**BREAKING** Shooting confirmed at High School in Maryland, facility on lockdown

a reply to: underwerks

The real kicker is that bottom picture looks to be a solution that is around $20, and is permanent. Just a metal fob to fit into a notch on the door and the floor.

Retrofitting may cost a bit, but new schools are built all the time. We could at least look forward with simple solutions.

Just got an update from a local. It seems this was domestic related.

None of us are immune to these kind of events. I deal with victims of IPV and DV on a daily basis. In some cultures it is an acceptable practice. Our society is becoming way too desensitized to these events. Even the '#MeToo# movement isn't making a change in that area. In fact, it may be helping with the desensitization.

a reply to: NightSkyeB4Dawn

I agree about the desensitization, but...........what's IPV and DV mean?

originally posted by: TonyS
a reply to: NightSkyeB4Dawn

I agree about the desensitization, but...........what's IPV and DV mean?

Intimate Partner Violence and Domestic Partner Violence. Beating your wife. The lowest humans on the planet.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: JohnnyCanuck

I see. Is that why none of the kids reflected a different viewpoint? We know kids from Parkland had different viewpoints and submitted their statements.

But CNN decided this would only be on their preferred narrative. No kids at Parkland defend the right to keep and bear.

The only instance of that which I saw concerned a kid whose father had rewritten the statement and provided an altered email to deflect the controversy...if I recall correctly.
But like I said, media rarely complicates its report with dissenting opinion...take fair and balanced Fox, for instance.

Anyway, this is the wrong thread for this conversation. This is about Maryland. Let's keep it that way, please. Send some thoughts and prayers, instead.

a reply to: NightSkyeB4Dawn

Not being snarky, not trolling, and trying not to be critical, but why aren't the parents stepping up?

I didn't take your post that way.
I think some of us who are concerned are, as for the others? Who know their reasoning...
Similar experiences growing up as you. I know where my children are most of the time (NOT a perfect parent by any stretch!)
My children are both fortunate to live where we do and not so fortunate in other ways but I DO like that our school system is trying to take a proactive approach and find solutions before something tragic happens.

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan

originally posted by: TonyS
a reply to: NightSkyeB4Dawn

I agree about the desensitization, but...........what's IPV and DV mean?

Intimate Partner Violence and Domestic Partner Violence. Beating your wife. The lowest humans on the planet.

Thanks for answering TonyS. I see the letters so much that I sometimes forget some people may not know what they mean. I should know better because I had someone ask me a couple of weeks ago, "what does LOL mean?"

originally posted by: JHumm
It was a boyfriend, girlfriend,and ex boyfriend.....school safety officer stopped him , it wasn't a school shooting ,it was a shooting at a school.

I want you to repeat the sentence "it wasn't a school shooting, it was a shooting at a school" out loud and I want you to see if you can tell how dumb that sounded.

Sorry OP, I just realized when I put in a reply asking multiple choice questions it’s kind of a subtle way of trying to take over your thread .

I’ll just weigh in and say this instead . I’ve read some details about this shooting and though I still stand by the belief a lot of these shootings like in Vegas, Aurora theatre Sandy Hook etc .. have the trademarks of a false flag written all over them ..

This situation might be different . Some shootings are really just not a conspiracy . Some are just a case of personal disputes gone to extremes ..

I’ve fallen into the trap of thinking every school shooting is a false flag in an attempt to confiscate the guns ..

When I read more details I realize it’s highly unlikely that’s the case ..

a reply to: JohnnyCanuck


Actually Twitter did it also...only anti gun students in their town hall. A Parkland student tried to get an invite but they told him no. After the outrage he created, Twitter is now doing a separate one for him....therefore the town hall is not a debate, but a lecture and an attempt to push an agenda, just like CNN...

www.google.com... ws.com%2F2016%2F04%2F13%2Ftwitter-ends-pro-second-amendment-gun-rights-ad-campaign&usg=AOvVaw0m4NuFijlTSfdvLeaoUzPe

a reply to: TNMockingbird
It bothers me that so many people appear to think that this is someone else's problem.

From what I hear, it is like they are expecting the school, law enforcement, or the government to fix this problem and make them feel safe.

There are more people that realize the folly of putting their faith in male birth control contraception in preventing unwanted pregnancies, than those that realize that if you need to feel safe, you don't get there by making someone else responsible.

We need to make the school, law enforcement, the government, and the perpetrators accountable, but if safety is a concern, the remedy for that is our own hands.

a reply to: DBCowboy

But when the village is Reddit, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and selfies, then you see the problem.

All of which makes my job harder in some ways and easier in others.

I was really surprised to see a news report from CNN. I didn't see how they could have possibly gotten a reporter to the area so fast. Then I realized that they were talking to people via cell phones and social media.

