The Kennedy assassination records release and the draining of the swamp

originally posted by: SocratesJohnson
a reply to: intrptr

The deep state going after trump and 1/2 of America will cheer for the deep state .

Trump shows the deep state killed Kennedy, those currently deep state, this will take a good portion of their support

Thats absolutely true, as I said above it would be the biggest bell weather to date as to Trumps willingness to drain the swamp. I would think that his popularity would surge. I know I would applaud him for this for the rest of my life and I am not a Trump supporter in general.

a reply to: Harpua
The assertion was that he stood up in the back seat of the following car and was looking around for where the first shot came from when the car surged forward throwing him back into the seat when he accidentally pulled the trigger on his M-16.
Not so improbable as it may seem.

originally posted by: SocratesJohnson
a reply to: intrptr

The deep state going after trump and 1/2 of America will cheer for the deep state .

Trump shows the deep state killed Kennedy, those currently deep state, this will take a good portion of their support

I think Trump wouldn't be behind the Podium if he wasn't playing along, all along.

He's a Billionaire Business man, he's one of them.

originally posted by: CharlesT
a reply to: intrptr

I saw this documentary and made the same assertion, that the man you pictured accidentally fired the the kill shot, in a different thread some months ago. It does seem completely plausible and would explain why law enforcement has gone to such extraordinary lengths to keep it covered up.

The shot that blew Kennedys head apart was no accident.

The show had to conclude it was accidental or it wouldn't have aired.

IOW, more cover up, like you said.

originally posted by: intrptr

originally posted by: CharlesT
a reply to: intrptr

I saw this documentary and made the same assertion, that the man you pictured accidentally fired the the kill shot, in a different thread some months ago. It does seem completely plausible and would explain why law enforcement has gone to such extraordinary lengths to keep it covered up.

The shot that blew Kennedys head apart was no accident.

The show had to conclude it was accidental or it wouldn't have aired.

IOW, more cover up, like you said.

Ya, the accidental shot to the head thing is utterly laughable... but anything to take the heat off those actually responsible.

Ya, and I also agree that Trump is another billionaire working for the other billionaires, he isn't there to upset that apple cart. But then again, he is definitely upsetting some apple carts, so maybe there is hope.

a reply to: Harpua

Reserve 'Hope' you will remain human, have 'Faith' you will be the person you want to be. We can only change our little corner where we are.

I can tell you do, you see pretty clearly.

originally posted by: LookingForABetterLife
JFK Assassination Records released in 2017

Here they are for those of interest in them.

What a crack up, the agencies releasing those documents are the ones behind the assassination. Love the first few:

(Russia Russia Russia)

This is 2018.....it doesn't matter if the Government tells us the truths....we now have them online for everyone to learn about.....the real crux is that the Government will NEVER BE TRUSTED IN AMERICA until the GOVERNMENT gives the PEOPLE the full and compete truths......and because everyone involved had to BEAR THEIR THROATS and become WILLINGLY VULNERABLE TO DESTRUCTION....lol....we know the Russians/Cubans and the C.I.A worked together......so of course there will be direct evidence implicating EVERYONE INVOLVED...lol...this was long term insurance.....lol....today if the wrong data is released it can be made to look like Russia was involved....lol...this is why the sitting President will always be given veto power in terms of what is released....unless the entire story comes out nothing can come out....this means VERYBODY GOES DOWN OR NOBODY GOES DOWN...it is ALL OR NOTHING....always has been.

Any group of pre-teen kids doing a crime together uses the same method of overall generic implication to self-police the group.

IMHO if you are a JFK RESEARCH beginner look for a resource that directly points to the final shot coming from below the Pagoda stairs inside the sewer to the front right lower quadrant of the Limo....because this is the truth...part of it....but this is one part that has been kept silent longer than most......not any ore....so make sure your resource is CURRENT and covers this critical point.

originally posted by: Guyfriday

Finally, Everyone points to "Deep State" when it looks like "Big Oil" was the culprit, and everyone and their dog just took advantage of the events. It seems to me that it was more of a cult that was behind it more than a "Deep State" entity. What does anyone else think?

I definitely think there were some big oil interests in on it in some way. But the "deep state" has always had big business interests as members.

The Dulles brothers started their "toppling" schemes for big business under the guise of national security from the very beginning.

