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originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: SaturnFX
You don’t know anything about these people..
They are from the exact same type of war torn region as all the immigrants you rail against..
In fact literally the only thing you know about them is they are white, farmers and having black people take their stuff..
Barring some racist ideology, how are they different from an Afghan farmer fleeing the taliban????
It makes it obvious that the white part is all that matters to the people who want these, but don’t want any farmers fleeing terrorists from browner regions..
originally posted by: Ursushorribilis
a reply to: trollz
Imagine that? They are doing exactly what white people did to them.
originally posted by: Indrasweb
So, unsurprisingly we have the idiotic "well, the white people did it before so it's fair enough" argument.
It says, in some cases, the lands have been occupied by white farmers since the 1600's. They've lived there 100 years longer than the USA has even existed as a county. The people living there now have absolutely zero to do with what was going on over 400 years ago.
If you think this argument is solid then I suppose if Trump declared that you and your family had to move out of your house with immediate effect, with no compensation, to make way for a native American family, then you'd just pack up and head for the nearest underpass would you? I mean, fairs fair isn't it?
Hell, even more recently, us Brits colonised the states before you forcibly took the lands right? So, you gonna let me have your house? Seems I have a more legitimate claim to it than you?
originally posted by: Indrasweb
a reply to: SailorJerry
I'm not sure how anyone could advocate for forcibly removing families from their homes and offering nothing, essentially making them both homeless and without a job in one fell swoop, regardless of the colour of their skin or what their ancestors may or may not have done hundreds of years ago.
This fixation with attempting to right ancient wrongs by further victimising innocent people in the present day completely boggles my mind. The mental gymnastics involved would be quite comical if it wasn't for the horrific real-world consequences suffered by the victims of this backwards 'logic'.
We live in the here and now and should tackle the issues we see today with solutions for today, not adopt a policy of appeasement at the expense of innocent families and individuals. And that applies across the board, not just in SA.
And really, in Sa, having your home and livelihood stripped away simply for being born white is actually the least of their worries....
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: Raxoxane
Ditto for everyone in the ME or Africa..
The 3rd world sux..
I don’t really want refugees from anywhere. Just pointing out the blantant hypocrisy of those who magically become all empathetic when it is white person..
originally posted by: Ursushorribilis
a reply to: CulturalResilience
Are you forgetting slavery? And how violent it was?
The fact that you result to name calling speaks volumes.