Stormy and 60min.

originally posted by: Arnie123

originally posted by: crtrvt

originally posted by: iwanttobelieve70

originally posted by: olaru12
I wonder if Trump swore to love and honor Melania when he married her. Screwing porn stars when your wife is birthing your son is a strange way to show it.

Do you know if she is cool with it? Some are.

Right. I bet you do want to believe that...

Right, and I bet the opposite is what you want to believe? Lol

Thats the best thing about this, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW 😂😂

I'm still reeling from this pitiful attempt, whatever happened to that Disc? Lol did they even play it??? Idk, the scumbag lawyer kepted tweeting it like a threat or something.

All sensationalized like the super market tabloids, bunch of fishies caught 🤣🤣

The poster was alleging some woman are cool with their husbands cheating on them while giving birth. I call fantasy land on that.

originally posted by: Abysha

originally posted by: RadioRobert
The reason this isn't going to get traction is because everyone already knows he is a philanderer. Noone thinks Trump is a paragon of virtue and not a playboy.

You are totally right. Most people don't care. Except for his biggest core supporters who have been able to deny and turn a blind eye. They will eventually be forced to look and acknowledge they are supporting somebody that is morally reprehensible by their standards and either have to withdraw their support or maybe realize the values they've used as a bludgeon on society aren't as important as they've been pretending they are.

You don't think millions of moderates think he's both morally rephrensible and still voted for him on policy? They're all "fundies" who turn a blind eye to him and endorse adultery, eh? Maybe we can look past the identity politics for a moment... But maybe not

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: Abysha

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: Abysha

originally posted by: scauma
a reply to: Justso


Yet if this were Obama and a porn star it'd be the end of world right? It's amazing how republicans and democrats can twist anything to fit their particular narrative. You guys will make excuses for Trump because in your mind, he's right and everyone else is wrong. It's really quite sad that most of you don't understand this.

It has gone beyond absurdity and has circled back into comedy. It's almost like when they dismiss obviously-problematic things like this with a casual wave of their #maga caps, they sort of know they are part of the inside joke of Trump-can-do-no-wrong-ism.

They have to know how ridiculous it is at this point. Otherwise, I've waaaaay overestimated humanity.

So people that arent obsessed with trumps sex life are the ridiculous ones?

It used to be that the left didnt care about who people had sex with. It was one of the things I agreed with them about.

No. People who dismiss the hypocrisy of the evangelical right supporting a lecherous, prideful adulterer are being ridiculous.

Trump was propped up by the party and religion who have historically repressed sexuality, sex work, and secular pride. It's like their centuries of enforced values are meaningless when faced with this marmalade ball of chaos.

Only #maga culture could possibly mix that strange cocktail of defending sexual freedom and punching down at the same time, of simultaneously having fundie Christians defend adultery while still harming others over the "sanctity of marriage". Such bull #.

Oh please.

Just like the left and party of sexual freedom and women push Islamic culture, whihc represents more oppression for gays and women.

Or ghow the feminists pushed Bill clinton.

ANd so on.

The selective outrage is palpable.

Religious people voted for Trump, some voted for hillary.

Some are hypocrites that thought trump was pristine, they were wrong or willfully ignorant.

But does that excuse the other side being hypocritical and now all of the sudden pretending a consensual affair is a huge deal, when they refused to look at those things (rightfully so) under past democrats?

I don't know any liberals who are "outraged" at the fact Trump is sleeping with adult film star; that was sort of a given. I think the exasperation (what you have mistaken for outrage) is from the double standard.

I also don't know any liberals who support those harmful parts of Islamic culture. That is just how conservatives translate sentiment that is anything less than absolute animosity towards Muslims.

originally posted by: RadioRobert
The reason this isn't going to get traction is because everyone already knows he is a philanderer. Noone thinks Trump is a paragon of virtue and not a playboy.

Yeah, I'd actually agree with you, if this was a more competent politician... He had consensual sex over a decade ago with a pornstar, big deal right?

But, this is Trump we're talking about... I'm sure he's over inflated ego will manage to find a way to keep digging a bigger hole for himself, until theirs no possible way out... lol.

originally posted by: RadioRobert
a reply to: Abysha

You're kinda all over the map on this post so I'm not sure how to respond.

I'm not a "fundie evangelical" nor defending adultery. And most "fundies" I know wrote in a vote for Ted Cruz. Can you point me to a single "fundie" hypocritically supporting adultery? Or does everyone who didn't vote HRC get lumped into a "fundie" pile with you?

Statisti cs

As a matter of fact, white evangelicals supported Trump more than they did Romney, McCain, or Bush.

originally posted by: Abysha

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: Abysha

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: Abysha

originally posted by: scauma
a reply to: Justso


Yet if this were Obama and a porn star it'd be the end of world right? It's amazing how republicans and democrats can twist anything to fit their particular narrative. You guys will make excuses for Trump because in your mind, he's right and everyone else is wrong. It's really quite sad that most of you don't understand this.