Almost every case that I have had within the last year has had a social media connection in some way. I am so glad that my children are grown. It was hard enough when they were young, being the strict and involved mother, which they thank me for now. If had to parent in today's society, my children would think I was the most evil person to walk the earth, because they would have simple call and receive cell phones. They would not have "smart" phones and the computers would be in the general family area were I would be able to observe what they are doing and who they are communicating with.

With all the information out there about the possible dangers of social media, it still saddens me that so many parents are not aware of what their children are involved in via social media until it comes home by way of an ambulance or a body bag.

If parents want their children safe, they are going to have give up the role of BFF and take up the shield of parenting.

originally posted by: WarPig1939

originally posted by: Soloprotocol
Where's SuperTrump when you need him.?

Yeah because Trump has all the answers. I guess law enforcement get a pass from you huh. Stopping deranged criminals isnt important or anything...

I think they are referring to the statement trump made that he would've run in unarmed to stop the last shooter.

a reply to: NightSkyeB4Dawn

Ours is 7, and it isn't easy. He pitched for an iPad because they all have them at school now. We said no, and gave him an economic argument he accepted.

Thankfully, he enjoys being active so it helps. We can entice him with activities, so he's less prone to demand screen time.

originally posted by: JohnnyCanuck

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: JohnnyCanuck

originally posted by: theatreboy

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan

originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

I agree.

But if we're going to start awarding points to Trump and the NRA because an SRO did his job, that begs the question of how many points do we deduct when an SRO doesn't do his job.

Begging the question is a logical fallacy.

That being said, awarding points over the corpse of innocents is pretty disgusting behavior in general.

But it ok to use the kids from Parkland to score political points for the anti gun lobby?

Why not accept the fact that the kids are pushing the agenda themselves? I mean really...they're old enough to buy guns, but not old enough to be taken seriously when they take umbrage at getting shot? Seriously?

These kids are not driving this by themselves. CNN orchestrated an entire production and gave those kids talking points. The kids are def on board, but they did not organize any of this without professional help. They have the backing of an entire political party. The DNC is fundraising for them.

I do believe that the kids submitted their statements to CNN, who chose the ones to air. Production does not have to mean censorship...unless you'd like to carry the discussion over to FOX.

I think they are equally disturbing in how they relay their respective versions of the news, but CNN deliberately invited the children who want to disarm everybody. That was clearly the message that CNN wanted to get across. They hand picked the children who would go along with that agenda, fed them lines, and put them in everybody’s living room with overly emotional pleas to save the children.

a reply to: NightSkyeB4Dawn

yeah seems he shot his ex and her new bf
www.cnn.com...

The incident began in a school hallway at 7:55 a.m., just before classes started. Authorities say Austin Wyatt Rollins, armed with a handgun, shot a female and a male student. The shooter had a prior relationship with the female student, Cameron said. School resource officer Blaine Gaskill responded to the scene in less than a minute, the sheriff said. Gaskill fired a round at the shooter, and the shooter fired a round simultaneously, Cameron said. Rollins was later pronounced dead. Gaskill was unharmed. The 16-year-old female student is in critical condition with life-threatening injuries, and the 14-year-old male student who was shot is in stable condition.

a reply to: NightSkyeB4Dawn

I think that one of the hardest things a parent could ever do is teach their children that life is hard, to teach their children that you don't always win, that you don't always get a trophy, that bullies do exist and that sometimes you get beaten.


We (as a society) don't teach our children that it's not the "winning" that defines a person, but how they get back up after they've been knocked down.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: NightSkyeB4Dawn

I think that one of the hardest things a parent could ever do is teach their children that life is hard, to teach their children that you don't always win, that you don't always get a trophy, that bullies do exist and that sometimes you get beaten.


We (as a society) don't teach our children that it's not the "winning" that defines a person, but how they get back up after they've been knocked down.

Healthy competition does that. Straight up grading does that. Using a red pen does that.

a reply to: underwerks

these devices range from 20-200 bucks , theres no reason we shouldnt be able to have them in every classroom, it costs more a day per class for supplies than it does for any single one of these that lasts years.

I cant believe (not saying you) that people in this thread are coming up with excuses NOT to deploy these things.

That just shows the agenda they are pushing and they really arent concerned about the kids.

If ONE of these saved a classroom full of kids isnt that worth it?

My god the cognitive disconnect with some people blows my mind

a reply to: SailorJerry

I love this comment.

So smart to raise a discussion about other approaches to the issues involving school shootings.

I also think there is room to discuss metal detectors/backpack scanners (the expense is worth it if it means the Constitutional rights of others are protected), and school policy changes (for example, my son's school prohibits students from carrying bags and backpacks into their classrooms).