Lady of All Nations: “They will first have to perish by that flood, and only then ...

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: one4all

Noah's flood didn't happen. Well, it didn't cover the world. It was more a localized flood, but the story written in the Bible is false. There is no way he put two of every animal in the world on that ark. Plus the dimensions listed for the ark make it impossible to float.

A Global flood that impacted every Continent on Earth independently ...BUT STILL ACCURATELY .... on a GLOBAL LEVEL ...... happened and a guy named Noah survived in a boat with other people and with animals.....only an idiot would disbelieve this and only an idiot would believe Noah was the ONLY man who built a boat to try to survive.....there is clear and unavoidable evidence of multiple points on the earth where humanity regained a toehold that turned into our species survival.....genetic patterning proves these were ALL bar none...high altitude spots.....because all of them were survivors of this global flood....now to set the record straight on how you are parsing a GLOBAL FLOOD....what we are really discussing when we say GLOBAL FLOOD is a SET OF GLOBAL CONTINENTAL DISPLACEMENT WAVES which impact EVERY CONTINENT TO DIFFERING DEGREES.....hence the flooding is somewhat localised on a Continental basis yet still GLOBAL IN SCOPE.

Lets get really real here....of course Noah took 2 animals of every type he needed to survive post-flood.....if I had 50 million bucks I would be building a Ark right now and filling it with all of the animals I would need to survive like Horses cow duck chickens rabbits honey bees flys ants geese goats....and on and on and on......truth be told if you view all major doctrines as being related but separately evolved versions of ONE TRUE HUMANITARIAN HISTORY that included NO CONTENT REFERENCING DIETIES OR GODS OR ANYTHING NON-TANGIBLE then you will be on track....

The dimensions of the Ark are pristine...the Ark has been modeled and proven to be absolutely perfect for its job....surviving a Continental Displacement Wave....even where it was built was a strategic decision fitting this template.

North Korea will close nuclear test site in May, South says

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We are moving fast towards some kind of peace settlement, second after the end of the Cold War. Seems no one wants nuclear war on any side. By December 2018 we may have Nobel Peace Prize divided between Trump, Kim, Moon, and Xi.

How long will last that "Peace"?

May be until the celestial event of some kind that cannot be averted by negotiations?

Robotization moves at fast pace too.

And let me say, the Catholic websites are totally IRRELEVANT. So much energy spent for ...other things (I don't want to offend anyone).

originally posted by: 2012newstart
North Korea will close nuclear test site in May, South says

edition.cnn.com...

Crowd chants 'Nobel!' mid-North Korea talks edition.cnn.com...

We are moving fast towards some kind of peace settlement, second after the end of the Cold War. Seems no one wants nuclear war on any side. By December 2018 we may have Nobel Peace Prize divided between Trump, Kim, Moon, and Xi.

How long will last that "Peace"?

May be until the celestial event of some kind that cannot be averted by negotiations?

Robotization moves at fast pace too.

And let me say, the Catholic websites are totally IRRELEVANT. So much energy spent for ...other things (I don't want to offend anyone).

You are a smart COOKIE.......this is exactly what my inner eye sees.......the Donald let little kim know what was coming down the pipe and likely let him know he would be needing a lot of help in the near future JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE.....and also likely that there was an informal agreed upon global moratorium on nuclear war due to the threat of an incoming near ELE event.....this is not the time to be wasting human lives...we will need every single of the 6+ billion lottery tickets we have to make it through the storm.

originally posted by: one4all
A Global flood that impacted every Continent on Earth independently ...BUT STILL ACCURATELY .... on a GLOBAL LEVEL ...... happened and a guy named Noah survived in a boat with other people and with animals.....only an idiot would disbelieve this and only an idiot would believe Noah was the ONLY man who built a boat to try to survive.....there is clear and unavoidable evidence of multiple points on the earth where humanity regained a toehold that turned into our species survival.....genetic patterning proves these were ALL bar none...high altitude spots.....because all of them were survivors of this global flood....now to set the record straight on how you are parsing a GLOBAL FLOOD....what we are really discussing when we say GLOBAL FLOOD is a SET OF GLOBAL CONTINENTAL DISPLACEMENT WAVES which impact EVERY CONTINENT TO DIFFERING DEGREES.....hence the flooding is somewhat localised on a Continental basis yet still GLOBAL IN SCOPE.

