread and circus is all it is.

While it would appear unamerican on the surface, the American way is to be able to enact change, so picking apart a bit of patriotism would go right along with the movement to remove God from anything public. It seems to fit right in with the left's agenda.

Not only were you able to toss in something about patriotism, you got god in there as well. As I said. This issue appeals to ultra-nationalist types.

God and country, right?

Bread and circus...right?

Heh this will just cause more people to stay in the locker room and cause more social media hatred. But I understand fully why the NFL is doing it, they most likely lost money last season and money is all they care about.

The management fully understands that the players may choose to stay in the locker room and will but the PR team told them to do this in order to protect their own image during the season, "Well, we recommended what they should do, it's on them now."

Here's what I would do if I were a player --

Post a photo of yourself on social media before EVERY game, with a hand over your heart, with a caption -- I love my country and I love my flag. And then stay in the locker room.

I love my country and my flag on my own, not because someone demands of me to do so.

Why can't the NFL just grow a pair and state employees are required to be on the field for the national anthem. If the players don't like it, they can go find a new job.

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: intrepid

Isn't it sad that the NFL feels the need to explain themselves or placate to ultra-nationalists?

I think they just got tired of having SJW's dictate the rules.

The NFL dictates their own rules.

Not sure how your comment is relevant.

The efforts by many of our players sparked awareness and action around issues of social justice that must be addressed. The platform that we have created together is certainly unique in professional sports and quite likely in American business. We are honored to work with our players to drive progress.

I'm not sure how it's not. They even say "Social Justice" right in the quoted part of the article. You did read the article didn't you?

Where did it say the SJW's were dictating policy?

Sigh, wow, this is another painful post. But I'll give one up for the team.

See, a while ago a player named Collin Capernek decided he wanted to protest police brutality against brown people. So he didn't stand for the National Anthem, which many people didn't like. (Those people had every right not to like it) Well, President Trump made a comment about it, and that really upset the easily triggered folks. So those triggered individuals decided to all do the same thing. Then the fans got more upset and decided that nobody was forcing them to watch, so they turned it off.

Well, about that time, the NFL started to notice that the money they used to make was more than the money they currently were making, that made them sad pandas. They tried to puff up and pretend they didn't care, but the money just kept not coming in. So you get what we have here today. The NFL deciding that those SJW's or Social Justice Warriors who wanted to protest during the National Anthem, would no longer be able to make the rules. The NFL would make them either stand up, or do their protest in private.

And in all that, Trump only had to say one thing, and it upset a whole bunch of folks.

But today, I think some of those fans are happy and might go back to watching football. Some may not.

I hope this lesson was written well enough to make you comprehend my earlier point.

a reply to: Kharron

I always thought the impact would have been greater if they took a knee while on the field instead of the National Anthem.

It would have created more talk, and there'd be no confusion on whether or not they hate America.

Money wins again.

originally posted by: Kharron
Heh this will just cause more people to stay in the locker room and cause more social media hatred. But I understand fully why the NFL is doing it, they most likely lost money last season and money is all they care about.

The management fully understands that the players may choose to stay in the locker room and will but the PR team told them to do this in order to protect their own image during the season, "Well, we recommended what they should do, it's on them now."

Here's what I would do if I were a player --

Post a photo of yourself on social media before EVERY game, with a hand over your heart, with a caption -- I love my country and I love my flag. And then stay in the locker room.

I love my country and my flag on my own, not because someone demands of me to do so.

NFL viewership has been dropping for years.

This protest nonsense was just more icing on the cake for an industry that will slowly become irrelevant.

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: network dude

Perhaps you and Kayluv could protest the NFL and have them remove the offending parts.

While would I protest the NFL or want them to remove anything?

I don't watch football. Bread and circus is all it is.

While it would appear unamerican on the surface, the American way is to be able to enact change, so picking apart a bit of patriotism would go right along with the movement to remove God from anything public. It seems to fit right in with the left's agenda.

Not only were you able to toss in something about patriotism, you got god in there as well. As I said. This issue appeals to ultra-nationalist types.

God and country, right?

Bread and circus...right?

