Gina Haspel confirmed as CIA director, first woman to lead agency

a reply to: Metallicus

It's about time! Women have always been the sneakier of the two sexes anyways.

originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg
I don't give a flying flip what race, sex or sexual preference the head of the CIA is, but if they can't give a clear answer to the question of if torture is immoral, they deserve to be thrown in the Potomac with weights around their ankles.
She condones torture, so she's unfit to be there.
I await the usual slings and arrows from idiots who think that torture somehow 'works'.

I'd guarantee we have saved more lives by torturing known terrorists and killers than giving them hugs!

Aaaaand we have the usual idiocy!
I'm not saying 'hug a terrorist'. I'm saying that torture doesn't bloody work. It's never worked. But then at least you get a point for calling it 'torture' instead of the weasel-words of 'enhanced interrogation'. It's torture. It does not work, because people will confess to anything, even being Mickey Mouse, to get it to stop. Intelligence professionals don't torture. It's unreliable and does not lead to actionable, reliable, information.
Life is not an episode of '24'.

It looks like the USA finally has a President who does not let gender, race or sexuality stand in people's way. Every citizen has an equal opportunity, as it should be.
Congratulations to Gina Haspel and also to the President.

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg
I don't give a flying flip what race, sex or sexual preference the head of the CIA is, but if they can't give a clear answer to the question of if torture is immoral, they deserve to be thrown in the Potomac with weights around their ankles.
She condones torture, so she's unfit to be there.
I await the usual slings and arrows from idiots who think that torture somehow 'works'.

Terrorists are sub-human so being humane is rather moot.
Torture of terrorists should be celebrated.

originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg
I don't give a flying flip what race, sex or sexual preference the head of the CIA is, but if they can't give a clear answer to the question of if torture is immoral, they deserve to be thrown in the Potomac with weights around their ankles.
She condones torture, so she's unfit to be there.
I await the usual slings and arrows from idiots who think that torture somehow 'works'.

I'd guarantee we have saved more lives by torturing known terrorists and killers than giving them hugs!

And I’d guarantee you’re wrong. Very little usable intel is gained from torturing someone. They either say anything they think the interrogators want to hear or give up useless out of date intel to give the illusion of cooperation. And no matter what anyone says, the only people who think waterboarding isn’t torture are those that haven’t experienced it first hand.

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

I await the usual slings and arrows from idiots who think that torture somehow 'works'.

I await the usual slings and arrows from idiots who think waterboarding is torture.

a reply to: schuyler

Have you ever experienced it? It’s not an afternoon at 6 Flags by any measure.

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg
I don't give a flying flip what race, sex or sexual preference the head of the CIA is, but if they can't give a clear answer to the question of if torture is immoral, they deserve to be thrown in the Potomac with weights around their ankles.
She condones torture, so she's unfit to be there.
I await the usual slings and arrows from idiots who think that torture somehow 'works'.

Terrorists are sub-human so being humane is rather moot.
Torture of terrorists should be celebrated.

I'm reposting this as an example of the utmost idiocy.
Anyone who thinks that torture should be celebrated in any way, shape or form is either a troll or does not understand the concept behind the word.

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg
I don't give a flying flip what race, sex or sexual preference the head of the CIA is, but if they can't give a clear answer to the question of if torture is immoral, they deserve to be thrown in the Potomac with weights around their ankles.
She condones torture, so she's unfit to be there.
I await the usual slings and arrows from idiots who think that torture somehow 'works'.

Terrorists are sub-human so being humane is rather moot.
Torture of terrorists should be celebrated.

I'm reposting this as an example of the utmost idiocy.
Anyone who thinks that torture should be celebrated in any way, shape or form is either a troll or does not understand the concept behind the word.

I couldn't care less if sub-humans are tortured, and yes it's cause for a massive celebration if that torture leads to saved lives of actual humans. Obviously.

originally posted by: schuyler

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

I await the usual slings and arrows from idiots who think that torture somehow 'works'.

