The FUTURE is NIGH... Be Afraid. Be VERY Afraid!

a reply to: StallionDuck

It is a rather intricate road. As you stated, there is no stopping what is coming. So much of the technology coming out today ties into one another that the accelerating returns are easier and easier to see. I agree with Ignoranceisn'tbliss, we should have an "Accelerating Change" board just to help keep up to date on what is headed our way. As through history many, like those on ATS, will watch and try to warn of dangers ahead so we can try our best to avoid the worst that come with technology. It won't necessarily stop the fruition of said technology, but it may be just enough to avoid catastrophe. The difference in this case is that we aren't just creating tools to help us make labor intensive work easier. We are now in the process of trying to mimic/improve upon the way our brains operate via AI. We also are genetically modifying ourselves, which could lead to who knows how many different species of "human" over time. Then throw in some chipped brains and collective experience becomes a rather dangerous/intriguing life.

that's why i try to stay away from facebook, google, amazon etc. as much as possible.
IMO it's a duty just as the resistance against the nazi and communist regimes back then.
our paedosatanic overlords and this technology is a very bad mixture.

nobody has the right to take our freedom and privacy.
the fact that they try and will eventually succeed is not because TPTB have the money. it's because 90% are sheeple and don't care.
else the guillotines would already run 24/7.

a reply to: StallionDuck

just an opinion i'm not a computer science professional:

whenever you log on to your computer or when you log off, always clear out your browser history. include temp internet files and logs. facebook uses these to figure out who you are. even if you create an account with fake information, the internet files you store have email information, shopping information, banking information, billing information, and much more. also, use incognito mode when using the internet.

facebook can't check out your files if there aren't any there to access.

I wrote these lyrics in 1983
Seem to be about on the mark though my imagination fell far short of what's come to pass

This is the dawning of the age where computers are the rage
They can do everything faster, mankind says he is their master
They have all the facts on you, how much income and what you like to do
Where you've been and who you've been seen with, computers are harmless?
I'll tell you that's a myth, people use them and they will abuse them
Turn your world inside out, keep an eye on computers that's what I'm talking about
No one listened it's the same as always, mankind must live to serve regimes
Only now it's a little bit different because now we live to serve machines
They control all important functions, make decisions by computing the odds
We have entered in to dark ages when our creations have become our Gods

a reply to: StallionDuck

It's good to see this being posted here because people have a few concerns about it, like how it effects brain waves.

5G telecomm radiation the perfect tool to mass modify human brain waves. The ‘zombie apocalypse’ might just be around the corner unless of course, we refuse to comply.

On 14 July 2016 the FCC (Federal Communications Commission) of the USA made space available in the radio spectrum for consumer devices to operate within the 25 GHz to 100 GHz of the electromagnetic spectrum. Nowhere in its document is mention made of consumer safety or well-being. I guess that is fair of the FCC because historically, it is not interested in matters of microwave radiation and consequent thermal and non-thermal effects on the population. Let’s face it, and most people find this hard to believe, the FCC works purely on behalf of the telecoms industries in granting them access to the airwaves, no more and no less.

I chose my house in piece of country with some criteria and one of them was relative "radio silence". Nearest and only in direct line of sight BTS is 2Km away. My house is WiFi free, ie NO WiFi. People are quite surprised I do not have WiFi, because I work for ISP. Instead I did multiple metal data lines (will flip to optics in 2 or 3 years) to every room in house, so use cable and do not bombard me with your EM junk.

This spring I'll repair facade and probably I'll implement well grounded metal net in it. Tin foil hatters think BIG!

a reply to: JanAmosComenius

This spring I'll repair facade and probably I'll implement well grounded metal net in it.

Faraday Cage?

a reply to: StallionDuck

The answer is simple , dont buy into this technology the less you depend on the products and services the less likley you are to be under any influence or control!

just the same as transhumanism , dont buy into the technology dont lease out your body , and dont diminish your humanity !

a reply to: StallionDuck

this is the main reason why im not focused on the fight between liberals and republicans. This post right here shows our Orwellian future and the grave threat of the world of AI. This is what the powers that be do not want people to focus on, so they throw us distractions to keep our minds busy on things that don't even matter.

many are talking about this very subject you mention. But very few are demanding answers from our government.


