RUSSIANS vs COMEY vs DOSSIER - Which Affected The Most Americans at Election Time?.

a reply to: carewemust

Hilary lost because she has no message and she rigged the primaries against Bernie. Dude she just sucked. She had the biggest effect on herself.

a reply to: carewemust

We didn't know about the dossier before the election.

It's good we're not tested on this material isn't it?

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Gothmog

Thanks but the question wasn't WHY she lost. Everyone knows Hillary was a DOG candidate. (She even barked at one of her rallies, in desperation)

The question was asked , I answered with other....as none of the above had came out in any quantity or quality at the time.
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I never understood the Russian angle for effecting the election. It's just an excuse for the huge letdown for Hillary supporters and MSM. They spent an entire year throwing it in our face that we're idiots and didn't have a chance of getting Trump elected.

The two main factors were the candidates in my opinion. Trump spoke to a lot of people that feel ignored by our politicians and says what most of us don't have to platform to portray to these scumbag politicians. On top of that, Hillary fired us up by being that hated politician and labeling us all "insert insult here".

So I'd say Hillary was the main factor for her own loss. You don't get on stage and insult half the country while running for president. Especially after cheating half of her own party by rigging the primaries against the favored candidate for the left.

a reply to: carewemust

I knew I wasn't going to vote for Hillary or Trump from day 1 of the primaries.

originally posted by: amfirst1
a reply to: carewemust

Have you not seen the anti-Trump ads during election? It was like every ten minutes. No amount of troll can help Trump. Hilary just sucked. She couldn't win against anyone let alone Trump.

We didn't have many Anti-Trump ads in Illinois. Hillary took Obama's home state for granted. And we played right into her callous hands by voting for her overwhelmingly. (Outside of Chicago was for Trump, but the population is much smaller)

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: carewemust

We didn't know about the dossier before the election.

It's good we're not tested on this material isn't it?

The PUBLIC was not aware, but the Dossier was being compiled starting in September 2016. Senate Minority Leader HARRY REID was so mad at Comey for re-starting the Hillary investigation, that he almost spilled the beans in late October 2016.

“In my communications with you and other top officials in the national security community, it has become clear that you possess explosive information about close ties and coordination between Donald Trump, his top advisors, and the Russian government

SOURCE: www.cbsnews.com...

Harry Reid wouldn't go into specifics, but he knew of some rumors coming out of the FBI. What he might not have known, is that FBI/Hillary/Steele/FusionGPS were still in the process of compiling all the lies and preparing to leak them, if it looked like Donald Trump had a chance of winning in the final few days before election 2016. (Thank goodness those Dimwits followed the CNN and NYT poll, and not the reliably accurate IBD/TIFF poll!)

originally posted by: rickymouse
I think the ill acquired Dossier actually benefited Hillary way more than the Russians interfered with the election. The use of that dossier which, contains mostly crap, steered more people away from Trump than the Russian interference gained him votes. In fact, I think that the twisted interpretations of evidence created by media in reguards to the Russian collusion lies actually hurt Trump more than any gain from what the Russians interference gained. Trump lost support from the scandal thrown at him by the Hillary campaign and even from the result of the Russian interference.

Trump won when he shouldn't have, Hillary is not as good of a deceiver as people think, her deeds in the past lost her the election.

They tried like hell, tho.

Thank the Lord he won.

Luke 24:45

I hate to use biblical quotes for something like politics but this can apply.

Make no mistake, Trump is as far from God as you or I.

Eyes and hearts were opened to see the perversion of man's creation.

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: amfirst1
a reply to: carewemust

Have you not seen the anti-Trump ads during election? It was like every ten minutes. No amount of troll can help Trump. Hilary just sucked. She couldn't win against anyone let alone Trump.

We didn't have many Anti-Trump ads in Illinois. Hillary took Obama's home state for granted. And we played right into her callous hands by voting for her overwhelmingly. (Outside of Chicago was for Trump, but the population is much smaller)

lol, "corn fed mofo's" as my buddy would say.

I lived in IL. Still have friends there.

Had way too much fun, tho.

Mattoon Walmart super store and dairy queen, rocked.

There's no doubt that these 3 items caused SOME U.S. citizens to change their vote, or, to not to vote at all. But which of the three (in your opinion), had the greatest effect on the American voter, heading into the Presidential Election on November 8, 2016?

Oh, there's plenty of doubt.

It's really pretty simple.

America wanted an OUTSIDER. We did NOT want a bought and paid for candidate, we did NOT want an establishment puppet. In addition, it became damn clear that she rigged the DNC primary, and this was really her downfall. This kept the Bernie supporters from going her way, and instead, they stayed home (or went to vote for Trump!)

It had zip to do with what the Russians did or did not do. We already knew she was a crook, so an open investigation meant nothing. And we already knew Trump's a creep, so the dossier didn't mean jack either. It also had nothing to do with emails, or Bhengazi, or any of that.

Her collapse during the 911 ceremony didn't do her any favors either (nor did the phoney baloney double used to say "hey, she's fine!"...but most don't believe that anyhow (even though the differences are pretty apparent).

And her rather public anti-2nd amendment stance (at a time when Americans are completely untrusting of government), didn't win her any favors either.....

So, we held our nose, and voted for Trump. We knew we were rolling the dice, but it was still a CHANCE at real change. Sadly, no luck on rolling those dice, but at least we tried.