Enormous craft in 1996

a reply to: EC2749

...because it was too much to process.

Thats exactly the feeling I got. Overload occurs because we don't have any realm of experience for what we are staring at. it 'boggles' the mind, causing deer in the headlights, jaw drop dumbfoundment , leading later to denial, buried memories, arguments.

I lost a good friend over a sighting. We argued about it, leading to a break up of our friendship.

a reply to: EC2749

I have no reason not to believe your sighting. Who am I or others who were not there say you were imagining or making this up? You're certainly not the first witness that have seen the triangle you described. In fact there was a case involving two police officers who witnessed the same triangle.

You mentioned that both you and your husband never discussed it with each other nor told others about the sighting. That indeed is very strange. I and many others would be crowing about it, lol. If I was in your shoes, I would have you and your husband have a session with a licensed hypnotist. I would just tell the hypnotist you had a personal incident and had a mental block. Tell them you just wanted to see if they could help you get a clear picture of why you don't remember the incident.

Strangely, many witnesses who have had close sightings have found out later through the help of a hypnotist, other things indeed happened during the close encounter or sighting.

Good luck to you and thanks for sharing your sighting.

a reply to: EC2749
Thank you for sharing your experience. Last SSP 2015 Conference during the panel discussion, Linda Moulton-Howe retold the story about the Phoenix Lights, she said she was live on-air with Art Bell at C2C when calls started to flood in... it's fascinating! Here, it starts around 59 minutes:

a reply to: EC2749yes

I know what ya talking bout

they somehow shut us up.....at the time of the sighting specially.....big time shut me up when I should have been shouting to the people on the other side of the yard. an Orb going outbound with a MD-95 from Dallas....Eastbound.....twas twice as fast as the jetliner....

I have video of a large triangle with lights I have never shared for various reasons.
One, my wife shot the video with the kids on the back porch. Two, it sounds loud like conventional craft (but could be from military planes tailing it). And three, my kid even calls it a "nuker plane" during the short video. Haha
I was at work and they sent it to me saying they just filmed a UFO. (Knowing me being one of UFO types).
But what I found crazy was the three white lights that are drawn in all the triangle UFO drawings, AND most importantly it is heading south straight towards Stephenville Texas (30 minute drive, or a few minutes in this thing).
I'll attempt to post it, but if my electronics die while doing so, I will head for the hills.

a reply to: EC2749

Hi there, EC2749 -

Welcome and thanks for sharing. I wanted to touch on the idea of not speaking/thinking/discussing the event for a period of time . . .

My most profound experience of a similar nature ( disk as opposed to triangle), was almost 20 yrs ago now and I, also for quite a while, did not share or think much of it. Ten years or so ago during a process painting exercise, I was hit full on with the memories - a very dramatic moment for me.

And then, it seems to have receded again, until a year or so ago, and I have made a conscious effort to keep it in mind.
I've found the more I choose to think of it, the more details emerge...

I know some folks like to try hypnosis, but I've always been wary of being 'led' to any conclusions.

I wish you the best of luck with this....A very cool sighting, for sure. And the chronological proximity to the Phoenix Lights events is certainly very interesting.

Cheers,
Nexo

a reply to: stormcell

Only the F-35B has the ability to hover. It was designed for the Marines to use off of small deck carriers, and small airfields. The rest of them require either a large deck carrier (F-35C), or regular runway. Any type of fighter can use roads to take off, but none of them are hiding under bridges. The average bridge height is 14-15 feet high. The F-22 is almost 17 feet. The F-35 is the smallest of them, at a little over 14 feet, but there's no way they're tucking a plane that expensive and valuable under a 15 foot bridge and risking hitting something.

