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originally posted by: SpartanStoic
Falun Gong was all good in the old days before they decided to take on the Chinese government.
I'm all for Falun Dafu/Gong folks practicing their religion or beliefs but I'm afraid it's been changed to a cult like organization. On this point I don't blame the Chinese government for banning it due to elements of the Chinese psyche and culture that make them susceptible to this type of influence.
Before you get your panties in a twist I don't condone what's been done to practitioners in China or Jiang Zi Min. The CCP is evil and Jiang is a evil bastard.
originally posted by: Reverbs
a reply to: LitriumGem
It's a semi interesting take on aliens controlling society to be tech driven instead of having heart..
It's not consistent though. For one just in the bit I read, the gods no longer do anything, so aliens are allowed to possess human bodies, and then also the gods are doing stuff like cleaning up all the other dimensions so aliens run here to hide..
Which one is it?
funny enough reading that was like talking to one of my exes. Oddly familiar for me. She was so out there I started believing in aliens again actually... She was very afraid of them.. Funny again one of the first things I said about things like this to her was "god is dead." Which is why I talked about the god part above..
I'll read some more later if just to pick it apart, or as a fun exercise in visualizing what aliens might be.. I've definitely been through some stuff that I can't make sense of for the life of me, but I'm done discussing it.. Oh gawd now I sound like the dude in the excerpts...
the guy is probably a narcissistic liar.. Many of these in the "spiritual" circles.
The second reason is that since the beginning of this century, aliens have begun to invade the human mind and its ideology and culture.
The ultimate purpose is to replace humans. If cloning human beings succeeds, the aliens can officially replace humans. Why does a corpse lie dead, even though it is the same as a living body? The difference is the soul, which is the life of the body. If people reproduce a human person, the gods in heaven will not give its body a human soul. The aliens will take that opportunity to replace the human soul and by doing so they will enter earth and become earthlings. When such people grow up, they will help replace humans with aliens. They will produce more and more clones. There will no longer be humans reproduced by humans. They will act like humans, but they will introduce legislation to stop human reproduction.
originally posted by: LitriumGem
originally posted by: bobs_uruncle
Qi Gong Masters can detect things that our current scientific instruments cannot. Scientific experiments are also showing this to be true:
www.theepochtimes.com...
That was a solid contradictory statement. Which is true, scientific instruments can or can't detect these alleged things?
Cheers - Dave
Reply: Some scientific instruments can detect certain energies of Qi Gong Masters while others cannot yet detect them.
There are actually two excerpts from Zhuan Falun which talks about this point:
1.
When we mention certain things some people blurt right out, "blind belief." Why do they do that? Their criteria for something being "blind belief" or "quackery" is that it’s whatever science hasn’t grasped, or whatever they haven’t experienced first-hand, or whatever they think can’t possibly exist. That’s their way of thinking. So is that way of thinking correct? Can you just dismiss something as blind belief or quackery just because science hasn’t grasped it yet, or just because science isn’t far enough along to explain it yet? Aren’t these people themselves full of blind belief? And aren’t they caught up in quackery? If everybody thought that way, could science develop?
Could it move forward? Society wouldn’t be able to make progress. The things that our scientific and technological community has invented are all things that people didn’t have at one time. If those things were all thought of as blind belief, then there’d be no point in talking about progress, right? Qigong isn’t quackery. But there are always a lot of people who think it is, since they don’t understand it.
But with the use of scientific instruments people have now detected on the bodies of qigong masters things like infrasonic waves, ultrasonic waves, electromagnetic waves, infrared, ultraviolet, gamma rays, neutrons, atoms, and trace metal elements. Aren’t those all concrete things? They’re matter. Aren’t all things made of matter? Aren’t other space-times made of matter? Could you call them blind belief? Qigong is for cultivating Buddhahood, so of course there are going to be a lot of profound things involved. And we’re going to explain all of them.
2.
What’s "beyond the Five Elements" about? Our ancient Chinese physics and our modern physics both acknowledge that the Chinese theory of Five Elements is correct. Metal, wood, water, fire, and earth—these Five Elements form the myriad things in our universe. This is fact, and that’s why we talk about these Five Elements. When someone says that a person has gone beyond the Five Elements, in today’s language, it means going beyond this material world of ours.