It has gone beyond absurdity and has circled back into comedy. It's almost like when they dismiss obviously-problematic things like this with a casual wave of their #maga caps, they sort of know they are part of the inside joke of Trump-can-do-no-wrong-ism.

They have to know how ridiculous it is at this point. Otherwise, I've waaaaay overestimated humanity.

So people that arent obsessed with trumps sex life are the ridiculous ones?

It used to be that the left didnt care about who people had sex with. It was one of the things I agreed with them about.

No. People who dismiss the hypocrisy of the evangelical right supporting a lecherous, prideful adulterer are being ridiculous.

Trump was propped up by the party and religion who have historically repressed sexuality, sex work, and secular pride. It's like their centuries of enforced values are meaningless when faced with this marmalade ball of chaos.

Only #maga culture could possibly mix that strange cocktail of defending sexual freedom and punching down at the same time, of simultaneously having fundie Christians defend adultery while still harming others over the "sanctity of marriage". Such bull #.

Oh please.

Just like the left and party of sexual freedom and women push Islamic culture, whihc represents more oppression for gays and women.

Or ghow the feminists pushed Bill clinton.

ANd so on.

The selective outrage is palpable.

Religious people voted for Trump, some voted for hillary.

Some are hypocrites that thought trump was pristine, they were wrong or willfully ignorant.

But does that excuse the other side being hypocritical and now all of the sudden pretending a consensual affair is a huge deal, when they refused to look at those things (rightfully so) under past democrats?

I don't know any liberals who are "outraged" at the fact Trump is sleeping with adult film start; that was sort of a given. I think the exasperation (what you have mistaken for outrage) is from the double standard.

I also don't know any liberals who support those harmful parts of Islamic culture. That is just how conservatives translate sentiment that are anything less than absolute animosity towards Muslims.

I have seen both.

I have seen many trump haters saying that this affair is terrible and may lead to his ouseter from office.

I have seen the NYT say its a big deal, while in 1998 saying Bills affairs were no big deal. I see the liberal MSM spend hours a day on the story, while refusing to cover Obamas supposed lovers.

I have also seen many on the left celebrate the most anti women and homosexual parts of islam, such as Linda sarsour at the womens march, or the ignoring of Female genital mutilation, or the absolute ignoring of the treatment of women and gays in some of the Islamic countries.

The point is both sides have hypocrities. I am not going to force me to suddenly pretend I care about someone having an affair before they were in public office.

a reply to: Abysha

Looks like more voted outside the two big parties than ever before, statistically...

a reply to: Subaeruginosa

His own worst enemy, for sure. That fragile ego.

a reply to: Grambler

The difference is that the majority of liberals are against the oppressive cultural components of certain Muslim-majority nations. Yet I can prove with numbers that over 80% of Americans who made centuries-long careers out of telling others what they can and cannot do in the bedroom... suddenly supported a man that represents everything they have always pretended to hate.

Party of family values. No more.

Just one more chip away at any morality the Repubs once had.
The public support you've had for this dude is destroying your party.
More and more each day.

boo trump
you did something not illegal 12 years ago that was bad
boo
boo


what else is expected to be done?

originally posted by: Abysha
a reply to: Grambler

The difference is that the majority of liberals are against the oppressive cultural components of certain Muslim-majority nations. Yet I can prove with numbers that over 80% of Americans who made centuries-long careers out of telling others what they can and cannot do in the bedroom... suddenly supported a man that represents everything they have always pretended to hate.

And 80 percent of the people who mnake a living pushing womens issues are absolutely silent on those same abuses.

Look, if you want the media in this country proving themselves to be worthless and hypocrites by pushing a story on trump consensual sex life when the failed to do so with Obama, just so you can mock some religious prudes, then knock yourself out.

I will focus on real issues.

originally posted by: okrian
Party of family values. No more.

Just one more chip away at any morality the Repubs once had.
The public support you've had for this dude is destroying your party.
More and more each day.

For years we all heard, "The Republican party is a party of out-of-touch puritans. No wonder it is so irrelevant".
Now today it's apparently "The Republican party has abandoned it's family values. No wonder it's in decline".

And just for the record, I'm independent, and the only thing that would make me happier than watching the GOP establishment fall apart is watching both parties self-destruct. They're both so close.

ETA: And I still haven't seen an example of a "fundie" who now "defend adultery"...

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: Abysha
a reply to: Grambler

The difference is that the majority of liberals are against the oppressive cultural components of certain Muslim-majority nations. Yet I can prove with numbers that over 80% of Americans who made centuries-long careers out of telling others what they can and cannot do in the bedroom... suddenly supported a man that represents everything they have always pretended to hate.

And 80 percent of the people who mnake a living pushing womens issues are absolutely silent on those same abuses.

To begin with, you are just guessing that number when I can provide statistics. Second, you are talking about feminists who try to make changes in their own nation not being as vocal about what is going on in other nations. How is that a reasonable (or even relevant) comparison?

originally posted by: Abysha

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: Abysha
a reply to: Grambler

The difference is that the majority of liberals are against the oppressive cultural components of certain Muslim-majority nations. Yet I can prove with numbers that over 80% of Americans who made centuries-long careers out of telling others what they can and cannot do in the bedroom... suddenly supported a man that represents everything they have always pretended to hate.

