Intelligence Committee approves release of Dems’ rebuttal to FISA memo

a reply to: Grambler

Schiff blatantly lied again. The FBI didn't find any inaccuracies in the majority memo therefore nothing to correct. Time for him to face the music and dropping the hammer. Hey Schiff what is your connection to the Standard Hotel and the dead guy who allegedly committed suicide? We hear All, We see All.

Good thing they are so moronic that they didn't realized this BS rebuttal will lead to their downfall. Just ask yourself one question. Why did the democrats vote against the memo release and felt the need to write a rebuttal after Schiff always stated that it's nothing? They are not the smartest bunch i tell you.

Coming from the left you can count on it being full of lies half truths and all around anti American propaganda.
a reply to: kurthall

originally posted by: kurthall
a reply to: Grambler


We don't know what the memo says yet. Personally I hope it crushes the GOP memo.

Whatever it says, personally I am sure the usual suspects will claim it "crushes" the GOP memo... you can bet money on that and sure not go broke.

So the democrat memo is all truth and the GOP memo is all lies.

In before CNN!

a reply to: Grambler

Does seam odd .

a reply to: Sublimecraft

Release it Schiff...

... if your past efforts are anything to go by, it will be a total load of crap, built on lies designed to smear someone you personally dont like. But Political value? -0

a reply to: kurthall

I am sure all the republicans voted to release a memo that crushes theirs . Next 4 more memos and an IG report . should have more answers after that .

Intelligence Committee approves release of Dems’ rebuttal to FISA memo

Here's a summarization.

RUSSIA!

a reply to: xuenchen

dilly dilly

a reply to: Grambler

Funny that all of the republicans voted for the release of the dems memo, and none of the dems voted to release the republican memo.

The Republicans voted against releasing it simultaneously with the Nunes memo. And really, how could they justify not voting to release it now? Of course Trump could shoot himself in the foot again and not approve its release. Or, even better, he could redact it, in which case I may just go full-right-wing-truther-Trumper — Madlibbing in whatever I think sounds the most Earth-shattering. (nah)

What I really don't get is the insinuation. Let's recap *exactly* what happened.

Nunes, who fake recused himself from his committee's probe after coordinating with the White Hose to unleash the failed unmasking scandal (lying, saying a "whistleblower" approached him), and who declared himself "completely cleared" of any lapses in ethics after a GOP-led HEC cleared him of improperly sharing highly classified material to the press — highly classified material that they themselves never obtained — only to secretly run his own partisan probe without informing, let alone consulting the minority members of the HPSCI.

Then he had his staffers concoct a surprise memo (much better than surprise press conference al a "unmasking" fail), which btw, he hasn't denied having coordinated with the WH on. None of them actually saw the highly classified material but instead, Trey Gowdy, who doesn't stand by Nunes's narrative, went over it and gave weekly debriefings.

Out of nowhere, Nunes introduces a partisan memo that the Democrats claimed was full of misrepresentations and omitted gobs of relevant info to be deliberately misleading — and demands that they release it. Simultaneously, his cohorts launch a massive influence campaign to hype the document, with sitting members of Congress saying all sorts of bizarre, unsubstantiated things — all of whom are Trump loyalists of course.

Predictably, the intended audience for Nunes's memo ate it up. Predictably, it contains misrepresentations that are apparent, alleged misrepresentations that have been singled out specifically, it's constructed out of 75% Fox News talking points, is definitely missing relevant information and creates more questions than it purports to answer.

There are people right now on this website, claiming that the memo proves that President Obama had Donald Trump wiretapped to spy on him to keep him from getting elected. Nobody from TrumpWorld is correcting them (to contrary in fact). Nunes is on Fox News promising the Trump base that he is going to investigate everyone under the sun unilaterally and produce more memos for their pleasure.

Hannity has more # to talk about and the President of the Unites States, of whom Nunes sure looks like a stooge, is predictably on Twitter claiming "total vindication" and accusing Democrats who don't clap for him of effing treason.

Why on Earth would the Democrats vote to release that memo?

Then the Democrats, who have days to play catch up to Nunes's surprise shenanigans, put together their own memo and say, "okay, if you absolutely have to release this memo, then you should release ours too" — they would have voted for that. (correction: they did vote for it)

Of course Nunes, who could have consulted with the minority and given them a chance to have input, make their own memo to be release along with his, talk him off the ledge — whatever — leads a party line vote to deny the minority.

Why the rush? Why not vote for both? Could it be that he desperately wanted his to come out by itself with as much lead time as possible to maximize the opportunity for his cohorts and the right-wing media to gin up the base without having access to information that would refute the memo and his narrative?

And now his cohorts are on TV (I just saw Lee Zeldin in particular) saying that the minority memo is deliberately loaded with classified information that can't be released because it compromises sources and methods so of course, Trump will have to redact the # out of the memo according to him.