Though some stories did go mainstream.
Facebook Knows EVERYTHING About YOU!

originally posted by: BotheLumberJack
a reply to: JanAmosComenius

This spring I'll repair facade and probably I'll implement well grounded metal net in it.

Faraday Cage?

Yes. Not perfect but better than nothing. For wide spectrum shielding multiple layers of mesh are needed.

Also it is better signalwise to put some good antenna on roof, receiver near it. Think GSM gateway or something similar.

It is also possible to use "passive" induction ... if you are in shielded area and there is for example iron plumbing running to higher floors, you can get signal simply by nearing your phone to plumbing. It is possible to use this effect intentionally with good antenna and wiring.

I have also large backup battery with AC 230V and DC 12/5V output. It keeps my IT equipment + central coal furnace + emergency lights on for 8 hours.

originally posted by: sapien82
a reply to: StallionDuck

The answer is simple , dont buy into this technology the less you depend on the products and services the less likley you are to be under any influence or control!

just the same as transhumanism , dont buy into the technology dont lease out your body , and dont diminish your humanity !

That looks great on paper but almost an impossibility.

I might not shop at walmart or accept a digital tattoo but it will be difficult for the majority of the people because they can't afford not to shop at walmart and may not know how to live off the land so they will need the digital tattoo that a bank now requires to open a bank account.

See where I'm going?

Once upon a time, when I was younger and oblivious to what may come... I saw the signs then but really had no idea of just how big it could get.

I would work a part time job that paid me each Friday with a check. I would take that check and go down to the local grocery store that would cash that check for me for a very small percentage. I only need show an ID.

As the years went by, I noticed that the grocery store would still cash checks but only up to a certain amount and each check had to have a finger print on it along with ID to have it cashed.

Further on still.... The grocery store stopped cashing checks. Now in that town, it's mandatory to have a bank account otherwise you will not be able to get paid. You're given a debit card and the only way you can get cash in hand is if you go to an ATM and pull it out, of course allowing them to track just how much money you have on hand. If you use your card, your digital trail follows every transaction.

Finally, you simply can't pull 10k (5k in many cases) from the bank without them asking you what you're going to use it for. If you don't tell them or if you get snarky about it... Your account is locked and all your money withheld until the IRS doesn't deem you a threat. That is... Never. To get it back, you will have to go to court and spend many times more just to be heard. If all else fails, you will likely never be able to have a bank account and you will now have to find jobs on Craigs List that pay in cash. Which means.... Good luck! Hope you don't starve!

Kind of make a person feel like rounded up cattle, directed down a one way path to.... something.

Disclaimer: English is not my first language and I certainly misused some vocabs, please keep in mind that even if I don´t know the correct english terms, certainly know what I speak of. Challenge me in german tongue then


I´ll be bluntly honest, most of the OP is overreaching and naive. I did not expect much after the sidekick against "millenials" wich speaks volumes about the mindset but I did read further. No hate, I´m just very direct.

As someone who worked (...yada yada, I said it 50 times at least, go figure I don´t want to bore anyone..) I read your OP with interest. It made me smile a bit, It´s kind of like my mechanic smiles when I rave about technical deatails I´ve read about something but never actually saw it or did it. Just reading input, no real knowledge.

That being said... no blame on you StallionDuck, for being wildley inaccurate, remember that when you read further.

What the OP is really talking about is metadata, statistics and false AI. I like the video titled "AI gives birth to child AI". Loveley naive to the core, this has been the case for years. Only someone who´s not even a tiny bit into this field will be flabbergasted by this.

No it´s not giving birth. It´s "just" compiling a optimized version of it´s own source code. self optimizing it is. This can be on a basic level like adjusting/shifting parameter values and lately, but really not too lately, writing machine code.

Without human help, this will go wrong in most(but not all) cases in my experience. After that hurdle, the performance of said evolved (f)AI needs to be better than the old one, depending on the task.

Let´s set up a scenario to explain how this works on binary systems. We purpose that we do not have infinite memory or infinite paralellism capability. But fast enough cycles to run three AIs of similar demand at once without problems.
We can guarantee that all three AIs are running in parallel and have the exact same amount of resources available. For simplicity sake, or we sit here until tomorrow (depending on your timezone).