And 80 percent of the people who mnake a living pushing womens issues are absolutely silent on those same abuses.

To begin with, you are just guessing that number when I can provide statistics. Second, you are talking about feminists who try to make changes in their own nation not being as vocal about what is going on in other nations. How is that a reasonable (or even relevant) comparison?

Ok lets see the stats.

And there are issues in the US, such as female genital mutilation.

FGM is performed with special knives, scissors, scalpels, pieces of glass or razor blades. Anesthetics and antiseptics are uncommon unless the procedure is performed by medical practitioners.

By stripping sex of physical pleasure, it is thought the female’s libido will be reduced, her virginity safeguarded, and her marital fidelity ensured. Similar practices have occurred in the United States too. American physicians treated females for masturbation by removing their clitoris from the mid-19th century through the mid-20th century.

The immediate effects of FGM may include blood loss, severe pain, and sometimes death. Long-term health problems may include urinary infections, infertility, painful menstruation, and painful sexual intercourse. Women who have had FGM are significantly more likely to experience difficulties during childbirth, and their babies are more likely to die.

According to the Population Reference Bureau, more than 500,000 females in the United States are at risk of or have been subjected to FGM. Forty percent of them live in five metro areas.

FGM has been a crime in America since 1996. Federal law provides that, “whoever knowingly circumcises, excises, or infibulates the whole or any part of the labia majora or labia minora or clitoris of another person who has not attained the age of 18 years shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both.”

The first federal FGM prosecution, however, was not filed until 2017, when two Michigan doctors and the wife of one of the doctors were charged with performing FGM on two seven-year-old girls.

FGM is a crime under state law in 26 states, but I was not able to find examples of state prosecutions. Attempts to make it a crime in the remaining 24 states have met resistance. It can be difficult to separate attempts to end FGM from claims of Islamophobia.

...

Political correctness also is an issue. The New York Times would not use the term “Female Genital Mutilation” in its article about the Michigan doctors, except in a quote. The Times called the offense, “genital cutting,” despite the fact that the prosecution was based on a federal criminal provision entitled, “Female genital mutilation.”

According to Celia Dugger, the Times’ Health and Science editor, “genital cutting” was a “less culturally loaded” term than “FGM.”

Ayaan Hirsi Ali, a woman’s rights activist, has said, “It is one thing to respect other cultures and religions, and quite another to turn a blind eye to cultural practices that violate the human rights of women and girls.”

thehill.com...

Weird, I didnt here Hillary, all of the women in hollywood or the womens march discussing the half a million girls that got their clitoris destroyed or are at risk for it.

Now why would that be? I guess they were to busy yelling about cat calling and other pressing issues.

a reply to: Grambler

I've already told you that I agree with you on that topic and that those who turn a blind eye to that are hypocrites.

We are simply arguing which is worse. Which is stupid. Because this thread isn't about mutilating infants in the name of religion; but it prominently features supporting a womanizing adulterer in the name of religion.

originally posted by: Abysha
a reply to: Grambler

I've already told you that I agree with you on that topic and that those who turn a blind eye to that are hypocrites.

We are simply arguing which is worse. Which is stupid. Because this thread isn't about mutilating infants in the name of religion; but it prominently features supporting a womanizing adulterer in the name of religion.

Where did the OP mention the religious supporting an adulterer?

Thats just your spin on it, which is fine.

You see the numbers that 81% of evangelicals voted for Trump, and assume that means they are hypocrites, but you can provide no evidence for that.

Perhaps the voted over the supreme court appointments, or because they hated Hillary, who was no moral paragon, more.

Regardless, this story is dumb and pointless There are many legit reasons to dislike trump, such as his signing of the omnibus bill, his escalating tensions with Russia or china, his inability to get obamacare overturned, and many other things.

My intial response to you was merely saying that people that arent enthralled by this story are not ridiculous as you said; many of this just realize it as the hypocritically pushed story by the MSM that it is, a non issue.

a reply to: IAMTAT

I didn't watch it.....hockey season is still in. I mean who wants to watch a porn actress talk ? See what I did there maybe Aghh, slurp slurp, gagm mon mon mon agh slurp slurp......Maybe that kinda dialogue. Maybe that old stand by porn actress lines....."It's so big" with devilish grin on her face. The classic ......"I"ve never done this before". With sheepish grin on her face. She's a porn actress with about as much credibility as Hillary Clinton.

originally posted by: UnBreakable

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Xtrozero

She said she could describe his junk if needed. She even said his junk.

I sure hope so. It was only inches from her face if her video performances are any indication.

Well out of a lineup of penises, I don't think I could even pick out my husbands, he said he doesn't think he could either,

lol

a reply to: Stormdancer777

I could recognize mine....it's the one smiling with one eye. Careful, if he likes you he'll wink at ya.