F.B.I. Raids Office of Trump’s Longtime Lawyer Michael Cohen

originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: JoshuaCox

It takes a lot of evidence even for an 'average Joe's lawyer to be raided... or it did until now. Now it can be done and no one will question it. Thanks for playing. Too bad you broke the game.

TheRedneck

The evidence is still confidential as part of the investigation. Do you have any proof that this raid didn't clear the threshold for evidence required?

originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: JoshuaCox

It takes a lot of evidence even for an 'average Joe's lawyer to be raided... or it did until now.

Still does. What does that tell you?

Now it can be done and no one will question it.

What makes you think that?

a reply to: soberbacchus

Like they haven’t been trying to trump up charges on Hillary and obama the whole time lol...

Even if they were found innocent in the end just an investigation would draw the media coverage off trumps blunders..and trump has repeatedly called for investigations. Yet TRUMPS OWN DOJ WONT TOUCH IT...

Appearently there is so little evidence against them that NO ONE in trumps DOJ has even attempted to indict either one. Even though once a week Fox News fabricates a new set of felonies they are supposedly committing or have committed..

How clean must they actually be for trumps DOJ to refuse an investigation???

a reply to: Aazadan

Yea, lol..

“Trump and Sean hannity told him so..”

a reply to: TheRedneck

I agree with you..

It would likely blow the whole case if they did that without enough evidence..

It would almost certainly cost careers and make someone a national pariah..

Hated by the right for targeting trump and hated by the left for blowing the investigation..

So we would need an extreme reason why a trump appointee would do that..

a reply to: Aazadan

So you're OK with the government taking property without presenting even a formal accusation of wrongdoing? Not even saying what they were investigating?

I wonder if you would think that if it were your property...

TheRedneck

a reply to: soberbacchus

Nice talking to you.

TheRedneck

a reply to: Aazadan

The innocent (not yet proven guilty) now has the burden of proof of their innocence?

interesting. How long can the government keep this evidence? 24 hours? A week? A year? 99 years?

TheRedneck

a reply to: JoshuaCox

So we would need an extreme reason why a trump appointee would do that..

Yes we would. Why do we not have one after an entire week?

TheRedneck

In other news, Trump's TRO request was denied.

Wood denied Hendon's application for a temporary restraining order that would block federal investigators from examining the seized material for their criminal investigation. Instead, she instructed prosecutors to assemble and index the seized records and give copies to all parties in the case.

www.usatoday.com...

originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: soberbacchus

Like they haven’t been trying to trump up charges on Hillary and obama the whole time lol...

Even if they were found innocent in the end just an investigation would draw the media coverage off trumps blunders..and trump has repeatedly called for investigations. Yet TRUMPS OWN DOJ WONT TOUCH IT...

Appearently there is so little evidence against them that NO ONE in trumps DOJ has even attempted to indict either one. Even though once a week Fox News fabricates a new set of felonies they are supposedly committing or have committed..

How clean must they actually be for trumps DOJ to refuse an investigation???

How dirty are they, NOT to investigate.

It's not supposed to be anyone's DOJ but the peoples. Like the FBI/Secret Police.

Trump doesn't control it like obama, any dictator and hitler did.

What has Hannity done? Is he under investigation now, too?

a reply to: burgerbuddy

What has Hannity done? Is he under investigation now, too?

No indication of such.

But he can thank Cohen's camp for getting his name announced as a client of Cohen's. For some reason he doesn't seem too happy about that.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: burgerbuddy

What has Hannity done? Is he under investigation now, too?

No indication of such.

But he can thank Cohen's camp for getting his name announced as a client of Cohen's. For some reason he doesn't seem too happy about that.

If he's not a client, he should be unhappy.

a reply to: burgerbuddy

If he is a client, he should be unhappy.

originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: Aazadan

The innocent (not yet proven guilty) now has the burden of proof of their innocence?

interesting. How long can the government keep this evidence? 24 hours? A week? A year? 99 years?

TheRedneck

Nope, but the prosecution has to prove guilt. The warrant they obtained to seize Cohens documents suggests they have some very strong evidence.

originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: Aazadan

So you're OK with the government taking property without presenting even a formal accusation of wrongdoing? Not even saying what they were investigating?

I wonder if you would think that if it were your property...

TheRedneck

Have you read the probable cause affidavit? Because I have not. Where is it?

It is out there, the judge read it, and apparently you have because you are saying there was no formal accusation of wrongdoing, not even saying what they were investigating, so I guess you've read it.

Where can I get a copy?

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: burgerbuddy

If he is a client, he should be unhappy.

Why?

Is there a crime they are looking for, that involves Him?

Or just your basic gestapo fishing trip?

a reply to: burgerbuddy

Why?

Because Cohen announced to the world that he is his client and Hannity did not want him to do that.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

originally posted by: burgerbuddy

originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: soberbacchus

Like they haven’t been trying to trump up charges on Hillary and obama the whole time lol...

Even if they were found innocent in the end just an investigation would draw the media coverage off trumps blunders..and trump has repeatedly called for investigations. Yet TRUMPS OWN DOJ WONT TOUCH IT...

Appearently there is so little evidence against them that NO ONE in trumps DOJ has even attempted to indict either one. Even though once a week Fox News fabricates a new set of felonies they are supposedly committing or have committed..

How clean must they actually be for trumps DOJ to refuse an investigation???

How dirty are they, NOT to investigate.

It's not supposed to be anyone's DOJ but the peoples. Like the FBI/Secret Police.

Trump doesn't control it like obama, any dictator and hitler did.

What has Hannity done? Is he under investigation now, too?

Yes, ultimately Trump does control it, though he must be careful to not do so for political reasons.

The FBI has proven they will go after Democrats, ask Anthony Weiner, Sen. Menendez and Hillary Clinton.

So, what's the problem here, other than the fact that they haven't committed a crime?

You simply cannot accept that neither of them did anything wrong, that's the only problem. It simply MUST be that they committed a crime, because it's Hillary and Obama, and every good Alt-Righter knows that they are evil incarnate and corrupt to the core.

They never committed a crime. Nothing improper was done. The DOJ headed by the president cannot even assemble enough to put together a real investigation, that ought to tell you everything, but instead tells you the opposite.

originally posted by: Aazadan

originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: Aazadan

The innocent (not yet proven guilty) now has the burden of proof of their innocence?

interesting. How long can the government keep this evidence? 24 hours? A week? A year? 99 years?

TheRedneck

Nope, but the prosecution has to prove guilt. The warrant they obtained to seize Cohens documents suggests they have some very strong evidence.

As strong as a supposed 3rd hand talk in a bar or paid salacious and unverified documents from russians?

lol.