Charges from Mueller for Russian Hacking may be Forthcoming

a reply to: AgarthaSeed

He could be thinking of indicting Vladimir Putin. Not that anything would come of that unless it got brought to the security council of the U.N. But reports are there are strong indications that the attack was ordered by Putin.

a reply to: theantediluvian

Have some... "music" for the lulz:





Good call, we'll give you 10mins of hate in the pit for this.



Edit: the pit is everywhere!

a reply to: Sillyolme

LOL

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: AgarthaSeed

Then I'm going to call bull on that analysis. A quick search shows that the average download speed in Moscow is 22 mbps.

Yeah that shows it was a "quick internet search". You're mistaken.

My choices on who to believe are between the Democrats, Mueller, the MSM, and Guccifer. Why do I veer towards "trusting" the hacker?

“Ok, so now, now I think that it is maybe Guccifer two-zero, the State Department, or this guy from the State Department, who is handling my case,” he said. “I think it was more like they were planning this. I mean they, this guy from the State Department.”

“So I think Guccifer two-zero is an inside job,” Lazar added. “I think Guccifer two-zero is something made from some guys at the State Department. Some guys from the cyber command of the NSA, and some guys from the Vault, Vault 7 of the CIA.

So there are these guys, you know Pam, I’m in this business for sort of 15 years now, this is my take on this whole. They were setting up something of Guccifer two-zero. Because the State Department guy was asking me, ‘What is your opinion,’ or something like this, ‘what do you say if another Guccifer is showing up?’"

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DAMAGE CONTROL

On June 12 last year, Julian Assange announced that WikiLeaks had and would publish documents pertinent to Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign.

On June 14, CrowdStrike, a cyber-security firm hired by the DNC, announced, without providing evidence, that it had found malware on DNC servers and had evidence that Russians were responsible for planting it.

On June 15, Guccifer 2.0 first appeared, took responsibility for the “hack” reported on June 14 and claimed to be a WikiLeaks source. It then posted the adulterated documents just described.

On July 5, Guccifer again claimed he had remotely hacked DNC servers, and the operation was instantly described as another intrusion attributable to Russia. Virtually no media questioned this account.

I just don't know.

originally posted by: AgarthaSeed
a reply to: theantediluvian

But doesn't this all come back to the fact that any Russians being charged would have to extradited anyway?

It's highly unlikely that Russian authorities would extradite Russian nationals to the US to stand trial, even if they weren't GRU/SVR/whatever agents.

It would put the Russians on notice. It could form the basis for additional sanctions, cause those indicted to be restricted in their travels (lest they get picked up elsewhere), etc. It's also plausible that there are non-Russians involved in some capacity, such as cut outs relaying documents, who might not be beyond the reach of US authorities.

Question:

If this investigation by Mueller is anything but
a "Get Trump" operation there would be a big
difference in the way it is being carried out.

I am not going to point out the obvious
here in this thread, but anyone who knows
much about Counteringelligence would
spot the gaping hole.

originally posted by: watchitburn
Seth Rich wasn't Russian was he?

It also helps if you ignore just about everything Sean Hannity "reports."

a reply to: eisegesis

My choices on who to believe are between the Democrats, Mueller, the MSM, and Guccifer.

You don't have to believe any of them.

Clinton got more votes than Trump Clinton lost because she did not carry the electoral college votes.

They can blame russia,

They can blame whatever the hell they want.

The EC can't be hacked.

a reply to: AgarthaSeed

The speed that the DNC files were downloaded clearly proves that they weren't hacked remotely, but by a local USB transfer

No, none of that is true.

I've debunked this a few times. See my posts here and here for examples.

I'm still waiting for the evidence that has been so elusive. Trolling is not hacking. Have u seen the Chinese internet troll. They are probably 50 times larger than the Russians and David's Brock trolls prob eclipse everyone combined.

originally posted by: theantediluvian
Not a lot of details here really, most of this could be deduced from what has been reported previously, but this is the first whiff of charges coming down the pike in the very near future.

Mueller eyes charges against Russians who stole, spread Democrats’ emails

WASHINGTON — Special Counsel Robert Mueller is assembling a case for criminal charges against Russians who carried out the hacking and leaking of private information designed to hurt Democrats in the 2016 election, multiple current and former government officials familiar with the matter tell NBC News

Mueller's consideration of charges accusing Russians in the hacking case has not been reported previously. Sources say he has long had sufficient evidence to make a case, but strategic issues could dictate the timing. Potential charges include violations of statutes on conspiracy, election law as well as the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act. One U.S. official briefed on the matter said the charges are not imminent, but other knowledgeable sources said they are expected in the next few weeks or months. It's also possible Mueller opts not to move forward because of concerns about exposing intelligence or other reasons — or that he files the indictment under seal, so the public doesn't see it initially.

I'm going to go out on a limb (no, not really) and reaffirm my earlier predictions that there will in fact be charges brought by the Mueller team in regards to the Russian hacking/phishing of the DNC/DCCC/Podesta. Despite what people who follow the cryptic cold reading mumbo jumbo of "Q" may be inclined to think, forecasting some of these things ain't rocket science folks. In most cases, the writing is on the wall well in advance. It also helps if you ignore just about everything Sean Hannity "reports."

If it is what you say it is I love it! Especially later in the summer.

originally posted by: burntheships
Question:

If this investigation by Mueller is anything but
a "Get Trump" operation there would be a big
difference in the way it is being carried out.

I am not going to point out the obvious
here in this thread, but anyone who knows
much about Counteringelligence would
spot the gaping hole.

Spotted it!

Less than two weeks after special counsel Robert Mueller indicted 13 individuals and a trio of Russian companies for “interference operations targeting the United States,” NSA Director Mike Rogers told members of Congress that the Trump administration hasn’t even authorized him to take measures to prevent election meddling going forward.

In response to a question from Sen. Jack Reed (D-RI) about the authority that NSA “mission teams” have to “do something” about foreign interference, Rogers pointed out that he’s only empowered to do something when “if granted the authority.”

thinkprogress.org...

a reply to: Perfectenemy

Lmao. I guess dragging on Q struck a nerve with a true believer. I can't be bothered to answer you in detail but I will say that I almost pity you.

a reply to: crtrvt

Ante might be Q though, possibly just here to keep the hope porn alive and kicking! Wait? Why is my tinfoil head not a hat anymore?

Doublette Grande

a reply to: ladyinwaiting

Dear friend, thanks but that is not even close
to the mark, probably mostly due to the fact
that it is a twisted pretzel of a write up.

Does this mean Mueller is getting to the end I hope.. This is a lot of money and energy to get revenge at Putin for actively not liking someone that didn't even win.

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
Well this thread heated up quick haha. Can see some real passion in here.

Mueller will eventually have to play his cards, I'm curious as to what comes out of this all.... Strange times we live in.

What I don't understand is the emotional investment in Hannity, Q, etc. I mean, clearly everyone has an affinity for confirmation bias, it's perfectly natural, but at some point you'd think people would tired of being played fools by some of these clowns and move on. There are plenty of conservative sources for information who aren't completely unhinged (or full of #).

a reply to: AgarthaSeed

Then feel free to provide the actual numbers.