Attorney General Jeff Sessions names prosecutor to probe FBI, DOJ wrongdoing

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: xuenchen

Huber isn't a prosecutor he's a judge.
Judges have NO PROSECUTORIAL ABILITIES.
Fail...

oh no where did you go?
this isn't another of those "its only a matter" things is it???

originally posted by: DJW001

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: shooterbrody

But Mueller HAS uncovered criminality. In case you haven't been paying attention, a bunch of people have been indicted...

You wouldn't know that if you got your news from Fox and QAnon. They are creating a parallel universe through mind control.

Seriously... It is sad how much people will willingly dupe themselves JUST because their source isn't mainstream.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: shooterbrody

He can file all the motions he wants. It won't change anything. Furthermore, he isn't the only one who was indicted.

still not the topic of this thread
I will be happy to discuss those with you in the appropriate theads tho as "the others" pleas are under scrutiny as well since the prosecution withheld evidence.(more mueller fups)

a reply to: shooterbrody

Keep your fingers crossed I guess. Because ummm..he's been indicted and has a trial scheduled. So......

a reply to: Sillyolme

who ? your judge?

www.breitbart.com...

WASHINGTON, DC – Professor Jonathan Turley, a top national legal expert on government investigations, commented on Thursday about Attorney General Jeff Sessions’ decision to bring in U.S. Attorney John Huber. Turley called it “brilliant”to combine all the powers of the U.S. Department of Justice’s inspector general with a prosecutor who can bring charges, seek indictments, and get results for President Trump far more quickly than a second special counsel.

holy crap, this is something I did not know...

He also informed the chairmen that Inspector General Michael Horowitz, who is working with Huber, has a staff of 470 investigators, giving Huber access to enormous investigative firepower that far exceeds the staff of any special counsel.

470 investigators is alot!

That point is critical because as Sessions’ March 29 letter explains, the inspector general’s jurisdiction to conduct civil and criminal investigations includes “actions taken by former employees after they have left government service.” Then Huber can act on any of those matters.

and they can investigate actions after they leave office....holy moley this is going to get interesting

a reply to: shooterbrody
I already said it was the wrong state. Try to keep up if you're going to criticize me. Or dont.

a reply to: Sillyolme

Not my intention, thought you had information I had not heard about.

originally posted by: shooterbrody

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: xuenchen

Just another carrot on a stick for the gullible so they can pretend like just because Robert Mueller is doing something that implicitly means there is criminality to uncover.

FTFY

Try spell check.

a reply to: Sillyolme

for?
ftfy(fixed that for you)

a reply to: shooterbrody
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They will laugh him out of the courtroom. Plus this was only for the charges filed in Virginia which are duplicate to charges filed in D.C.. The tax evasion charges have to be filed in the jurisdiction the perpetrator lived at the time. He made a similar motion in D.C. earlier last month. That judge has not granted the request as of now. His DC trial is slated for Sept 17 and the trial in Virginia is scheduled for early July.

a reply to: shooterbrody
Ya know what...We'll forgo taking any information from trump whos interest in this investigation is solely to make it go away and discredit anyone involved in it. Are you so gullible you can't see that? Please open your eyes.
Innocent people would let the investigation proceed to prove their innocence. It's really as simple as that. If he's innocent it's obvious he doesn't know it. He acts guilty as hell.

The evidence that Huber and Horowitz have been taking sworn testimony for months now is solid. The statements that have appeared especially in relation to Bruce Ohr along with the added fact that Nellie Ohr has turned over all her opposition research is indicative of this.

Since Congress hasn't interviewed them who has? In this case that can only be Horowitz at the least but since we know Huber has been around for awhile it's obvious that it's both.

It also explains why Nunes canceled Ohrs scheduled interview in January. Not needed as subpoenas and prosecution is coming. It appears we know who is cooperating as well: Page, Strzok, Priestap, Baker, and the Ohrs. Smart move on their parts.

