Lets Nuke Mars

in this clip musk says there are 2 ways to terraform mars, the slow way and the fast way. right now we have all our eggs in one basket so to speak so lets take the fast option (which is nuke the poles if you cant watch the vid)

sure we wont have a pristine planet for research but there are others we can noodle around on for millenia once we've established dual residency.

lets get the trumpster to hook elon up with a couple nukes, strap em to a couple falcons and get this process started. when we're ready to set up a colony things should have settled down some already.

a reply to: Emit1

The fastest way to terraform Mars is to nuke the vast resevoirs of water ice hidden underneath its drifting dusts and sands. There's vastly more water than anyone suspected before. Imagine of all of earth's water were buried in the form of layers of dust, sand, and compacted snow. That's the situation on Mars. Nuke that and you've got water, plus a huge amount of atmospheric vapor. It just might make Mars suitable to grow again.

It would be a great loss to astro-archeology but a great gain for lucky humans trying to escape the wreck that Earth will be in a hundred years or less.

a reply to: Emit1

Ever hear about the time they tried to power rocket ships to Mars via nuclear detonations?



Project Orion

Just an FYI to everyone....

As a person whose spent a lot of time in Hiroshima-Ken, I can say 1000 years is a bit of an overestimate...

New housing subdivisions were being re-built within a 1000 hours after nuking Hiroshima and Nagasaki...

Academics have always lied about nuclear fallout and it’s length...

-Chris

and if there happens to actually be living, intelligent life on mars... we can start our first interplanetary war!!!
I'm still not convinced that we would be able to recognize any and all intelligent, advanced lifeforms or that it's impossible for there to be one even in the most inhospitable environment. so, ya, let's go out into space and start nuking other planets willy nilly.. great idea... till we run across one and tick them off and they come back at us!

originally posted by: Namdru
a reply to: Emit1

The fastest way to terraform Mars is to nuke the vast resevoirs of water ice hidden underneath its drifting dusts and sands.

BS!

The Reactor is numero uno.

The beings living below the surface are going to be all pissed off.

Like we haven't done enough nuclear damage to our own planet , that is a good idea.
But who knows maybe a guy with the money to put one of his cars in space is smart enough to make it work .
Who is going to give him the nukes ?
North Korea?

a reply to: Namdru

Suitable to grow again? Can we possibly know what will grow?

a reply to: JinMI

The soil is antibacterial.

And it has no magnetosphere, so its constantly irradiated.

Aside from precious mining projects, maybe, the effing thing is garbage.

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Maybe it is........Maybe IT isn't!


I know I've seen enough sci-fi to at least pose the question!

RE: Lets Nuke Mars

All the DOD has to do is make up a big thing about North Korea having a base on it. Overnight 52% of the public will support turning the thing (Mars) into a glass parking lot. "Problem" solved!

Bet: If we did a fake phone survey we'd end up with something like those numbers!

a reply to: JinMI

Well then...

Oh hell no!


/fin

First, we'd need to replace the magneticsphere around Mars. This is actually doable with the right equipment in orbit. The reason you want to do this, is so that any new atmosphere does not go the the way of the old one: being stripped off by the solar wind because the magnetic field went away.

Nuking Mars to thaw out water: it would take a tremendous amount of nuclear detonations to do this.....and all the while you're throwing up more material into it's atmosphere that will end up making it colder.

That's working harder, not smarter.

You want to melt the ice? Both the CO2 and water? Then let's heat the planet up: mirrors placed in geo orbit that can focus the light from the sun. Safer, you have a lot more control, and you're not throwing a bunch of radioactive crap up into the atmosphere.

Think smaller, not larger: no need to terraform the entire planet. One could easily and quickly terraform much smaller areas of the planet, like domed over craters. You could do these much quicker, and then take your time with the rest of the planet.

originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
RE: Lets Nuke Mars

All the DOD has to do is make up a big thing about North Korea having a base on it. Overnight 52% of the public will support turning the thing (Mars) into a glass parking lot. "Problem" solved!

You are probably right , if the news says NK has nukes on mars then a lot of people would probably believe It.

originally posted by: eriktheawful
First, we'd need to replace the magneticsphere around Mars. This is actually doable with the right equipment in orbit. The reason you want to do this, is so that any new atmosphere does not go the the way of the old one: being stripped off by the solar wind because the magnetic field went away.

Yes. FIRST. Otherwise everything beyond that point is a complete crap shoot waste.

Although I havent followed it closely enough to have seen how to feasibly build a planetary magnetosphere... now that would be impressive!

originally posted by: eriktheawful
Nuking Mars to thaw out water: it would take a tremendous amount of nuclear detonations to do this.....and all the while you're throwing up more material into it's atmosphere that will end up making it colder.

No doubt.

Now that I played the clip, its all scripted for the supervillain punchline. Ok well if he were trying to be the supervillain then maybe they were suggesting it....

You want to melt the ice? Both the CO2 and water? Then let's heat the planet up: mirrors placed in geo orbit that can focus the light from the sun. Safer, you have a lot more control, and you're not throwing a bunch of radioactive crap up into the atmosphere.

Problem there is the thing has planetary scale dust storms that last years on occasion, if I'm not mistaken.

a reply to: Namdru

are the poles the best spot to nuke, assuming we want to use the least number possible to achieve the result?

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

i've heard the theory, i didn't know they actually ran tests and initially intended it take off from the ground, lol