I await the usual slings and arrows from idiots who think waterboarding is torture.

Really? Try it and then get back to us all.

a reply to: carewemust

Personally I don’t think it happened I believe that it was just used as a stunt so that it could help get his reelection and that’s just my view. You would think that if it was really Osama that was killed there would be tons of video and photographic evidence that would be championed around for the rest of America to see, especially for the history books.

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg
I don't give a flying flip what race, sex or sexual preference the head of the CIA is, but if they can't give a clear answer to the question of if torture is immoral, they deserve to be thrown in the Potomac with weights around their ankles.
She condones torture, so she's unfit to be there.
I await the usual slings and arrows from idiots who think that torture somehow 'works'.

Terrorists are sub-human so being humane is rather moot.
Torture of terrorists should be celebrated.

I'm reposting this as an example of the utmost idiocy.
Anyone who thinks that torture should be celebrated in any way, shape or form is either a troll or does not understand the concept behind the word.

I couldn't care less if sub-humans are tortured, and yes it's cause for a massive celebration if that torture leads to saved lives of actual humans. Obviously.

Let's break down this fascinatingly insane and incoherent post. First, you are not qualified to define the definition of what counts as 'sub-human'. No-one is. One man's 'terrorists' is another man's 'freedom fighters', so you need to be far more precise in your terminology.
Second, anyone who thinks that that 'sub-humans' even exist needs a lesson in basic biology. And then morals. And then IQ.
Thirdly, you seem to think that torture - thanks for calling it what it is by the way! - leads to meaningful, actionable, intelligence. It does not. Therefore it's insane to praise it.

originally posted by: peter vlar
a reply to: schuyler

Have you ever experienced it? It’s not an afternoon at 6 Flags by any measure.

But it doesn't kill you, hurt you, or permanently damage you in any way. I would rather be waterboarded than ride on a six flags roller coaster. That's torture to me.

originally posted by: schuyler

originally posted by: peter vlar
a reply to: schuyler

Have you ever experienced it? It’s not an afternoon at 6 Flags by any measure.

But it doesn't kill you, hurt you, or permanently damage you in any way. I would rather be waterboarded than ride on a six flags roller coaster. That's torture to me.

So mental damage doesn't count?
(Facepalm)

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: schuyler

originally posted by: peter vlar
a reply to: schuyler

Have you ever experienced it? It’s not an afternoon at 6 Flags by any measure.

But it doesn't kill you, hurt you, or permanently damage you in any way. I would rather be waterboarded than ride on a six flags roller coaster. That's torture to me.

So mental damage doesn't count?
(Facepalm)

Could we please get back on topic?

This isn't the MudPit.

originally posted by: Metallicus

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: schuyler

originally posted by: peter vlar
a reply to: schuyler

Have you ever experienced it? It’s not an afternoon at 6 Flags by any measure.

But it doesn't kill you, hurt you, or permanently damage you in any way. I would rather be waterboarded than ride on a six flags roller coaster. That's torture to me.

So mental damage doesn't count?
(Facepalm)

Could we please get back on topic?

This isn't the MudPit.

This is the correct topic. She does not think that torture is immoral. She is not fit for the position.

This is NOT the Mud Pit!!!

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a reply to: crtrvt

LOL - the CIA are the nest of the warpigs - that festering slop has caused more domestic and international mayhem than you've had hot meals, but all of a sudden, Haspel is a torturous manwoman unlike anything yanks have ever seen????

#in spare me the drama - you could substitute her in that cartoon with about 10000 other politicians and warpigs who've signed off or condoned torture methods since the agencies inception.

originally posted by: carewemust


Hillary is traveling and telling the world that women need to be given fair consideration, when it comes to promotions. But Not a peep out of this evil woman about Gina Haspel as the first female CIA Director.

Once Gina gets her on a water board she will talk....trust me...