Intelligence Committee approves release of Dems’ rebuttal to FISA memo

a reply to: Grambler

Good. It’s in Trumps hands now. Will he release it unredacted?

Let’s bope...

originally posted by: AboveBoard
a reply to: Grambler

Good. It’s in Trumps hands now. Will he release it unredacted?

Let’s bope...

Trump has said he wont unilaterally release stuff, but will vote to allow congress to do it.

Probably wise, as he would be investigated for obstruction if he did.

Keep in mind, much of the evidence is still being withheld by the fbi, which has been requested over and over and over again but not given.

The dems and media and also will call anyone treasonous that want to see this info.

a reply to: KansasGirl

I believe in chance and opportunity. They will.

originally posted by: AboveBoard
a reply to: Grambler

Good. It’s in Trumps hands now. Will he release it unredacted?

Let’s bope...

Adam Schiff said tonight that the Dim memo has been in the hands of the DOJ and FBI "for several days", before today's vote to release it. His words give the impression that he expects some of the memo to be redacted.

Article - www.cbsnews.com...

The Intelligence committee Republicans worked on their Memo for many months. The Democrats threw theirs together hastily, as more a rebuttal memo. Might contain lots of errors and secrets.

a reply to: Grambler

Not like they had a choice. If they didn't it would have looked very bad for them.
Let's see what trump does with it since he announced tonight that he will refuse to answer questions from Mueller. he could And may just say no.

a reply to: Sublimecraft

I have not seen that they are going to release the FISA memo. Have you seen that?
That's going to require more classified info being declassified.

a reply to: kurthall

They are saying it's full of information. A college dissertation compared to the fourth grade book report submitted by the GOP.

a reply to: Grambler

Gonna keep starting hash tags until they get to where they have to say no? Then they can claim they are not being transparent.
Did you hear that trumps lawyers are advising him to refuse to answer questions from the special counsel? Mueller will be forced to subpoena the president to appear before a grand jury. Season two is already gearing up to be Emmy material.

a reply to: DBCowboy

The material is out now. The damage done. And here we are having to correct the record again.
You've heard that axiom about locking barn doors after the horses have already been stolen?
Of course trump will want those horses put back. Then burn the barn down so that they never get out again.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: kurthall

They are saying it's full of information. A college dissertation compared to the fourth grade book report submitted by the GOP.

IE the Democrats memo will be chalked full of useless information buried under big words and double speak so by the time a person gets to the end of the "dissertation" they are reaching for the Aspirin and a shot of whiskey to numb the migraine it caused.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Grambler

Gonna keep starting hash tags until they get to where they have to say no? Then they can claim they are not being transparent.
Did you hear that trumps lawyers are advising him to refuse to answer questions from the special counsel? Mueller will be forced to subpoena the president to appear before a grand jury. Season two is already gearing up to be Emmy material.

The way the special counsel has conducted itself Trump shouldnt speak to them. I am all for transparency however this special counsel is hunting more witches than Salem.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: DBCowboy

The material is out now. The damage done. And here we are having to correct the record again.
You've heard that axiom about locking barn doors after the horses have already been stolen?
Of course trump will want those horses put back. Then burn the barn down so that they never get out again.

and what damage might that be? Damage to the russia-trump collusion bs narrative? Damage to the FISA system? Damage to our 4th amendment rights?

Democrats claimed Armageddon if the memo was released and just like others times they tried using a scare tactic and like those other times Democrats turned out to be liars - either directly or by omission.

The Times Asks Court to Unseal Documents on Surveillance of Carter Page

WASHINGTON — The New York Times is asking the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court to unseal secret documents related to the wiretapping of Carter Page, the onetime Trump campaign adviser at the center of a disputed memo written by Republican staffers on the House Intelligence Committee.

The motion is unusual. No such wiretapping application materials apparently have become public since Congress first enacted the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act in 1978. That law regulates electronic spying on domestic soil — the interception of phone calls and emails — undertaken in the name of monitoring suspected spies and terrorists, as opposed to wiretapping for investigating ordinary criminal suspects.

Normally, even the existence of such material is a closely guarded secret. While applications for criminal wiretaps often eventually become public, the government has refused to disclose the contents of applications for intelligence wiretaps — even to defendants who are later prosecuted on the basis of information derived from them.

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originally posted by: Grambler

The House Intelligence Committee on Monday approved the release of the Democratic rebuttal to the highly-publicized GOP memo that alleges government surveillance abuse during the 2016 campaign.

"We think this will help inform the public of the many distortions and inaccuracies in the majority memo," California Rep. Adam Schiff, the top Democrat on the panel, told reporters.

The vote was unanimous, he said.

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I am glad its being released.

Funny that all of the republicans voted for the release of the dems memo, and none of the dems voted to release the republican memo.

Yep, but it was the Republicans that were "trying to hide something". Oh and the Republican memo revealing sources and methods was false too. What's being reported is that the Democrat memo actually does and will have to be redacted. The Democrats have acknowledged it will have to be redacted. Then they're going to claim it was redacted for political reasons. They exposed their own plan like idiots. Schiff is brainless.

a reply to: Sillyolme

The material is out now. The damage done. And here we are having to correct the record again.

And truer words by you here have never been spoken.

a reply to: Xcathdra

Maybe a dead FBI agent or two. Shouldn't matter I guess. Trump was ok with the risk so...

Try looking a little further out than what's right in front of you.
Trumps giggling like a little girl who thinks this is some kind of game.
It's not a game. there are real rank and file members of the FBI out there in the field.
He cares not. His only concern is himself.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Xcathdra

Maybe a dead FBI agent or two. Shouldn't matter I guess. Trump was ok with the risk so...

Try looking a little further out than what's right in front of you.
Trumps giggling like a little girl who thinks this is some kind of game.
It's not a game. there are real rank and file members of the FBI out there in the field.
He cares not. His only concern is himself.

Seriously?

You are going redouble down on the "National Security" story after the dud your side dropped with the memo?

Please support your accusation with sourcing.

Why and how would FBI agents lives be out in danger in this specific case?

a reply to: Grambler

I see you're already setting up to call any info in the dems memo a lie.
Good to get out in front I guess.