It might surprise you, but yes, there are still some Americans who believe in God and are proud to live in the United States. If that bothers you, I feel I can say this on behalf of all the "Ultra-Nationalists", deal with it.

a reply to: notsure1

Nothing says totalitarian like forcing people to stand for a worthless spectacle

if this is Trump winning, it says a lot how people think

a reply to: network dude

Sigh, wow, this is another painful post. But I'll give one up for the team.

Be careful. Last time you tried something like this is ended badly for you. I suppose arrogance can blind some people, huh?

See, a while ago a player named Collin Capernek decided he wanted to protest police brutality against brown people. So he didn't stand for the National Anthem, which many people didn't like. (Those people had every right not to like it) Well, President Trump made a comment about it, and that really upset the easily triggered folks. So those triggered individuals decided to all do the same thing. Then the fans got more upset and decided that nobody was forcing them to watch, so they turned it off.

Ok. I already knew that.

Well, about that time, the NFL started to notice that the money they used to make was more than the money they currently were making, that made them sad pandas. They tried to puff up and pretend they didn't care, but the money just kept not coming in. So you get what we have here today. The NFL deciding that those SJW's or Social Justice Warriors who wanted to protest during the National Anthem, would no longer be able to make the rules. The NFL would make them either stand up, or do their protest in private.

So the NFL dictated policy, not SJW's.

Ok. That's what I thought.

And in all that, Trump only had to say one thing, and it upset a whole bunch of folks. But today, I think some of those fans are happy and might go back to watching football. Some may not. I hope this lesson was written well enough to make you comprehend my earlier point.

It was a waste of time. Again, the SJW's did not dictate policy. The NFL did.

a reply to: network dude

Why don’t they play it everywhere and all the time then? Why not play it before an airplane takes off, or on a continuous loop at the grocery store, or at the mall, or in a public restroom, or any other place where people gather in public? I just don’t get why it’s so important to play it before a bunch of big hairy guys start knocking each other down.

originally posted by: Annee
Money wins again.

It's always about money.

Before I believe it hurt the income very much, I would have to see their number.

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: Kharron
Heh this will just cause more people to stay in the locker room and cause more social media hatred. But I understand fully why the NFL is doing it, they most likely lost money last season and money is all they care about.

The management fully understands that the players may choose to stay in the locker room and will but the PR team told them to do this in order to protect their own image during the season, "Well, we recommended what they should do, it's on them now."

Here's what I would do if I were a player --

Post a photo of yourself on social media before EVERY game, with a hand over your heart, with a caption -- I love my country and I love my flag. And then stay in the locker room.

I love my country and my flag on my own, not because someone demands of me to do so.

NFL viewership has been dropping for years.

This protest nonsense was just more icing on the cake for an industry that will slowly become irrelevant.

I care about football as much as I care about reality TV, but I don't think it will be going away. As you said, bread and games, panem et circenses... it is a necessary part of every society that is ruled by someone; the more people talk about football, the less they talk about politics and what's going on around them.

Games and entertainment, no matter how pointless they may be, I don't think they're going away. If they do, we can be pretty sure, it's the end.

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: network dude

Perhaps you and Kayluv could protest the NFL and have them remove the offending parts.

While would I protest the NFL or want them to remove anything?

I don't watch football. Bread and circus is all it is.

While it would appear unamerican on the surface, the American way is to be able to enact change, so picking apart a bit of patriotism would go right along with the movement to remove God from anything public. It seems to fit right in with the left's agenda.

Not only were you able to toss in something about patriotism, you got god in there as well. As I said. This issue appeals to ultra-nationalist types.

God and country, right?

Bread and circus...right?

It might surprise you, but yes, there are still some Americans who believe in God and are proud to live in the United States. If that bothers you, I feel I can say this on behalf of all the "Ultra-Nationalists", deal with it.

I do deal with it. I also have no problem calling people out for being bread and circus sheep.

Much of American marketing is designed to placate to boobs such as yourself.

Talk about god and country and you will spend your money.

Just look at good ole Budweiser on that one. They capitalized heavily on that patriotic meme.

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: intrepid

Isn't it sad that the NFL feels the need to explain themselves or placate to ultra-nationalists?

Those "utra nationalists" are just American football fans who got sick of being preached at and insulted by assholes in the field and asshole elitist commentators, when all they wanted to do is have fun watching a game.