Nope. Historic floods have covered most of the world, but there has NEVER been a sustained flood that covered the world. It's impossible and historic dirt samples bare this out. What is "idiotic" is using caps lock and calling someone an idiot because he doesn't believe your fairy tale. How about cooling your rage and actually proving your point instead of yelling and misusing ellipses like that makes you sound anything but a crazy ranting on a street corner.

Also, the three or so times humanity was brought close to the brink happened WAAAAAAAAY before recorded history, and none of them were due to flooding. Furthermore, humanity was never reduced to the size of one extended family like is written about in the Bible.
Close Calls: Three Times When Humanity Barely Escaped Extinction

Lets get really real here....of course Noah took 2 animals of every type he needed to survive post-flood.....if I had 50 million bucks I would be building a Ark right now and filling it with all of the animals I would need to survive like Horses cow duck chickens rabbits honey bees flys ants geese goats....and on and on and on......truth be told if you view all major doctrines as being related but separately evolved versions of ONE TRUE HUMANITARIAN HISTORY that included NO CONTENT REFERENCING DIETIES OR GODS OR ANYTHING NON-TANGIBLE then you will be on track....

Really real? Lol. That's a joke. How did he get the animals off of Australia without a boat? You know since he was still building it and all? Oh and then AFTER he landed, why did he put all the Australia exclusive animals back on Australia? And how did he do that? What about the Americas? How did he get the animals from there (and back again)?

But anyways. If you reduce a species to 2 then it will inevitably go extinct anyways due to inbreeding. There is this concept in biology called minimum viable population that basically says that any given species has a lower limit of the animal on the planet that can live in the wild so it doesn't succumb to inbreeding defects. This number can be reduced with human help, but there is no possible way we could save a species that has been reduced to a population of 2. Oh yeah, there isn't enough water to cover the planet and even if there was, the weight of all that water would have crushed everything on ground level. Even the fish in the seas would have died off.

BTW, how did Noah keep carnivores from eating the other animals? What did he feed them? How about giant animals like elephants? Do you know how much food they require on a daily basis? Where did he keep all these supplies?

The idea of all historic myths across the ancient civilizations being related is pure bunk. Stop believing everything written about by the ancients is true. There has to be physical evidence backing this up. It is VERY likely that a larger than normal flood happened in the Mesopotamia region that more then a few ancient civilizations experienced (and Noah is very likely just a rewrite of the Gilgamesh story from Sumeria), but there is no way that the WHOLE world was included in this event.

The dimensions of the Ark are pristine...the Ark has been modeled and proven to be absolutely perfect for its job....surviving a Continental Displacement Wave....even where it was built was a strategic decision fitting this template.

Oh has it? Go ahead and prove that. There is literally no way that the boat would have remained on the sea and not have fallen apart. Expert shipwrights can't even build seaworthy ships of that size without modern things such as metals. Noah only had wood and VERY primitive shipbuilding methods available to him.

Also, what the hell is a "continental displacement wave"? Continents don't get shifted around due to water... They are shifted around due to plate tectonics, and that takes millions and billions of years.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: one4all
A Global flood that impacted every Continent on Earth independently ...BUT STILL ACCURATELY .... on a GLOBAL LEVEL ...... happened and a guy named Noah survived in a boat with other people and with animals.....only an idiot would disbelieve this and only an idiot would believe Noah was the ONLY man who built a boat to try to survive.....there is clear and unavoidable evidence of multiple points on the earth where humanity regained a toehold that turned into our species survival.....genetic patterning proves these were ALL bar none...high altitude spots.....because all of them were survivors of this global flood....now to set the record straight on how you are parsing a GLOBAL FLOOD....what we are really discussing when we say GLOBAL FLOOD is a SET OF GLOBAL CONTINENTAL DISPLACEMENT WAVES which impact EVERY CONTINENT TO DIFFERING DEGREES.....hence the flooding is somewhat localised on a Continental basis yet still GLOBAL IN SCOPE.

