So Who's Off The Trump Train?

originally posted by: mysterioustranger
a reply to: tribal

Everything he does doesn't affect him, his kids nor grandkids. They family has billions of $$$$$$..and will not be affected by any move, decision, action he takes.

We got a billionaire grandpa making decisions on, for, about the average American... None of which will touch him nor them.

If the end is high... don't pack. It'll be over quick for us...as he and his rich family flies away in their private jet....

Satan, Anti-Christ and False Prophet all in 1....its the beginning of the end

The anti-christ and christ are the same guy...etc.

Sorry to break it to ya, but problem reaction solution been around since fore-ever.

originally posted by: nightbringr

originally posted by: Arnie123

originally posted by: nightbringr

originally posted by: Arnie123
Bunch of sore ass losers crying about a few strikes on a regime gasing its own people.

I WANT PROOF!! BLAH BLAH BLAH

Hello?! You're NOT getting any PROOF. That is the reality of the situation.

War is part of the American culture whether you like it or not. We can debate all you want and dream of a world without war, but once again, reality is a bitch smack of truth.

I don't give NO F#s, I trust my own Government over any others. The paranoia that ATS has on some of you is sooo comical, like you people are DEMANDING evidence? Lmfao.

When the omnibus went through, we saw sad sacks jumping the train, now coordinated strikes agaisnt a regimes gassing its own people and once more, sad sacks jumping the train.

All I know, some of you have been outed and weren't REALLY Trump supporters, oh how it is soooo EASY to simply just jump ship, posers.

I stand firm and remain at my Presidents side.

Add01: Being a Chemical Soldier, I know first hand the devastating effects of Nerves and Blisters. When asking for proof, I can't help but giggle at that. All I know, is if you have it and have used it, there WILL be an American response.

Good little soldier, you have been indoctrinated well. Follow your leader and dont ask questions.

Oh, absolutely, I will. At the very least, I'll know what to do and how to deal with things.

You? Some keyboard warrior who'll curl up in the corner should SHTF, don't deny it, accept it.

Keep telling yourself that.

While i totally support military men and women, usually i hope they have half a brain. I guess we cant win 'em all?

Would be nice to get feedback from actual troops in the area..and others to see what they truly believe.

This is entertaining to see all the people wavering back and forth on positions and all according to very small minutia of detail.

Fact is...NONE or even ALL of what is being reported could be true.

The real question would seem to me...why is this planet ruled from apparently the outside...and why do they love chaos so dam much.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Grambler


What we're seeing is something new to many.


I think many believe that in order to support any given ideology, you have to back it 100% of the time.

And that scares me, because it's the same ideological approach seen in China, Soviet Russia.

Even scarier are the ones whose ideological approach is to believe their is any truth to any OTHER assumptions being any more accurate.

Being open minded and awake does not change the game...just makes one more aware...but not ANY MORE CORRECT..
at least for now.

originally posted by: YouSir
a reply to: Arnie123


Ummm...excuse me Arnold...enough with the name calling and childish behavior...

I’ve served three freaking times...I fear nothing and no one...I’m 5’10” and 230 lbs of lean mean...so put a sock in it...

I also fully integrate and understand the territorial nature of human beings...however...that being stated...it doesn’t detract from hard resolve to strive for less confrontation and more honor...

Granted we are an unevolved species...

YouSir

You ever consider we are THE MOST evolved species?

Our chaos is in no way even CLOSE our own making.

I have just as much proof of that as you do of anything else.

originally posted by: ParasuvO

originally posted by: YouSir
a reply to: Arnie123


Ummm...excuse me Arnold...enough with the name calling and childish behavior...

I’ve served three freaking times...I fear nothing and no one...I’m 5’10” and 230 lbs of lean mean...so put a sock in it...

I also fully integrate and understand the territorial nature of human beings...however...that being stated...it doesn’t detract from hard resolve to strive for less confrontation and more honor...

Granted we are an unevolved species...

YouSir

You ever consider we are THE MOST evolved species?

Our chaos is in no way even CLOSE our own making.

I have just as much proof of that as you do of anything else.

Like with religion it's easier to believe we are not in control of our destiny, and some god or alien is pulling the strings.

a reply to: ParasuvO

You ever consider we are THE MOST evolved species?

No, not really.

We've only been around for what? 2, 3 hundred thousand years? Others have been around a lot longer. Seems they might be more deserving of such a title. But maybe you should define your scale of "levels" of evolution.

