Putin: Russia’s new nuclear weapons can avoid any missiles

a reply to: Zaphod58

It could depend on how explosive it is and where it hits, but i'm guessing on that one.

a reply to: CriticalStinker

Yeah that's why I mentioned 3-4 years ago Putins advisor or what not, talked about it. It's been ongoing.

originally posted by: ausername
Was just reading, the Russians now apparently have a "nuclear powered" cruise missile with virtually unlimited range, can fly low, unpredictable and undetected and, penetrate our most sophisticated missile defenses hitting even our most well defended areas.

Wasn't this stuff science fiction before this revelation?

As Elizondo said, science fiction is now science fact...

Putin's balls are bigger then any nuclear warhead.

That is some serious posturing, and I believe a necessary and rightful posture. Russia has dealt with a lot of crap from the west over the years, and the west arming terrorists trying to overrun their buddies in Syria, trying re-route pipe lines valuable to Russia...

Well. As has been said numerous times.. you poke the bear..

a reply to: ausername

Both Russia and the US developed nuclear powered missiles and aircraft in the 60s. Both stopped development after they proved unfeasible, and insanely dangerous to everyone, even when not used.

The US had a nuclear powered missile that would have orbited over the Pacific for years at a time, ready to head to its programed target area. They also developed the NB-36H, which carried a nuclear reactor to power the engines. They flew it for almost 100 hours with the reactor active, but not providing power.

Russia had the Tu-95LAL, which didn't fly as much, or as long with the reactor on. They were working on the Tu-119, but it never flew.

What Russia and China are working on now are boost glide weapons. They're launched on an ICBM to get them to hypersonic speeds, and are then released to glide to the target. Most defenses are designed for low end hypersonic speeds, which makes these too fast for them to stop.

a reply to: brokenghost

The plans that I always heard included a limited exchange that would see a small number of missiles used, usually lower yield weapons, possibly tactical range yields.

originally posted by: ausername
Was just reading, the Russians now apparently have a "nuclear powered" cruise missile with virtually unlimited range, can fly low, unpredictable and undetected and, penetrate our most sophisticated missile defenses hitting even our most well defended areas.

Wasn't this stuff science fiction before this revelation?

No.

Project Pluto.

'Murica eff yeah.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: brokenghost

You'd be surprised. A single missile won't trigger a total exchange.

It would according to Putin...

 "Any use of nuclear weapons against Russia or its allies … any kind of attack … will be regarded as a nuclear attack against Russia and in response we will take action instantaneously no matter what the consequences are. Nobody should have any doubt about that."

originally posted by: brokenghost

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
Putin and Trump are putting on a show. Threats of war against a great enemy is how you get your nation(s) to do what you want.

The only trouble is, hoping the Dictators in charge aren't insane enough to just do it. Mad men don't think, as much as they react.

Speaking of, I'm surprised Trump hasn't reacted yet, if this was li'l Kimmie he'd be all over it..

a reply to: ausername

He didn't say it would cause a total exchange. He said they'd respond, just as we would. That doesn't mean a total exchange. It could be a similar exchange, or even a reduced exchange. It all depends on the circumstances.

a reply to: Zaphod58

Any attack on Russia or its allies would provoke an instant retaliation regardless of the consequences might not necessarily mean a full exchange, but once it happens the likelihood of it leading to a full scale nuclear exchange seems high enough to me. He's basically saying his finger is on the button and he wouldn't hesitate to push it.

Isn't Assad's Syria an ally of Russia?

a reply to: ausername

And retaliation is expected and allowed for. Again, it depends entirely on the circumstances, and a lot of other factors. Contrary to popular belief, we aren't sitting here every day with someone's finger on the button, ready for a total nuclear exchange.

If I had a hat, I'd tip it to them. That's actually impressive.

It's refreshing to see egg on the US' face once in a while, we do need reminded we're neither top dog nor the only country on the damn planet.

a reply to: Nyiah

Russia has always been damn good with missiles and energy weapons. Other areas, they have great ideas, but poor execution.

originally posted by: ausername

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: brokenghost

You'd be surprised. A single missile won't trigger a total exchange.

It would according to Putin...

 "Any use of nuclear weapons against Russia or its allies … any kind of attack … will be regarded as a nuclear attack against Russia and in response we will take action instantaneously no matter what the consequences are. Nobody should have any doubt about that."

of course it would. What guarantees whoever launched one missiles won't launch 100 more in the next minutes?

Sweet a new arms race.

and...

can you stop ours?

But can the system avoid lasers?

Which warrior is wisest?
The warrior bolstering their weapons technologies or the warrior that keeps its advanced technologies classified & compartmentalized for a rainy day?

Doesn't matter.

A nuke is a nuke. All of them will kill you no matter how powerful they are. If you think about it, there are so many nukes between the US and Russia alone, the earth would be a total toxic wasteland. It doesn't matter if you can shoot them down or not. Most of them will keep getting through on either side. Defense systems are a joke. If you read about them, you'll find that it doesn't matter how good they are, they still would not be able to stop enough nukes from destroying all life on the planet.

So, a nuke is a nuke, no matter how fast it is. Theirs will get through just as ours will get through. It's a no win to this game.