Lady of All Nations: “They will first have to perish by that flood, and only then ...

originally posted by: Raggedyman


No it's not wishful thinking, it's faith in Christ

Why is it that faith can't stop the wars from happening? We need faith to save us from ourselves, but never to outright stop the bad stuff from happening. It's just an endaround to shirking responsibility for the war that we started.

It must be obvious that the next war won't be something the earth will ever be recoverable from

How is that obvious? The US has been fighting several wars since 2001 and 2003. The earth will recover from both of them.

You are welcome to believe whatever you want, I choose wishful thinking

I'd rather not wish and instead be proactive about my actions.

a reply to: 2012newstart

The flood is a metaphor for Islam, which is currently flooding into Europe and will eventually destroy her.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Faith doesn't stop humans from making choices, neither does God, hence free will
I can't change other people, I can take responsibility for myself and help others if they want help, not much more
My faith isn't in humanity, people, this world, my faith is that Christ will one day return and make things better

Ok so the next war will be nothing and there is nothing to worry about, if you believe that, great. I don't

And Finaly, you be proactive, you do what you do to fix it all, like what exactly?
Warrior over the Internet, are your words that powerful, really

Arguing faith with me over the Internet, there your proactive actions, give it a rest

originally posted by: Raggedyman
a reply to: Krazysh0t

Faith doesn't stop humans from making choices, neither does God, hence free will
I can't change other people, I can take responsibility for myself and help others if they want help, not much more
My faith isn't in humanity, people, this world, my faith is that Christ will one day return and make things better

But that's just expecting an external force to fix problems that we as humanity need to take responsibility for and fix ourselves.

Ok so the next war will be nothing and there is nothing to worry about, if you believe that, great. I don't

I don't know what the next war will entail, but it isn't a foregone conclusion that the next one will herald the end of the world.

And Finaly, you be proactive, you do what you do to fix it all, like what exactly?
Warrior over the Internet, are your words that powerful, really

Who says I just talk a big game over the internet?

Arguing faith with me over the Internet, there your proactive actions, give it a rest

Believe it or not, I have a life outside of ATS, bro.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: Raggedyman
a reply to: Krazysh0t

Faith doesn't stop humans from making choices, neither does God, hence free will
I can't change other people, I can take responsibility for myself and help others if they want help, not much more
My faith isn't in humanity, people, this world, my faith is that Christ will one day return and make things better

But that's just expecting an external force to fix problems that we as humanity need to take responsibility for and fix ourselves.

Ok so the next war will be nothing and there is nothing to worry about, if you believe that, great. I don't

I don't know what the next war will entail, but it isn't a foregone conclusion that the next one will herald the end of the wor

And Finaly, you be proactive, you do what you do to fix it all, like what exactly?
Warrior over the Internet, are your words that powerful, really

Who says I just talk a big game over the internet?

Arguing faith with me over the Internet, there your proactive actions, give it a rest

Believe it or not, I have a life outside of ATS, bro.

Well let's hope you have a life beyond here
So then please KS go fix the problems, I certainly can't, none of them


You might haveva life but you can't change a thing
You have nothing, you can do nothing, you offer nothing but empty words

Really,,what pro active actions do you have, sign a few petitions, drink fair trade coffee

originally posted by: jjkenobi
a reply to: 2012newstart

The flood is a metaphor for Islam, which is currently flooding into Europe and will eventually destroy her.

No the flood is a real flood....if you feel more comfortable call them Global Continental Displacement Waves....tis a formality...a flood is a flood.

originally posted by: vinifalou
a reply to: one4all

Where is Nibiru now?

I mean, with all these super-tech-satellites and amateur astronomers, it's obvious someone has already observed a gigantic planet coming towards us, right... ?

The question is NOT where is Nibiru now....the question is what proof do you have that Nibiru has been here BEFORE.....and this proof surrounds us with an unavoidable truth on a global level.


Nibiru and the Continental Drift/Displacement which brings us Global Continental Displacement Waves show up as a REPEATABLE PATTERN.....

a reply to: 2012newstart

..."They will first have to perish by that flood, and only then ...”

the woman (aka: Gaia/Sophia) is speaking of the passage found in Revelation... In the Throne Room John asks the Angel..." how long will the massacre of the faithful continue" (paraphrased)
And the reply is: ...for a little while longer, until the allotted blood/deaths are fulfilled" (paraphrased)


the extraterrestials have always been among us...Angels walk among us & we are unawares
the 'disclosure' will not be a startling event... the disclosure or revealing will be the review of historical interventions which were of an unnatural set of circumstances/beyond chance or logic....i.e: D day, Magna Charta, Resurrection, Roswell...etc.



to expand on what is meant of 'that flood"...spoken of by the woman in the vision....


the continent of Africa is being split on two right now... in the rift valley near Ethiopia bordering on the Red Sea... the split is happening so that a new Sea/Ocean will split Africa into East & West land masses

...the same techtonic plate movement will cause the Arabian peninsula to have volcanos in Mecca and then the great EQ in Jerusalem....
which leads directly to the land mass distrubances in Europe (as the W by NW direction of plate subduction continues from the Africa/Red Sea beginnings Area)

Europe has a double whammy of 'Flood'
One Flood is symbolic/metaphor of the massive migration from 3rd world'ers to Europe
the physical Flood is the topography of the Europe Area of the Eurasian Plate changing & convulsing,
since 'That Flood' sounds singular, be advised that the term 'that flood' encompasses the 'flood' of migrations & the Floods in the landscape of the EU community

instead of nibiru NOW, I'd rather think of a false peace that we have now, to be followed by a surprise war. Not a total war but big enough

originally posted by: Raggedyman
Well let's hope you have a life beyond here
So then please KS go fix the problems, I certainly can't, none of them

At no point am I even arguing that I can fix all the problems, but every little bit helps. Plus having a defeatist attitude about things is just counterproductive.

