Police Departments replacing complaint forms with intimidation.

ETA: This is a longer video so please take the time to watch it. See "Fair warning" below.

I came across this compilation video of undercover reporters asking police how to file a complaint. A good chunk of the footage is from actual PD cameras and all video is from newsreel as this was a nationwide test it seems, not just random "reporters" - so I feel it's safe to assume something has come of all of this.

Fair warning: The video cuts to straight audio of phone calls with a black screen at around 17:45 for about 10 minutes. I listened but phone call recordings just aren't "proofy" enough for me




This is a simple request for information on filing a complaint. The reporters aren't giving details because they don't have to. They're not filing false reports. So the police in these numerous instances decide to intimidate and/or flat out arrest (and in one case assaults) the reporter.


What say you, oh ATS denizens? Is this legit?

a reply to: OrdoAdChao

I know an ex-British cop who was responsible for dealing with complaints when a letter arrived complaining about his conduct a few days earlier. He threw it in the bin.

If you really want to complain about them you have to hog-tie them first.

a reply to: Kester

In searching ATS for this situation I came across your thread on the same things happening across the pond. I am going to give it a good read through, so S&F from my thread to yours!

I personally feel it's ridiculous but not surprising. Tie duty to livelihood and this is what we get; CYA applies to anyone who works for a living.

a reply to: OrdoAdChao

I watched that the other day and thought about posting it but I was so ticked off I decided against it because I'd have said things I'd later regret.

It's very shocking and disturbing to witness.
Thanks for posting.

a reply to: muzzleflash

Thanks for replying. This is backwards and completely violating the notion of "To Serve and Protect". In a tangential way, this reminds me of the undercover videos of people asking beat cops for directions and being berated for it. It's almost like an escalation of the same tactic.

a reply to: OrdoAdChao


Wow, that is so wrong. I have no words!

a reply to: OrdoAdChao

Wow.
Just wow.

Cops look out for cops and protect each other, no matter the cost. This is not just a joke in the movies, it's the way things run. So, one cannot complain to a cop about a cop.

Find out who their Internal Affairs are and go directly to them, for any complaint, no matter how minor. Is it a really big deal? Contact your representatives as well and leave a paper trail of having contacted them concurrently with your IA.

When dealing with crooks, you have to think like one and you have to anticipate all ways they will try to obstruct you.

Secret takeover much america?

a reply to: KTemplar

I agree. I love brevity and the verbosity of this situation is in the video. I had to be brief so I didn't go off the rails.

This is completely backwards.

As low as $13 today on ebay, a real bargain for taxpayers.

a reply to: Kharron

You're spot on. Citizens cannot trust their "betters" in the PD. You have to go over their heads - best with a lawyer - in order to get anywhere. Can't afford a lawyer? You will be harassed or arrested for questioning their practices.

I think the only way to be heard is as a huge group and will be called a new civil war .
Because any other complaint will never be heard .

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

So the police deserve no scrutiny? It's a free-for-all if you have a badge and a gun! Look down at the ground when you see that fancy uniform and badge. Respect your betters, citizen!

a reply to: OrdoAdChao

LOL

Sound like the avg lazy worker.

BRAH ARE YOU SURE?!

Please dont make me do my job, I'm trying to ride this clock.

a reply to: OrdoAdChao

Yes. You had better knwo your station, punk civilian!

many years ago i enquired about making a complaint against an officer. i was told to 'f**k off'. this is how they roll. power corrupts. little hitler syndrome. saddoes.

a reply to: OrdoAdChao

I have seen videos such as that one before. Absolutely egregious. Not all cops are bad, but almost every cop will take the side of a fellow cop.

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Unlawful arrest and the 2nd amendment. That's worth a totally different thread.

When does arrest encroach upon kidnapping? Is it by the taste of the boot?

a reply to: kelbtalfenek


I don't disagree. Anyone in a any profession is beholden to uplifting their peers. The problem here is simple requests for information that result in intimidation or arrest.