Sounds hard to believe. But let’s think about something. Qigong masters have gong. I’ve been tested, and lots and lots of other qigong masters have been tested this way, too—tested for energy. A lot of the instruments that we have today can detect the material elements in gong, so in other words, if there’s the right instrument, the elements emitted by qigong masters can be detected. Nowadays the instruments can detect things like infrared rays, ultraviolet rays, ultrasonic waves, infrasonic sounds, electricity, magnetism, gamma rays, atoms, and neutrons. Qigong masters all have these forms of matter, and some other matter emitted by qigong masters can’t be detected, since there’s no such instrument. But as long as you have the right instrument these can be detected, and they’ve discovered that the matter emitted by qigong masters is extremely rich.
Under the effect of a special electromagnetic field qigong masters can have strong luminescence, and it’s really beautiful. The higher a person’s potency, the larger the energy field he projects. Ordinary people have one too, but it’s a really weak kind of luminescence. People who do research in high-energy physics think of energy as being things like neutrons and atoms. A lot of qigong masters have been tested. And all the qigong masters who are pretty well-known have been tested, in fact.
I’ve been tested, too, and they found that I emit gamma rays and thermal neutrons 80–170 times greater than the radiation of normal matter. At that point the needle of the testing instrument had hit the limit, and since the needle had hit the maximum point they couldn’t tell exactly how strong it was. Imagine, neutrons that strong—it’s just incredible! How could a person emit neutrons that strong? This proves that we qigong masters do have gong, it proves we do have energy. It’s been verified by the scientific and technological community.
originally posted by: LitriumGem
a reply to: bobs_uruncle
There have been various scientific studies performed on Qi Gong. Here are just a few:
www.theepochtimes.com...
www.chi.us...
www.pureinsight.org...
www.pureinsight.org...
www.pureinsight.org...
citeseerx.ist.psu.edu...
originally posted by: bobs_uruncle
originally posted by: LitriumGem
a reply to: bobs_uruncle
There have been various scientific studies performed on Qi Gong. Here are just a few:
www.theepochtimes.com...
www.chi.us...
www.pureinsight.org...
www.pureinsight.org...
www.pureinsight.org...
citeseerx.ist.psu.edu...
Last time I checked science was based on an experimentally repeatable process with rational and again repeatable emperical data. Trendy sites pontificating on opinions does not produce facts no matter how hard they run their sales pitch. I do agree that the brain is an electrochemical device that can produce a number of watts and from my own work (I owned a 20 channel Grass EEG for more than 15 years and used it on nrc related projects) there are unusual aspects to brain functions not easily or readily understood. Regardless, many of the "statements" in those links seem grandiose, leading and very editorialized. Curiosity is a good thing when applied objectively, but not with a preeminent bias that fits a potential cause to a wanted reason.
Cheers - Dave
originally posted by: SpartanStoic
Falun Gong was all good in the old days before they decided to take on the Chinese government.
I'm all for Falun Dafu/Gong folks practicing their religion or beliefs but I'm afraid it's been changed to a cult like organization. On this point I don't blame the Chinese government for banning it due to elements of the Chinese psyche and culture that make them susceptible to this type of influence.
Before you get your panties in a twist I don't condone what's been done to practitioners in China or Jiang Zi Min. The CCP is evil and Jiang is a evil bastard.
originally posted by: LitriumGem
Hi All,
I have some lecture excerpts that you might be interested in. It's from a Buddha Master from the Falun Dafa school of QiGong. A very high level cultivation technique that is very righteous and powerful:
www.falundafa.org...
I recommend checking this out, especially the book 'Zhuan Falun':
falundafa.org...
Wow what a read, it covers so many things, from the mysteries of the microcosm to the macrocosm, other dimensions, the soul, ancient prehistory, supernatural latent abilities, chi, gong energy and so many other things.
This practice is also being severely persecuted by the Chinese Communist Party with practitioners being sent to concentration camps, tortured, killed and there organs sold on the black market, truly demonic :
en.minghui.org...
www.youtube.com...
In these following lecture excerpts, the founder of Falun Dafa, Mr Li hongzhi spells out the Alien Agenda that is upon this earth and it's implications to humanity as a whole.
The rest of the lectures that have been given around the world can be found here:
www.falundafa.org...
Also Mr Li Hongzhi has been interviewed by Time Asia where he also mentions the alien phenomenon, another fascinating read:
content.time.com...
But in closing, here are the lecture excerpts on the Alien Agenda that is taking place on our planet, I hope you will find them of interest:
(edit, I couldn't post the full excerpts here because of the cutoff feature, this link has the full excerpts: alienabductionhelp.com...)