Allen Dulles arguably had more experience plotting and planning complex and murderous schemes than any other human alive at that point. We know he had both motive & means. To hear audio of him during the Warren Commission proceedings is stunning as he transparently steers away from any questions that start to produce fruit.

The following is an excellent read and a damning indictment of the one man who did more to destroy America than any other.

The Devil's Chessboard: Allen Dulles, the CIA, and the Rise of America's Secret Government

This, imo, is the single most important document ever produced to understand exactly what was done to America and the world. You watch this and any scales remaining in one's eye will drop away never to return.

a reply to: The GUT

I definitely think there were some big oil interests in on it in some way. But the "deep state" has always had big business interests as members.

This is a great quote that really needs it's own thread. Which creaed which? Was the "Deep State" created by big industry, or was big industry created by "Deep State" ?

**BACK TO TOPIC**

The JFK event, I feel was very well planned, so your assesment that Dulles (or a Dulles like minded individual) was behind the planning is very sound thinking. The problem is the OSS. After the war members of the OSS went into the wind. Some ended up in private industries, some in continued governmental service, and some just retired. Since we don't know if this was conducted by MIC, USGO (United States Governmental Organizations) or a third party that had a beef with JFK over some personal issue, it will be hard pressed to pull good evidence to the group behind the shooting.

As a nut job that built a card board model of Daily Plaza and tried to map out eye witness accounts as a high school project (geeshs this was decades agos) it became very clear early on that the shooter was in the Dal-Tex Building. I didn't get a good grade since the teacher believed that the warren commision findings were correct, but I did get points for doing my own research. Oh well.

originally posted by: Guyfriday

As a nut job that built a card board model of Daily Plaza and tried to map out eye witness accounts as a high school project (geeshs this was decades agos) it became very clear early on that the shooter was in the Dal-Tex Building. I didn't get a good grade since the teacher believed that the warren commision findings were correct, but I did get points for doing my own research. Oh well.

I find you a very sharp and admirable "nut job" then. Kudos for zeroing in and going for it as a teen. Your teacher gets an "F" for being so easily misled. Although, it was so especially hard to believe such a thing back then.

I see what you're saying about trying to define a particular group. It's not an easy classification. As far as Dulles being in that group, however, I can't see him not being if only for his performance on the commission.

The truth then could've saved so much world trouble that proceeded from that coup, but the truth is equally important today as it would wake us all up to the question of how our foreign policy never changes no matter which party is in office. The shadow brokers need to be brought into the light.

originally posted by: The GUT

originally posted by: Guyfriday

As a nut job that built a card board model of Daily Plaza and tried to map out eye witness accounts as a high school project (geeshs this was decades agos) it became very clear early on that the shooter was in the Dal-Tex Building. I didn't get a good grade since the teacher believed that the warren commision findings were correct, but I did get points for doing my own research. Oh well.

The truth then could've saved so much world trouble that proceeded from that coup, but the truth is equally important today as it would wake us all up to the question of how our foreign policy never changes no matter which party is in office. The shadow brokers need to be brought into the light.

THIS is so critically important in todays highly politicized world.

I find it more than a little frustrating that there is still this left vs right false dichotomy going on. I've wanted to start a thread discussing aspects of how we are being manipulated in to fighting each other over these wedge issues and use terms frequently used by the media to show just how disingenuous this is.

Oligarchs is a good example of how we get manipulated. When you hear the word oligarch, do you think Russia?

Why is it that the ultra wealthy in america are called captains of industry, or billionaire, or CEO or tycoon, or magnate... but when you look at how the wealthy are able to lobby their influence (corporations are people after all), I have a hard time differentiating us from an oligarchy.

Regardless of who is in office we have been seen a fairly constant increase in military spending and a massive amount of wealth surging upward to the ultra wealthy. The wealthy here clearly have massive amounts of influence over the government.

Anyhow... I feel like now more than any time previous in our history, the left and right (if they can remove their own blinders a bit) could see that we are both fighting for the same things and that we are getting wedge issued to death by those in power.

Looking forward to watching that video link, GUT.

There are so many videos, books, websites etc dedicated to the assassination and its amazing how much "smoke and mirrors" there is. Same with UFOs, 911, politics, conspiracy websites etc

lol

originally posted by: Harpua

Oligarchs is a good example of how we get manipulated. When you hear the word oligarch, do you think Russia?

Why is it that the ultra wealthy in america are called captains of industry, or billionaire, or CEO or tycoon, or magnate... but when you look at how the wealthy are able to lobby their influence (corporations are people after all), I have a hard time differentiating us from an oligarchy.