Nope. Historic floods have covered most of the world, but there has NEVER been a sustained flood that covered the world. It's impossible and historic dirt samples bare this out. What is "idiotic" is using caps lock and calling someone an idiot because he doesn't believe your fairy tale. How about cooling your rage and actually proving your point instead of yelling and misusing ellipses like that makes you sound anything but a crazy ranting on a street corner.

Also, the three or so times humanity was brought close to the brink happened WAAAAAAAAY before recorded history, and none of them were due to flooding. Furthermore, humanity was never reduced to the size of one extended family like is written about in the Bible.
Close Calls: Three Times When Humanity Barely Escaped Extinction

Lets get really real here....of course Noah took 2 animals of every type he needed to survive post-flood.....if I had 50 million bucks I would be building a Ark right now and filling it with all of the animals I would need to survive like Horses cow duck chickens rabbits honey bees flys ants geese goats....and on and on and on......truth be told if you view all major doctrines as being related but separately evolved versions of ONE TRUE HUMANITARIAN HISTORY that included NO CONTENT REFERENCING DIETIES OR GODS OR ANYTHING NON-TANGIBLE then you will be on track....

Really real? Lol. That's a joke. How did he get the animals off of Australia without a boat? You know since he was still building it and all? Oh and then AFTER he landed, why did he put all the Australia exclusive animals back on Australia? And how did he do that? What about the Americas? How did he get the animals from there (and back again)?

But anyways. If you reduce a species to 2 then it will inevitably go extinct anyways due to inbreeding. There is this concept in biology called minimum viable population that basically says that any given species has a lower limit of the animal on the planet that can live in the wild so it doesn't succumb to inbreeding defects. This number can be reduced with human help, but there is no possible way we could save a species that has been reduced to a population of 2. Oh yeah, there isn't enough water to cover the planet and even if there was, the weight of all that water would have crushed everything on ground level. Even the fish in the seas would have died off.

BTW, how did Noah keep carnivores from eating the other animals? What did he feed them? How about giant animals like elephants? Do you know how much food they require on a daily basis? Where did he keep all these supplies?

The idea of all historic myths across the ancient civilizations being related is pure bunk. Stop believing everything written about by the ancients is true. There has to be physical evidence backing this up. It is VERY likely that a larger than normal flood happened in the Mesopotamia region that more then a few ancient civilizations experienced (and Noah is very likely just a rewrite of the Gilgamesh story from Sumeria), but there is no way that the WHOLE world was included in this event.

The dimensions of the Ark are pristine...the Ark has been modeled and proven to be absolutely perfect for its job....surviving a Continental Displacement Wave....even where it was built was a strategic decision fitting this template.

Oh has it? Go ahead and prove that. There is literally no way that the boat would have remained on the sea and not have fallen apart. Expert shipwrights can't even build seaworthy ships of that size without modern things such as metals. Noah only had wood and VERY primitive shipbuilding methods available to him.

Also, what the hell is a "continental displacement wave"? Continents don't get shifted around due to water... They are shifted around due to plate tectonics, and that takes millions and billions of years.

The flood was GLOBAL in that ALL Continents were displaced and in this process proxy GLOBAL Continental Displacement Waves were forced up onto and over ALL Continents in a motion best described as sloshing due to the movement then stoppage of the Continents which creates this type of action.....not Tsunammis ....Continental Displacement Waves.

Historic dirt samples....lol.

All near ELE events are recorded upon the Earths surface and subsurface geology.Timelines can be bickered about and dating techniques can be bandied about...however the evidence remains.

Noah was basically keeping the animals he needed to provide food and resources to him and his people......and yes 2 of everything to make sure he could breed more....NOT 2 OF EVERYTHING ON THE PLANET....lol....the rest of the Earths creatures were swirled around in the waters willy-nilly and there were survivors all over the place...many of them displaced but alive....many to die but many to survive and re-establish themselves.Noah was worried about his larder....same reason we have the Svalbard SeedBank.

The water doesnt cover the planet.....lol...ALL OF the Continents DISPLACE and are DIPPED UNDER the waters....lol...put away your measuring cup.

Most of Noahs animals were not carnivores...they were domesticated resource animals....you are sticking to the bible 2-of-everything-on-Earht fairy tale story as told according to the bastardised diety inclusive versions we see today not the original HISTORY BOOK.

