"non" tippers are a zero sum in society

originally posted by: SeaWorthy
The whole purpose of a tip is gone and it should have the name changed.

Forced payment is not a tip. Tipping used to make both the good worker and the customer feel good and it was not for those who were bad workers.

Or it could simply be a "hey thanks for handing me # so I can just sit here and look at my phone".

I swear, it's the older generations who are the "entitlement generation".

originally posted by: Woodcarver
a reply to: tadaman

Or....... you could get a real job.

Why is the OP's job not a "real job"?

That's seriously a very jerk thing to say, you know?

This is a US thing on the whole.

In Australia we don't tip unless we want to. The norm is not to.

We also pay staff what they are at least entitled to, aka minimum wage.

I think the US needs an overhaul of their system but, that is up to them.

P

a reply to: Abysha

Yup, I used to make $2.13 an hour, and my paychecks were negative $80 a week. Relied 100% on tips.

I tip well and often.

I go to the same restaurants and usually order the exact same thing, being a vegetarian.

My food and service is always 110%, it's well worth it.

Once in a while, I'll tip a hostess when there is a wait for a table. Again, well worth it if you have a few people waiting with you. They are always shocked, because nobody else tips them!

At first I was discrete about it, not wanting to bother other patrons, and laying low. Now, I am blatant about it as a social experiment, to see what I can get away with. Well, all I can say is it works great and impresses everyone. Not so much impresses guests, but it makes them happy.

It pretty much makes everyone happy, how do you put a price on that?

a reply to: Abysha

It shouldn't just be for servers, bartenders, waitresses etc; the restaurant industry.

Really, anyone who is performing some form of personal service should get tipped for excellent performance.

You know, like tipping your stylist or barber etc.

I work in an industry that traditionally accepts tips. I almost never go above and beyond anymore. It doesn't pay. Most people wouldn't pee on my hair if it were on fire. I once worked on someone's house for 7 hours straight and never took a bathroom break or water break--all they did was complain ( I didn't complain about their BS house once.)


I think most people are either Scrooges incarnate, or just too dumb to understand that no one gets paid as well as they think we do.

originally posted by: Abysha

originally posted by: SeaWorthy
The whole purpose of a tip is gone and it should have the name changed.

Forced payment is not a tip. Tipping used to make both the good worker and the customer feel good and it was not for those who were bad workers.

Or it could simply be a "hey thanks for handing me # so I can just sit here and look at my phone".

I swear, it's the older generations who are the "entitlement generation".

That is the exact attitude that gets crappy tips.

Your job as a server is to cater to the customer, not expect a tip. The tip is your reward for your service.

I served and tended bar for around a decade, was a trainer most of those years.

Tips are NOT guaranteed, the ones that tended to get lower percentage tips were the ones with piss poor attitudes, or entitlement attitudes.

Tips are earned, not given.

a reply to: tadaman

So you see, we that get tips dont actually need YOUR tip money. We need you to go away

Agree with everything except this.

You DO need those non-tippers.

Well maybe not you personally, but the business sure does, the business that employs you that is.

a reply to: Abysha

Dunno about you, but I tip the folks at the gas stations when the weather is crappy.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Abysha

Dunno about you, but I tip the folks at the gas stations when the weather is crappy.

I do to, I give them a tip about the weather, stay indoors.

originally posted by: Vector99

Tips are earned, not given.

Perfect excuse to be a snob and not tip. Try tipping someone who looks down, you might be surprised how much it cheers them up. You might learn something worldly there.

originally posted by: NarcolepticBuddha

originally posted by: Vector99

Tips are earned, not given.

Perfect excuse to be a snob and not tip. Try tipping someone who looks down, you might be surprised how much it cheers them up. You might learn something worldly there.

I worked for tips for about a decade. I know how it goes.

originally posted by: Vector99

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Abysha

Dunno about you, but I tip the folks at the gas stations when the weather is crappy.

I do to, I give them a tip about the weather, stay indoors.

I used to say that my tip was, "Never make eye contact with your betters".

But that is coming from a guy who (in college) would pay his rent in one dollar bills.

originally posted by: Vector99

originally posted by: NarcolepticBuddha

originally posted by: Vector99

Tips are earned, not given.

Perfect excuse to be a snob and not tip. Try tipping someone who looks down, you might be surprised how much it cheers them up. You might learn something worldly there.

I worked for tips for about a decade. I know how it goes.

Then how about throwing some greenstars my way, hard@$$

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Vector99

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Abysha

Dunno about you, but I tip the folks at the gas stations when the weather is crappy.

I do to, I give them a tip about the weather, stay indoors.

But that is coming from a guy who (in college) would pay his rent in one dollar bills.

I knew it!

At SOME point you were a stripper.

originally posted by: NarcolepticBuddha

originally posted by: Vector99

originally posted by: NarcolepticBuddha

originally posted by: Vector99

Tips are earned, not given.

Perfect excuse to be a snob and not tip. Try tipping someone who looks down, you might be surprised how much it cheers them up. You might learn something worldly there.

I worked for tips for about a decade. I know how it goes.

Then how about throwing some greenstars my way, hard@$$

are servers still making around $100 a night, maybe first cut leaves with $40 after 2 hours, 2nd cut $60-70 after 3, but closers are still making over $100 a night right? After about a 6-7 hour shift?

Working for tips is a spoiled industry, don't ruin the hourly rate and start getting them taxed on it!

originally posted by: Vector99

originally posted by: NarcolepticBuddha

originally posted by: Vector99

originally posted by: NarcolepticBuddha

originally posted by: Vector99

Tips are earned, not given.

Perfect excuse to be a snob and not tip. Try tipping someone who looks down, you might be surprised how much it cheers them up. You might learn something worldly there.

I worked for tips for about a decade. I know how it goes.

Then how about throwing some greenstars my way, hard@$$

are servers still making around $100 a night, maybe first cut leaves with $40 after 2 hours, 2nd cut $60-70 after 3, but closers are still making over $100 a night right? After about a 6-7 hour shift?

Working for tips is a spoiled industry, don't ruin the hourly rate and start getting them taxed on it!

I wouldn't know. I never worked in this industry. My tips are usually Jackson's. Trust me I earn them, and how!

a reply to: NarcolepticBuddha

Jackson was a racist!

originally posted by: Vector99

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Vector99

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Abysha

Dunno about you, but I tip the folks at the gas stations when the weather is crappy.

I do to, I give them a tip about the weather, stay indoors.

But that is coming from a guy who (in college) would pay his rent in one dollar bills.

I knew it!

At SOME point you were a stripper.

I worked under the name, "Potted Meat".

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Vector99

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Vector99

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Abysha

Dunno about you, but I tip the folks at the gas stations when the weather is crappy.

I do to, I give them a tip about the weather, stay indoors.

But that is coming from a guy who (in college) would pay his rent in one dollar bills.

I knew it!

At SOME point you were a stripper.

I worked under the name, "Potted Meat".

They told me that's just parts like lips and anus...

Oh! Now I get it!