I don't jump off moving trains, unless I have to. The people (Republic) put him in office. It's going where I believe, (my country needs to be). ... Trump's my President/CnC, .. I'll ride it out. Couldn't be worse than serving under B.O. . Really it's not. Trust me.

a reply to: murphy22

Like with Nixon, right?

Why change Dicks in the middle of a screw?

This recent action in Syria doesn't change my opinion on anything. I even expected something like this with Russia standing down militarily. Now everything can go back like it was before, for a while. Next up, I believe North Korea games. They say they want to get rid of nukes but do they really? Maybe they aren't bluffing or trying to pull a fast one.

Russia didn't want to start WW3 over Syria killing a few people after 500,000 already dead as long as Russians weren't targeted or killed. It would have been stupid to do so. Now if the democrats had their way, Hillary wouldn't have colluded with the Russians telling them what we were going to do and just started WW3. Trump is still messing it up for the war hawks but I suspect the next president will get it going. When that is, I do not know.

As far as getting on or off any train, I have more in common with his policies than opposed but many of the things he says and does, I've never been real happy with. I voted against Hillary. I never heard of a tweet bomb or tweet firing until Trump became president. I do not agree. Fortunately it was downplayed the following day and many bought it. Trump caused me to lose money with his words and tweets so I'm not real happy about that. Recently either I've gotten better at predicting him and everyone or I'm getting lucky. I blame more recent stock losses on the fed nonstop rate hikes though.

Right now on occasion I wonder if nukes are going to start flying or NK or Russia might send a few EMP weapons our way killing 90% of Americans after a year or what the next tweet bomb or killer news will be reported threatening fire and fury like the world hasn't seen. Am I happy with all these threats? No. If Trump had led into the possibility we might nuke NK if they don't get rid of nukes, maybe stocks wouldn't have suddenly tanked that day. I do believe the recent strike sent a message that he's not bluffing even though NK might be. I don't know though. I'm just trying to get a job after getting laid off and had to spend 1000 bucks on medical insurance last year which I never used because of the stupid law they didn't immediately revoke.

I will add 1000 bucks for 3 months of the cheapest plan I could find while I had zero plans to actually use any insurance. The tax penalty would have been higher. I paid for insurance most of the rest of the year so that was 1000 extra bucks when I didn't have much to spare. I believe I will have a job very soon so now I will likely have tax penalties for getting too much subsidy for required health care. I don't mind as much if I have a full time job.

a reply to: Phage

Not really. More like serving under an idiot. Because even though the U.S. Constitution "law", allows "removal" of such, a said idiot. ..Nah! It would get ugly. ... More like J.F. Kennedy. A "Democrat", but yet? He was An American. .. The same people that "modern" Dems are working for. Are the same, that killed him.

Don't talk to me about switching dicks in the middle of a screw. I've seen it done in government. Very recently. ... It is not really, all that exciting.

But I understand your emotion of fear. You should probably learn, how to live. And not worry so much, over things you have no control over. Because you don't control anything. I know, you're, all "inlighightened" and stuff. But learn how to control your basic sphere of influence. Because that's all you have, and "basic" is a word, I use kindly. The best education you could ever get. Is knowing how to die for something. It's not about your, him/her.. My Idol. It's about you. Something tells me, you don't live, you merely exists. If a dick in the middle of a screw, is your best analogy? .. You got a lot of learning ahead of you.

originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: TheGOAT

And you can vote mainstream and waste our country.

Obama already tried to waste our country and we took it back by not voting mainstream. Or did you miss that part?

You people give up on Trump and you're going to have George Soros paid people running this country. Just saying. If you think the "wars" are bad now, wait until his people are in control of our military.

a reply to: ParasuvO

I became active in protesting in the 60s... after Detroit riots in '67, Kent State, Nixon, Chicago, Berkley, Washington... and was a White Panther from Ann Arbor.. Been through the N. Korean hostage and Iran hostage crisis's...

I've seen every President since Ike... and Trump is the absolute worst.. There've been other butt-heads... (and Ford kept falling down stairs on live t.v.)...but this guy is like the worst soap opera star you could think of.

Per your reply? Yep.. you're correct.. Nothing new to see here...just head for the shelters!

Thanks much! Best, MS

i find it slightly amusing, if also somewhat alarming, that subscribers on a website like ATS would actually believe that a Billionnaire egomaniac who has been saved from bankruptcy by The Rothschild, would not get involved in a war during his presidency. FFS This is supposedly the website for people who have seen beyond the veil and are supposedly awake. He would not be president if he did not serve the agenda of The Cabal.