Noahs Ark was only one of many boats built as Humanity tried to survive as a species......the ship was built to survive a Continental Displacement Wave...SPECIFICLLY THIS EXACT TYPE OF WAVE...and it was built INSITU with prior knowledge of from which direction the Continental Displacement Wave would be approaching....this guy in the link is a smart cookie.tsunamiball.com...


A Global Continental Displacement Wave is what is produced when the Earth experiences Global Continental Displacement .... a Continent DISPLACES and is dragged forward tilted drug under and dipped into the Ocean only to be brought back up and stabilised...causing a massive wave to creep up and over the Landmass.These movements are catalysed by an off-planet source passing by and happen in hours not days weeks years or Epochs.....hours.

originally posted by: one4all

The flood was GLOBAL in that ALL Continents were displaced and in this process proxy GLOBAL Continental Displacement Waves were forced up onto and over ALL Continents in a motion best described as sloshing due to the movement then stoppage of the Continents which creates this type of action.....not Tsunammis ....Continental Displacement Waves.

There is literally no such thing as a "global displacement wave". You made that term up.

Historic dirt samples....lol.

Yes. Dirt samples tell us a lot about ancient geologic motions. It's better than making up random terms and pretending they are real like "Global displacement waves".

All near ELE events are recorded upon the Earths surface and subsurface geology.Timelines can be bickered about and dating techniques can be bandied about...however the evidence remains.

Noah was basically keeping the animals he needed to provide food and resources to him and his people......and yes 2 of everything to make sure he could breed more....NOT 2 OF EVERYTHING ON THE PLANET....lol....the rest of the Earths creatures were swirled around in the waters willy-nilly and there were survivors all over the place...many of them displaced but alive....many to die but many to survive and re-establish themselves.Noah was worried about his larder....same reason we have the Svalbard SeedBank.

Lol. That is literally impossible considering the length of the flood mentioned in the bible. You are reaching VERY far with your attempt to rationalize an embellished story in the Bible. Though at least you admit that there was no way Noah put 2 of every animal in the world on a ship. At least you aren't THAT crazy.

The water doesnt cover the planet.....lol...ALL OF the Continents DISPLACE and are DIPPED UNDER the waters....lol...put away your measuring cup.

Whatever that means...

Noahs Ark was only one of many boats built as Humanity tried to survive as a species......the ship was built to survive a Continental Displacement Wave...SPECIFICLLY THIS EXACT TYPE OF WAVE...and it was built INSITU with prior knowledge of from which direction the Continental Displacement Wave would be approaching....this guy in the link is a smart cookie.tsunamiball.com...

Seriously. Show me where it has been proven that a wave can displace continents. I don't think you understand how plate tectonics works if you think that is possible. Continents don't float on water for one.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: one4all

The flood was GLOBAL in that ALL Continents were displaced and in this process proxy GLOBAL Continental Displacement Waves were forced up onto and over ALL Continents in a motion best described as sloshing due to the movement then stoppage of the Continents which creates this type of action.....not Tsunammis ....Continental Displacement Waves.

There is literally no such thing as a "global displacement wave". You made that term up.

Historic dirt samples....lol.

Yes. Dirt samples tell us a lot about ancient geologic motions. It's better than making up random terms and pretending they are real like "Global displacement waves".

All near ELE events are recorded upon the Earths surface and subsurface geology.Timelines can be bickered about and dating techniques can be bandied about...however the evidence remains.

Noah was basically keeping the animals he needed to provide food and resources to him and his people......and yes 2 of everything to make sure he could breed more....NOT 2 OF EVERYTHING ON THE PLANET....lol....the rest of the Earths creatures were swirled around in the waters willy-nilly and there were survivors all over the place...many of them displaced but alive....many to die but many to survive and re-establish themselves.Noah was worried about his larder....same reason we have the Svalbard SeedBank.

Lol. That is literally impossible considering the length of the flood mentioned in the bible. You are reaching VERY far with your attempt to rationalize an embellished story in the Bible. Though at least you admit that there was no way Noah put 2 of every animal in the world on a ship. At least you aren't THAT crazy.