Which of course is a plot to hurt Trump. Like everything that happens.

And did anyone ever stop to ask why a memo was released at all? You read it. Think objectively here, what did it actually accomplish? Nunes doesn't need you or anyone else to do all the investigations he wants as he has demonstrated. He knows that the American people are incapable of getting a full picture because everyone knows that the highly classified source material will not be released and if it is, it will be so redacted we won't be able to anything but speculate about the redacted portions. There will also be room to argue.

If he really thought he was onto some massive conspiracy, rife with malfeasance, Nunes had all manners of recourse available to him that would have been far more effective in terms of actually holding people to account. Instead, he starts this brouhaha in public and...? Announces that he's investigating the world all by his lonesome while daddy Trump calls him an "American hero."

a reply to: Perfectenemy

Schiff blatantly lied again. The FBI didn't find any inaccuracies in the majority memo therefore nothing to correct. Time for him to face the music and dropping the hammer. Hey Schiff what is your connection to the Standard Hotel and the dead guy who allegedly committed suicide? We hear All, We see All.

Watching this weasel squirm around because of the dirt his master has on him is absolutely priceless. They can cry and wine and all they are doing is digging a bigger grave!

#schiff4brains #scaredschiffless #schiffinghispants

a reply to: Grambler

Good now we will see the great rebuttal.

Lol.

Should be fun.

originally posted by: Grambler

The House Intelligence Committee on Monday approved the release of the Democratic rebuttal to the highly-publicized GOP memo that alleges government surveillance abuse during the 2016 campaign.

"We think this will help inform the public of the many distortions and inaccuracies in the majority memo," California Rep. Adam Schiff, the top Democrat on the panel, told reporters.

The vote was unanimous, he said.

www.foxnews.com...

I am glad its being released.

Funny that all of the republicans voted for the release of the dems memo, and none of the dems voted to release the republican memo.

What if Trump doesn't authorize its release?

a reply to: Grambler

It won’t matter...


Stuff from hyper-partisan sources, that cannot be verified is useless...

a reply to: MotherMayEye

He will.

Cause he knows how it would be spun if he didn't.

a reply to: Grambler

I say release everything. If there's nothing to hide, then why worry? The cloud of "confidential information, classified information, national security" is just that. I big cloud that doesn't mean anything any more.

a reply to: elementalgrove

I just think it is hilarious that people think that the Clintons and democrats HAVE ANY CHANCE to be prosecuted..


And if they have no fear of being prosecuted then I doubt seriously they do much squirming..


It has been over a year and they arnt even investigated lol?!?!

BY TRUMPS DOJ..

It is the most obvious case of propaganda and demagoguery since Athens lol..


Blows my mind it is the conspiracy crowd getting all pro-government..

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The memo was probably released for political purposes no doubt.

I dont care, I want more transparency.

Why is the fbi stonewalling the oversight committee at every angle. Why was only one member from each side allowed to see it.

Lets not forget, you left out that the dems also voted to not even allow the rest of congress to see the memo.

The people have a right to see abput possible worng doing by the fbi and doj in the invetsigation.

Of course trump haters would like no scrutiny of the investigators, despite the litany of evidence that comes out to show their bias.

They would like the oversight committees to have no access to evidence, and for us to totally trust the FBI leadership at their word.

Keep in mind, this is the same FBI that bungled to investigation into hillary so bad, that you admit they should have to relook in to that investigation.

Meanwhile, the media and fbi lie through their teeth to say the country would be harmed in a serious manner by the release of the memo.

Gowdy has said he was disturbed by the actions of the fbi in getting the fisa warrant, he just doesnt think it affectes muellers investigation.

Again, I remember talking with you months ago aboyt how stacked muellers team was with people that donated to hillary, or worked for her team, or sent texts saying they liked her and hated trump. And I said, if there was a biased investigator working against hillary, you would be outraged.

And here again, you a furious about nunes. Maybe you now have one tenth of the feeling trump sipporters have with the insane bias agfainst him at all levels; from the media the the intel community.

originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: elementalgrove

I just think it is hilarious that people think that the Clintons and democrats HAVE ANY CHANCE to be prosecuted..


And if they have no fear of being prosecuted then I doubt seriously they do much squirming..


It has been over a year and they arnt even investigated lol?!?!

BY TRUMPS DOJ..

It is the most obvious case of propaganda and demagoguery since Athens lol..


Blows my mind it is the conspiracy crowd getting all pro-government..

I dont even think HIllary is accused of doing anything that heinous in the republican memo.

Even the allegations today that her team fed steele info.

So what?

The problem is the FBI taking that info and using it against Trumps team.


I diont care if trumps or hillarys team got dirt on the other form russians. The problem is if government employees, such as Obamsa fbi and doj, made deciusons to benfeit one side over the other. It is looking more and more like that is the case.

I am far more interested in government corruption than what a failed candidate did.