Man, they really did this right. I take back any mean things I might have said about Sessions in the past. That it was kept under wrap with no leaks should tell some folk something and scare the hay-ul out of the compromised players.

#2) The same people under investigation within the IG purview (FBI and DOJ officials) are transparently cooperating with the Inspector General. That cooperation, in combination with a likelihood of unlawful conduct, would require a DOJ official (prosecutor) to be assigned to negotiate and outline the DOJ legal terms of investigative compliance. The person negotiating the terms for cooperation would NOT be the Inspector General; because of the potential for criminal charges related to the investigated individuals, it would be the job of a DOJ career prosecutor to comply with legal needs.

#3) Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, Bruce and Nellie Ohr and Bill Priestap have quotes inside the HPSCI memos. Those quotes come from investigative interviews; no congressional committee has interviewed those persons. Those would be a few of the people in #2 above; and their testimony to Horowitz and a DOJ Prosecutor, would make them witnesses in a criminal investigation. That explains why they have not given interviews to congressional committees. The DOJ needs to keep the integrity of their testimony inside the investigative unit. (ie. in the control of the DOJ official from outside Washington that Jeff Sessions notes).

#5) Cooperating witness testimony in a criminal investigation also means congress would not know of the details. Congress (Nunes, Gowdy and Goodlatte) wouldn’t even know a criminal investigation was opened. The prosecutor works parallel with, but separate from, the IG investigation. Congress would know of the IG, but not the prosecutor. This interview by AG Sessions is the first indication congress would have of a DOJ official already looking at the criminal issues.

Link

a reply to: Sillyolme

They have yet to laugh him out of the courtroom, as was claimed by others here with supposed "knowledge" of the courts. Instead there is now a hearing scheduled, as I understand.
www.cnn.com...

The arguments outlined Wednesday to throw out the entire case largely track with an earlier lawsuit Manafort filed against Mueller, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and the Justice Department, for going outside the scope of the special counsel's authority. A hearing in that case, before the same judge overseeing Manafort's criminal case, is set for April 4.

I didn't realize they scheduled hearings to "laugh him out of the courtroom".
fortune.com...

Former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort has been under FBI surveillance since before the 2016 presidential election, CNN reported. The surveillance, which included wiretapping, searches, and other types of observation, reportedly began in 2014, when Manafort was the subject of an investigation into work done by a group of Washington consulting firms for the former ruling party of Ukraine.

As manafort was PREVIOUSLY investigated by the fbi for this it would be outside the scope of investigating things ARISING from the sc investigation and outside the sc scope. Seems an actual judge will look into this on the 4th and make a determination.
Or do you not agree that manafort had previously been investigated for this?

Again this is not the thread to discuss this, and I will be happy to continue this discussion elsewhere as there are many other threads about manafort and mueller.

originally posted by: The GUT
The evidence that Huber and Horowitz have been taking sworn testimony for months now is solid. The statements that have appeared especially in relation to Bruce Our along with the added fact that Nellie Our has turned over all her opposition research is indicative of this.

Since Congress hasn't interviewed them who has? In this case that can only be Horowitz at the least but since we know Huber has been around for awhile it's obvious that it's both.

It also explains why Nunes canceled Ohrs scheduled interview. Not needed as subpoenas and prosecution is coming. It appears we know who is cooperating as well: Page, Strzok, Priestap, Baker, and the Ohrs. Smart move on their parts.

Man, they really did this right. I take back any mean things I might have said about Sessions in the past. That it was kept under wrap with no leaks should tell some folk something and scare the hay-ul out of the compromised players.

#2) The same people under investigation within the IG purview (FBI and DOJ officials) are transparently cooperating with the Inspector General. That cooperation, in combination with a likelihood of unlawful conduct, would require a DOJ official (prosecutor) to be assigned to negotiate and outline the DOJ legal terms of investigative compliance. The person negotiating the terms for cooperation would NOT be the Inspector General; because of the potential for criminal charges related to the investigated individuals, it would be the job of a DOJ career prosecutor to comply with legal needs.