The water doesnt cover the planet.....lol...ALL OF the Continents DISPLACE and are DIPPED UNDER the waters....lol...put away your measuring cup.

Whatever that means...

Noahs Ark was only one of many boats built as Humanity tried to survive as a species......the ship was built to survive a Continental Displacement Wave...SPECIFICLLY THIS EXACT TYPE OF WAVE...and it was built INSITU with prior knowledge of from which direction the Continental Displacement Wave would be approaching....this guy in the link is a smart cookie.tsunamiball.com...

Seriously. Show me where it has been proven that a wave can displace continents. I don't think you understand how plate tectonics works if you think that is possible. Continents don't float on water for one.

Well of course I made that name up.....ATS is where history will show this theory began ......run with it ...why not....unless you can theorise something more fitting.

a reply to: one4all

Krazysh0t doesn't want to believe, or rather, hopes that it isn't true. Nib I think is by the sun at the present time, which is why the sun feels hotter. Gravity waves focusing light, and all that rut. The rainbow clouds in the sky are from the grease in Nib's iron dust shroud. I have seen a few news reports of red rain and dust in places that it shouldn't be in.

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When double shines the single sun
7 weeks until it's done

when 3 days of darkness you see
15 days until pole shift asymmetry

6 days of sunrise west
keep moving above 300 ft to stay abreast

5.9 days of rotation stop
stay close; rush to cover, from firestorms up top

1 hour of quakes, rain, and flood
most water turns to blood

2 years of polar melt
700 ft is the new ocean belt

3,657 years it comes, no one believes
Very few believe
All will believe, when the time comes

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Look to the sky, take picts of the sun a dawn and dusk, around bodies of water. You should be able to verify reflections and discount sun dogs. Beyond that, convincing others who don't wish to believe, won't. Signs of the times and all of that... Element of doubt.

a reply to: Skada

Krazysh0t doesn't want to believe, or rather, hopes that it isn't true. Nib I think is by the sun at the present time, which is why the sun feels hotter. Gravity waves focusing light, and all that rut. The rainbow clouds in the sky are from the grease in Nib's iron dust shroud. I have seen a few news reports of red rain and dust in places that it shouldn't be in.

What? Are you high? If Nibiru were real and that close to the Earth, we'd not only see it but its gravity alone would be screwing with all the inner planets' orbits and tidal forces. It's not about not wanting to believe, it's literally about your claims being physically impossible given the effects we are experiencing.

originally posted by: Skada
a reply to: one4all

Krazysh0t doesn't want to believe, or rather, hopes that it isn't true. Nib I think is by the sun at the present time, which is why the sun feels hotter. Gravity waves focusing light, and all that rut. The rainbow clouds in the sky are from the grease in Nib's iron dust shroud. I have seen a few news reports of red rain and dust in places that it shouldn't be in.

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When double shines the single sun
7 weeks until it's done

when 3 days of darkness you see
15 days until pole shift asymmetry

6 days of sunrise west
keep moving above 300 ft to stay abreast

5.9 days of rotation stop
stay close; rush to cover, from firestorms up top

1 hour of quakes, rain, and flood
most water turns to blood

2 years of polar melt
700 ft is the new ocean belt

3,657 years it comes, no one believes
Very few believe
All will believe, when the time comes

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Look to the sky, take picts of the sun a dawn and dusk, around bodies of water. You should be able to verify reflections and discount sun dogs. Beyond that, convincing others who don't wish to believe, won't. Signs of the times and all of that... Element of doubt.

Thank you for the verse , I value it and shall pass it forward.

a reply to: one4all

I already told you what is more fitting. The Global flood wasn't and was merely just a larger than normal regular flood in the Mesopotamia region that several different cultures witnessed and wrote about. These cultures then spread their story through trade and were embellished to extreme lengths through retellings kind of like a historic version of the telephone game.

Continents move through the process of plate tectonics and do so over millions of years. By the time that this supposed flood happened, the continents were in very similar positions around the world as they are today since the 5000 or so years between then and now is not enough for them to move far.