Regardless of who is in office we have been seen a fairly constant increase in military spending and a massive amount of wealth surging upward to the ultra wealthy. The wealthy here clearly have massive amounts of influence over the government.

Anyhow... I feel like now more than any time previous in our history, the left and right (if they can remove their own blinders a bit) could see that we are both fighting for the same things and that we are getting wedge issued to death by those in power.

That's my heart and mind too. Please, please do that thread for all of us---I've been wanting to as well and it just jumbles up inside of me.

This little OP is quite possibly the most important and overlooked thread on the boards in ages.

I have a theory that is polar opposite of mainstream and which fits the macro-template of the historic event like a shoe.

Trying to follow the money and or power will not get you anywhere but caught in a web spun by a dyslexic spider.....there will be no way out once you get entangled and even the spider who spun the web wont be able to extricate you.

The Shooters and their positions have nearly all been exposed.......the truth about Oswald will soon come out....that he actually tried to stop the event that he was stung in a double-play....Oswald was IMHO of the belief that he was working a STING OPERATION and that he was setting up enemys of the USA.....there were shots fired during the event that were intended to STOP the processes....these shots are considered MISSES by most researchers....good men who are American Heros died that day beyond the President.... men who were trying to stop the event.

One may use evidence to pinpoint shooters and positions and one may delineate between different CELLS involved in the macro-template of the event....and one may track the money and determine who how and how much each of these different CELLS benefitted following the money and influence.....

Many people had generic reasons to wish the president be disenfranchised and disempowered....but not necessarily dead....people with money and power enough to entertain assassinating the President of the USA and actioning a Coup de tat inside of the most powerful nation on the planet...sure as hades could have run ANY MAN OUT OF OFFICE IN LESS TIME THAN IT TAKES A TICK TO SPIT.JFK could have been removed from office easily by a group of like-minded people such as those we now know were involved in building these CELLS which operated togther unknowingly to make the event happen.

Possibly one must seperate the causality from the people who actioned the event and those who have been identified as benefitting from the event and of supporting the COVER-UP.They may not be related at all.

originally posted by: CharlesT
a reply to: Harpua
The assertion was that he stood up in the back seat of the following car and was looking around for where the first shot came from when the car surged forward throwing him back into the seat when he accidentally pulled the trigger on his M-16.
Not so improbable as it may seem.

So there was a coverup?!

Sorry but that is stupid. Not the cover up but the fact his own security killed him, accidentally.

I watched the films and pics since I was 9, even saw ruby shoot oswald on live tv.

Magic bullets.

I never saw a pic of that guy with the gun, anywhere.

I do hope he releases everything, EVERYTHING!

How do you shoot from a sewer UPWARDS into the center of an automobile?

Pro tip: The line of sight goes thru the side of the limo.

Also I like how the film of the MC officer dropping his bike suddenly ends at that instant, leaving the viewer open to suggestion. If the shooter was really there, would this film even be made public?

Well, it may have intentionally been made public, just as others suggest, as a ruse or diversion drawing attention to the sewer theory.

I would also think the MC officer would have submitted a report or come forward.....maybe not....?

Anyway, the only place the kill shot could come from is the Grassy Knoll. As members of the public scurried to the GK, I doubt it would have been them running INTO gunfire. Not many people would do that, but it's suggested in most documentaries.

How do you shoot from a sewer UPWARDS into the center of an automobile?

Pro tip: The line of sight goes thru the side of the limo.

Also I like how the film of the MC officer dropping his bike suddenly ends at that instant, leaving the viewer open to suggestion. If the shooter was really there, would this film even be made public?

Well, it may have intentionally been made public, just as others suggest, as a ruse or diversion drawing attention to the sewer theory.

I would also think the MC officer would have submitted a report or come forward.....maybe not....?

Anyway, the only place the kill shot could come from is the Grassy Knoll. As members of the public scurried to the GK, I doubt it would have been them running INTO gunfire. Not many people would do that, but it's suggested in most documentaries.

I agree, the FF Theory is laughable. Shades of 9-11 Troof.

a reply to: FlyingFox


President gets assassinated, by Patsy, patsy gets shot ,the guy that shoots the patsy gets offed. Police officer who looks like JFK gets shot. It would have been so simple, if they had shot Oswald in the cinema like they were supposed to have done.