#3) Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, Bruce and Nellie Ohr and Bill Priestap have quotes inside the HPSCI memos. Those quotes come from investigative interviews; no congressional committee has interviewed those persons. Those would be a few of the people in #2 above; and their testimony to Horowitz and a DOJ Prosecutor, would make them witnesses in a criminal investigation. That explains why they have not given interviews to congressional committees. The DOJ needs to keep the integrity of their testimony inside the investigative unit. (ie. in the control of the DOJ official from outside Washington that Jeff Sessions notes).

#5) Cooperating witness testimony in a criminal investigation also means congress would not know of the details. Congress (Nunes, Gowdy and Goodlatte) wouldn’t even know a criminal investigation was opened. The prosecutor works parallel with, but separate from, the IG investigation. Congress would know of the IG, but not the prosecutor. This interview by AG Sessions is the first indication congress would have of a DOJ official already looking at the criminal issues.

Link

great points!
thanks for the link

a reply to: The GUT

Man, they really did this right. I take back any mean things I might have said about Sessions in the past. That it was kept under wrap with no leaks should tell some folk something and scare the hay-ul out of the compromised players.

I am really impressed that this did not leak out as well. Sessions should keep a list of who knew about this because they are trustworthy. It appears this could have been an ongoing investigation since july of last year. Quite a long time with no leaks.

originally posted by: shooterbrody

I am really impressed that this did not leak out as well. Sessions should keep a list of who knew about this because they are trustworthy. It appears this could have been an ongoing investigation since july of last year. Quite a long time with no leaks.

Pretty much unheard of in our lifetimes when it comes to institutional corruption in D.C. and an indicator that these cases are going to be very solid.

The evidence is also very suggestive that at least one Grand Jury has been empaneled already. The only real mystery on that is where? D.C. makes the most sense but there are some interesting questions in that regard. I sure would like to know where all Huber is showing up these days.

I posted this earlier in the thread, but knowing what we know now I believe it deserves a revisit:

“I am pleased to announce the first members of the Attorney General’s Advisory Committee under this administration. These U.S. Attorneys will play an important role in carrying out the Department of Justice’s mission to reduce violent crime, combat transnational criminal organizations, secure our southern border, end the devastating opioid crisis, and return to the rule of law,” said Attorney General Sessions.

Link

Huber is on the list. The theory is this group are the gangbusters---shades of Elliot Ness & The Untouchables. I think the particular wording is meaningful.

D eal or No Deal – There’s a Transparency Within Two Factions of DOJ and FBI Political “Small Group”

a reply to: The GUT

from your link

Remember, the IG is looking at gross misconduct of official DOJ and FBI policy and practices. The prosecutor is looking at criminal misconduct from within those offices. The IG releases findings to the public, the prosecutor does not – until the courtroom. There is an overlap within the parallel of the IG and Prosecutor, but both have entirely different objectives.

So the ig report will soon be followed with arrests and charges?
That will be an interesting day if that is how it plays out.

originally posted by: shooterbrody

So the ig report will soon be followed with arrests and charges?
That will be an interesting day if that is how it plays out.

There will probably be more than one IG report but as they drop they will probably be quickly followed by either charges or recommendations from both Horowitz and Huber.

Another point that really interests me is Bill Priestap. He's the only one that hasn't either been removed or resigned or demoted.

He's also the one that Comey attempted to throw under the bus as the person who was responsible for not informing Congress of the Muh Russia investigation.

Someone mentioned the possibility elsewhere that Priestap was disgusted at the corruption and weaseling in the various investigations and is more of an Admiral Rogers than a Strzok so-to-speak.That he wasn't demoted or removed (not to mention that we hear so little about him except for Comey trying to clothesline him) would lend that theory some credence.

Either way it's pretty much a given that he's cooperating.

a reply to: The GUT

Another point that really interests me is Bill Priestap

That guy could bury alot of them.
yournewswire.com...
I don't know how accurate that site is, but there is alot of info on Priestap and his associations there.