Occam's Razor. The idea with the least number of assumptions is likely true. My idea is backed by science and archeology. Yours you literally made up on the spot which makes it an assumption.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: one4all

I already told you what is more fitting. The Global flood wasn't and was merely just a larger than normal regular flood in the Mesopotamia region that several different cultures witnessed and wrote about. These cultures then spread their story through trade and were embellished to extreme lengths through retellings kind of like a historic version of the telephone game.

Continents move through the process of plate tectonics and do so over millions of years. By the time that this supposed flood happened, the continents were in very similar positions around the world as they are today since the 5000 or so years between then and now is not enough for them to move far.

Occam's Razor. The idea with the least number of assumptions is likely true. My idea is backed by science and archeology. Yours you literally made up on the spot which makes it an assumption.

You are entitled to your perspective.www.bing.com...

a reply to: one4all

As are you, but laughing at me to avoid arguing against my analysis doesn't redeem your craziness. It just makes you look stubborn and closed minded.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Well, have you considered the following. A massive wide ranged planetary mass with a long orbit, and a huge magnetic presence passing by every few thousand years that grabs the thinnest part of our planet (mid atlantic rift) during passage which stops the upper crust rotating, while the interior molten core keeps moving causing seismic activity. After this massive magnetic presence gets away from us it tilts the planet to new orientations. Think of the animals and plant matter under permafrost with still digesting food in their digestive tract. Certainly those animals where caught in a cold climate too quickly and froze within a matter of days if not hours. How could that have happened? Could the massive magnetic presence caused the planet to spin to a new orientation where once there was a rain forest, now a new northern or southern polar climate?

I won't waste my time convincing you. Research or not, look around or not, see the sun rise at odd angles from one day to the next or not. Your life is your own.

a reply to: Skada

Yes I have. Gravity AGAIN ruins your idea. A body like that would disrupt orbits of the outer planets as well as the asteroid belt even if the planet itself never makes it into the inner solar system. Scientists think there may be a massive planet out past Pluto, but it is hidden from our view and never comes past the orbits of even Pluto. The only reason they think this is because they see gravitational disruptions of objects out there that suggest there is a massive body there (this is also how scientists originally theorized about the existence of Neptune before they were able to see it with a telescope).

Think of the animals and plant matter under permafrost with still digesting food in their digestive tract. Certainly those animals where caught in a cold climate too quickly and froze within a matter of days if not hours. How could that have happened?

Ask a climate scientist. They study stuff like that all the time.

Could the massive magnetic presence caused the planet to spin to a new orientation where once there was a rain forest, now a new northern or southern polar climate?

No.

I won't waste my time convincing you. Research or not, look around or not, see the sun rise at odd angles from one day to the next or not. Your life is your own.

But apparently things like the theory of Gravity just aren't worth considering to you.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

It is a sign of an intelligent mind to be able to entertain an idea without accepting it.

There are things that are being discovered by science all the time that challenges and changes our notions. One being the "theory of gravity". Or that our planets are on a flat plane orbiting the milky way.



If this video is even remotely correct about our procession around the galactic plane, perhaps that vortex spin that our sun does bobbing up and down is also the result of our system being a binary star system, in which two suns are spinning about, and perhaps just one of those planetary objects moves between the two stars every few thousand years that causes repeated planetary devastation.

I consider gravity. I just look into it not just on a planetary scale; and not just a solar system scale.

Yes, I science bro.

originally posted by: Skada
a reply to: Krazysh0t

It is a sign of an intelligent mind to be able to entertain an idea without accepting it.

Yeah. So? I can not only entertain it, I can put it to the test through evidence analysis to see if it is credible or not. Just because you have an idea doesn't mean it should be accepted as possible. It still has to align with reality and physics.

There are things that are being discovered by science all the time that challenges and changes our notions. One being the "theory of gravity". Or that our planets are on a flat plane orbiting the milky way.

That doesn't give you carte blanche to suggest ideas that have no evidence supporting them. When science changes and adapts to new ideas it is because new evidence has surfaced that pulls it in that direction. But here's a FUN FACT. Even when it does that, it STILL have to align with all the evidence that came before it.

If this video is even remotely correct about our procession around the galactic plane, perhaps that vortex spin that our sun does bobbing up and down is also the result of our system being a binary star system, in which two suns are spinning about, and perhaps just one of those planetary objects moves between the two stars every few thousand years that causes repeated planetary devastation.