You might haveva life but you can't change a thing
You have nothing, you can do nothing, you offer nothing but empty words

Everything starts with small steps. Also, no one person is going to change the world. It requires people to work together to do it. Your pessimism just hinders that.

Really,,what pro active actions do you have, sign a few petitions, drink fair trade coffee

I'd say that whatever I've done is already miles ahead of you and your defeatist "let god handle it" attitude.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Yes KS as much as I hate do agree with you every little bit helps but
I ask no permission, I start with myself

But I did try and still failed
Still trying, still failing, hope you do better

And no I don't believe in the " let God handle it" camp
"Do my best" camp

a reply to: Raggedyman
You only fail when you quit. There is no finish line when it comes to bettering the world. You just do your part as much as you can until you die.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

You are like a Jehovah witness, banging on a door to prove yourself
Stop it
You have nothing to offer

a reply to: Raggedyman

LOL! That was weaksauce, bro. I know you know this is a public forum so I can keep talking no matter what you think. It's on you to stop replying.

But at the same time, you sound defensive as hell. I imagine I've hit a bit close to home with my analysis. Though I doubt you'll admit that.

originally posted by: Raggedyman
a reply to: Krazysh0t

You are like a Jehovah witness, banging on a door to prove yourself
Stop it
You have nothing to offer

Welllllll.....those JWs might not be as silly as everyone thinks...sim^ly because their doctrine like that of the LDSers tells you more of the truth than most religons do...in other words both of those ones tell you that Nibiru is coming...thy don't say NIBIRU IS COMING....but they do say Nibiru is coming....and it will be as Noahs flood was.....I mean you really have to keep your mind open but the warning is there.

a reply to: one4all

Noah's flood didn't happen. Well, it didn't cover the world. It was more a localized flood, but the story written in the Bible is false. There is no way he put two of every animal in the world on that ark. Plus the dimensions listed for the ark make it impossible to float.

a reply to: St Udio

you are talking of planetary events that take millions of years. The Biblical Flood is estimated at some 5,000 or so years ago. Let double that number. it is not the slow tectonic plates movements you are talking about, or the event that killed the dinosaurs millions years ago, most probably asteroid in the Mexican gulf.

Anyway, whatever the past might be. Today we have the biggest event after the End of the Cold War. North Korea has dozens probably 50 or more nukes. And is saying no more war on the peninsula.

IMO they will never give up those nukes. This is the last chapter of the False peace talked about in the Scripture and also in contemporary apparitions such as La Salette. it may take 1 or 10 or more years though.

originally posted by: scraedtosleep
I wonder why future visions are always about doom?

You ask a very good question.


The reason why doom is forefront is because the apocalypse is about two things: one, the destruction of the old world, the world of suffering, and the world of evil….And two, the revealing (apocalypse means unveiling) of the hidden original world of felicity we fell from---will come forth again. This world is a corruption of that original world.

Naturally, since we have forgotten the primordial world of paradise we can’t much comment on it from the perspective of this world of the fallen human which is a world of suffering...We all know this world and deep down we all want it to disappear, at least most of us, and be replaced by the better world.

So basically we're talking about the destruction of one world and the appearance of another.
Always keep that in mind when hearing about this phenomenon...

The Apocalypse

As i read more of the Korean meeting, I slowly realise that May be the world enters into a new chapter. False or not, peace. For how long?

From Garabandal we know, the great Warning will stop WW3, and will give some time (up to 1 year until the Miracle, and some time after it) before the Chastisement.

Other apparitions give their schedules and secrets.

And we do not know what the Great Warning will be, it starts with the letter A. We know its consequences on the conscience of humankind. We do not know what causes it. As if two stars collide, is the comparison used by the seer.

Similarly, we do not know what Medjugorje secrets are, or any other secrets. Anguera has 5 secrets. It could happen to be, something that we do not imagine now.

Who could say some months age, that the fearful Kim who tested missiles to reach so many thousands of miles, would decide for peace? Today, it is already a historic fact.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Raggedyman

LOL! That was weaksauce, bro. I know you know this is a public forum so I can keep talking no matter what you think. It's on you to stop replying.

But at the same time, you sound defensive as hell. I imagine I've hit a bit close to home with my analysis. Though I doubt you'll admit that.

LOL, that's all feathers and colour bro...
You can change nothing and saying you can change anything is delusional
Close to home? I am in awe of how highly and important you think yourself

Defeatist, defeated, whatever
As I said, my hope is in Christ returning and restoring the world, not me or anyone else doing it

Defensive, I don't care what you think of me, I am figuring that is clear
You can change nothing but yourself