I saw a large UFO around that time that matches your description. I was in Eugene Oregon and was going out for an evening jog, I looked up and saw a huge object. It was a dark color that muted out the clouds and stars behind it. It had straight lines(possibly triangular) with several blinking lights on the edges. it moved slowly and silently in a Northerly direction. I remember thinking that this would be all over the news and tons of people would have seen it,

A man I used to know many years ago (father of my boss at the time) owned a small plane and frequently flew from Paine Field in Everett WA to Felts Field Spokane WA, of course, flying over the Cascades (following I-90). He was a no-nonsense working man (ex-military) and someone who didn't come across as being someone who would make stuff up. One day his son made some sort of joke about his dad, "Henry", seeing a flying saucer during one of his flights over the pass. Henry with a completely straight face recounted what happened, and I believed him. I don't remember the details, but what has stuck in my mind is that a pilot and no-nonsense kind of fellow had this experience. He is also the only person that ever personally revealed to me an account of having seen a UFO. Henry helped fuel my search for answers- I suspect he's no longer with us on Earth, may he rest in peace.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: stormcell

Only the F-35B has the ability to hover. It was designed for the Marines to use off of small deck carriers, and small airfields. The rest of them require either a large deck carrier (F-35C), or regular runway. Any type of fighter can use roads to take off, but none of them are hiding under bridges. The average bridge height is 14-15 feet high. The F-22 is almost 17 feet. The F-35 is the smallest of them, at a little over 14 feet, but there's no way they're tucking a plane that expensive and valuable under a 15 foot bridge and risking hitting something.

This was European cold-war strategy. Supermarkets were designed to be used as hangers and freeways overpasses were designed to be high enough to be used as shelters.

There were picture of triangle UFO's in france in the late 1950's. Like this one:

ancientufo.org...

This could be viewed from the back in which case the craft is climbing and we see the rear exhausts and a teardrop shaped body. Or it's viewed from the front in which case it is descending and we see an air intake.

a reply to: stormcell

Yes, I know. They still train using roads as runways and parking areas. When our guys head over to places like Estonia, they train in it as well.

a reply to: Zaphod58

Only the F-35B has the ability to hover

No it isn't. You have forgotten The Harrier Jump Jet that has been around since the late 1960's

a reply to: alldaylong

No I didn't. Read the quote I was replying to again.

Stealth fighters and bombers are though to be able to hover motionless through the adjustable engine fans.

I was only talking about stealth specific aircraft, with regards to that quote.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: alldaylong

No I didn't. Read the quote I was replying to again.

Stealth fighters and bombers are though to be able to hover motionless through the adjustable engine fans.

I was only talking about stealth specific aircraft, with regards to that quote.

I would suggest then your reply should have been worded " Only the F-35B stealth aircraft has the ability to hover. "

It saves a lot of confusion.

a reply to: EC2749


wow very interesting i like this thread good luck and thanks until next time!

I worked an air show a while back on an ARFF truck, and I gotta say the F-22 sure appeared to be hovering. It is an impressive looking beast. It slowed down mid field and appeared to be stopped and rotating at low altitude, then the nose came up and it shot off. It is by far the loudest fighter I have ever heard.
We did a walk around with the crew and I was driving the piercing truck with articulating nozzle. They showed me the X to pierce if a fire broke out, then said "don't even try, just stay far away". No telling what kind of kill you dead gas those put off.
a reply to: Zaphod58

originally posted by: stormcell

originally posted by: jordan77

originally posted by: Spacespider
Someone known in the field of UFO research once said.. that the triangle ones are ours and the discs ones are theirs

If they're ours and we've been flying them around for decades, what are we using them for?

Stealth fighters and bombers are though to be able to hover motionless through the adjustable engine fans. Look at the F-35, it has a vertical fan behind the pilot as well as rear engine exhausts that can be directed downwards.

This gives the ability to launch from ships as well as "hide" under freeways.

Sorry, the '35's just don't have the power to launch verticatly with a full load.

a reply to: TexasTruth

Thrust vectoring can do a lot, and makes it a lot more maneuverable, but it doesn't actually hover, like the F-35 does. Good fun to watch though. I got to watch most of them being flight tested from my front porch.

a reply to: EC2749

I believe you. In the early 80's, I witnessed a broad daylight sighting and the ship had to be 300 feet long, glowing as bright as a welding arc. It was silent and fast.

I don't know if there was any missing time, but I was hollering to my Girlfriend and Mom who were nearby, not responding to my screams. Well, maybe missing time, now that I think about it...

originally posted by: nelloh62
a reply to: EC2749

And whatever you do, dont call it a TR3-B

It always just breaks me up when I see this.

To me, when I see it, I INSTANTLY think of hellfire and brimstone raining from the heavens!

It's like the Most Holy of ATS Rules, isn't it?

All it needs is a "Thou Shalt not" before it, and it could become the 11th commandment..