Again. Unlikely considering gravitational motions that astronomers have observed. If a second sun was out there, first we'd see it. Second, a few thousand years is an infinitesimal amount of time on universal scales. There is literally zero way our solar system would have survived intact for the billions of years it has if what you said is true and every few thousand years a secondary star comes hurtling through the solar system to orbit around the sun and go back out again.

I consider gravity. I just look into it not just on a planetary scale; and not just a solar system scale.

Yes, I science bro.

No. You don't. You are cherry picking science to suit your needs and discarding other science that doesn't fit your idea.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: one4all

As are you, but laughing at me to avoid arguing against my analysis doesn't redeem your craziness. It just makes you look stubborn and closed minded.

It is impossible not to laugh with you...which is what I am doing.....not at you which would be disrespectful of your right to choose ignorance or enlightenment for yourself.....from my perspective you choose willfull ignorance.

You are aware I am sure that the more you push the more the truth will push you back.

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All of your re-directs have been dealt with by others...follow the linkeys.

I like that you keep fighting the noose of truth...it stimulates the topic.

a reply to: one4all

Lol. "Willful ignorance". Because I don't want to subscribe to your far fetched ideas and use science to discount them I'm choosing willful ignorance. You should go study some actual astronomy instead of just reading/watching random crap on the internet. It has ACTUAL answers backed up with evidence on how the solar system works. The idea of an object coming from outside the outer solar system and coming into the inner solar system to disrupt the planet's poles is ridiculous and has no supporting evidence. There is literally no reason to believe it. It isn't willful ignorance. It is just discarding insane ideas.

Would you call me choosing not to believe in Flat Earth Theory "willful ignorance" too?

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: Skada
a reply to: Krazysh0t

It is a sign of an intelligent mind to be able to entertain an idea without accepting it.

Yeah. So? I can not only entertain it, I can put it to the test through evidence analysis to see if it is credible or not. Just because you have an idea doesn't mean it should be accepted as possible. It still has to align with reality and physics.

There are things that are being discovered by science all the time that challenges and changes our notions. One being the "theory of gravity". Or that our planets are on a flat plane orbiting the milky way.

That doesn't give you carte blanche to suggest ideas that have no evidence supporting them. When science changes and adapts to new ideas it is because new evidence has surfaced that pulls it in that direction. But here's a FUN FACT. Even when it does that, it STILL have to align with all the evidence that came before it.

If this video is even remotely correct about our procession around the galactic plane, perhaps that vortex spin that our sun does bobbing up and down is also the result of our system being a binary star system, in which two suns are spinning about, and perhaps just one of those planetary objects moves between the two stars every few thousand years that causes repeated planetary devastation.

Again. Unlikely considering gravitational motions that astronomers have observed. If a second sun was out there, first we'd see it. Second, a few thousand years is an infinitesimal amount of time on universal scales. There is literally zero way our solar system would have survived intact for the billions of years it has if what you said is true and every few thousand years a secondary star comes hurtling through the solar system to orbit around the sun and go back out again.

I consider gravity. I just look into it not just on a planetary scale; and not just a solar system scale.

Yes, I science bro.

No. You don't. You are cherry picking science to suit your needs and discarding other science that doesn't fit your idea.

You cannot put it through a test based upon evidence analysis unless everyone agrees upon the definitions of acceptable EVIDENCE AND PROCESSES SUCH AS REALITY AND PHYSICS.....lol...here we go again....

You consistently refer to science which we must defer to our first comment....you are redundant in your reliance on peer approved published writings as being the only representative writing we should consider to be science based...your definition of evidence is intertwined with this ..publisher controlled peer approved publication dynamic....and the People now know how his littlegame works...and we don't buy it anymore....lol....but its your Band and you can beat upon that olde drum for as long as you wish.

This is fun though......what do you have to say to this.....LMAO....Oil is only a few thousand years old not millions and rock can be produced in years or decades....not millennia....lol...www.newscientist.com... cherry picking here ....lol...just some science.......www.youtube.com... about this fellas perspective....lol...how do you parse this one....yes this is sure fun.