The premise of this OP is kind of amusing. It is an ongoing theme among Dems - they keep getting all excited and thinking that there will be one thing that will turn everyone against Trump and suddenly bring them over the liberal side.

People need to realize that liberals have gone so far off the rails that no one is going to flip over unless they have lost their minds.

Some may disagree with Trump, but most will still stand by the ideals which resulted in his election. And even if they don't, they are not going to suddenly start campaigning for anything resembling Hillary Clinton.

So far, Trump is like a breath of fresh air. He stresses some people out because he is so different. This country needed different.

He does what needs to be done. ISIS is almost gone. He is making sure that things don't backslide when he pulls troops out of Syria. How would it look if we pulled out and left Assad to exterminate his own people?

ETA: Disclaimer - I am not accusing the OP of being a liberal or anything. It is just the premise and those in this thread jumping on that wagon that I am talking about.

a reply to: LesMisanthrope

Everyone should be critical in moments like these. Whether you should abandon your leader is another question.

Another question is your leader worthy of being a leader? Not sure trump has proven that.

I didn't vote for either trump or hillary but was glad that Hillary lost due to her proven history as a worthless ,scandalous , corrupted career politician. In addition I thought that at worst , Trump would only be as bad as Hillary in the end, which appears where he is heading.

After seeing the corrupted systems darling lose the election was shocking. Then watching the MSM,GOP(neocons),DNC who has been the peoples enemy controlled by the war mongers and corporate Americas board of directors go bat sh1t crazy over trump, did give me a little bit of hope. I was actually thinking of putting a toe into the Trump train.

However, I saw one of his first actions and win was to repeal the only legislation (net neutrality) that protected the consumers from a fixed market versus the other anti competition and lobbyist friendly regulations. This brought me back to reality and the realization he is no better than the prior Corporate bobble heads.

Beside the hours of entertainment of watching the MSM and the Left go bat sh1t crazy over trump I see no reason to vote for him in the next election. We are simply trading one hidden power group for another and neither appear to really have the best interest of the people.

a reply to: interupt42

However, I saw one of his first actions and win was to repeal the only legislation (net neutrality) that protected the consumers from a fixed market versus the other anti competition and lobbyist friendly regulations. This brought me back to reality and the realization he is no better than the prior Corporate bobble heads.

Beside the hours of entertainment of watching the MSM and the Left go bat sh1t crazy over trump I see no reason to vote for him in the next election. We are simply trading one hidden power group for another and neither appear to really have the best interest of the people.

He's a capitalist, sure, but the notion that regulation of internet providers by the state is somehow better than internet providers managing their own businesses is a statist belief born of money and security. To trim the bureaucracy rather than grow it is always in the best interests of the people.

originally posted by: tribal

But then again, i was never really a strong Trump supporter. Oh sure, ive defended him here and there, but only when there was a principle or idea involved that illustrated how unhinged people can be and not see logic and reason. In those cases when logic or reason was on Trumps side i would try to point out to others how they were allowing their hatred of the man to skew their reasoning faculties.


But war is quite a different thing isnt it?

Man I don't know who is worst the Trumpsters who act bi-polar or the anti-Trumpsters who act like a hyperactive six year old on a sugar high every time Trump flinches...lol

The latest event is all Trump through and through. He comes off the top rope on everything then when he get leverage he deals... rinse and repeat..geez people. He dropped a MOAB and 60 missiles why would he NOT do this too. To be honest I don't think he would have if France didn't push for it too, but in the end this was a flick on Assad's nose that the Russians can accept. We are not sending troops back in and no timelines have changed to get out of there.

I think so many on both sides need to watch the media only once per month and not freak out hourly as they seem to do.

Only anti American communist supporters are off the "Trump train"

You traitors are acting out in emotions because you feel Syria conflict is owned by Obama and Clintons etc.. That is true but USA cant just run away from it no matter who we placed in the drivers seat.

Trump has done an amazing job so far for the USA and he will continue to for a long time.

Be rational and dont let your emotions turn you into a traitor

a reply to: tribal


Not happy about him mulling restarting the TPP, also felt the tweet about "missiles coming" was pretty irresponsible. I am happy about his pro America stance with regards to trade and bringing jobs here. He leaves a lot to be desired, but he is the only thing we've got. The real problem I have is we dont have another train to be on, its either him or the globalists and their puppets.