I had to set this up that way so I can explain it very simple. We start at the point where the AI has already succesfully compiled a new version of it self, optimized for a special task. There are better methods to to it but here it comes:


a) 1.gen AI instantiates:

- 2.gen AI
- 1.gen AI

b) 1.gen AI tasks both AIs with the same task, it´s goal is to test if the 2.gen can beat the 1. gen.
c) if both have finished, analysis happens on resource usage etc, this is also called metadata.
d) if 2. gen beats 1. gen this happens:
E) important part: 1. gen AI reflects and passes down most of it´s metadata to the 2.gen AI´s info pool. Basically a "brain" download as both share the same interfaces. This is not the data where code is written, it´s the accumulated "knowledge". This copy is NOT overwriting the 2. gens knowledge, as there is none, it´s passed down and stored for later...

Basically that´s it in a nutshell and there is one key component and that´s revisiting old generations now and then both benchmark wise and logic wise. This is extremely important to know and do it correctly.

Now, let that sit a while, maybe re-read it. If you feel you understood the basic recipt, then read further:

Imagine, you are able to not only benchmark two or even three but thousand 2. gen (f)AIs at the same time. This is where it get´s abstract: Imagine, you are able to run 1000x 1.gen AIs, benchmarking each 1000x 2. gen AIs.
You now have a two dimensional array with 1.000.000 AIs all streaming the data and then you find an algorithm that picks out those AIs in realtime that arrive at the solution the fastest.

This stuff is so mindblowing, the sources you use is kindergarden level educational stuff, if even.

No hate.

Addition:

What´s really the problem is, that ATS is not the right place for deep discussion like this. It starts with the correct usage of the term true/false/strong AI and even how you define artifical intelligence.

I myself, most of the times did for simplicity sake not use the correct term. We speak if false or weak AI´s here. I used (f)AI for "false AI" here and there to remind of that.

The basic definition of AI is derived from what we know as human intelligence. As long as you or anyone really digging into this professionally (as in, getting paid) think of AI in that sense you are bound to fail from the beginning.

Emotion, is something you can really teach or program. Everyone, and I mean everyone who thinks that we can

a) control AI
b) teach moral to AI (haha, define moral )

and that
a) true AI will give a # about (what it determines) unimportant parameters once it has homed in on a task.

Math is cold, it has no emotions. But it´s true, you really should all be afraid. This is the real deal when it comes to doom porn. Just not the common scenario like terminator/matrix and such. AI will mess it up without hard feelings or intent to decimate humans. It will just blatantly kill us all either because of a bug, shifted bit or it makes a blatant mistake, to obvious.

THAT, brings me to another keyword: Hive AI

Rigetti Computing has a 19-qubit computer that hooks up to a conventional one. They are marketing the quantum device for machine learning.

Even at this very modest start of quantum computing they are using for "quantum machine learning" which allows the quantum part to do sorting or pattern recognition since the data is set up for matrix math anyways.

In the early ’90s, Elizabeth Behrman, a physics professor at Wichita State University, began working to combine quantum physics with artificial intelligence — in particular, the then-maverick technology of neural networks. Most people thought she was mixing oil and water. “I had a heck of a time getting published,” she recalled. “The neural-network journals would say, ‘What is this quantum mechanics?’ and the physics journals would say, ‘What is this neural-network garbage?’”

Today the mashup of the two seems the most natural thing in the world. Neural networks and other machine-learning systems have become the most disruptive technology of the 21st century. They out-human humans, beating us not just at tasks most of us were never really good at, such as chess and data-mining, but also at the very types of things our brains evolved for, such as recognizing faces, translating languages and negotiating four-way stops. These systems have been made possible by vast computing power, so it was inevitable that tech companies would seek out computers that were not just bigger, but a new class of machine altogether.

QuantaMagazine.org - Job One for Quantum Computers: Boost Artificial Intelligence.

The rest of the article explains neural networks, supervised and unsupervised machine learning, and why a noisey quantum device is not that much an issue. They also throw out the anchor on racing forward too fast least somebody screams, "quantum AI! Run to the hills!" It is a very good read for those curious about quantum computing and "AI".

That is not the near future, that is available, right now, today! Remember to teach your kids about quantum computing or someone else will!

originally posted by: TEOTWAWKIAIFF
That is not the near future, that is available, right now, today! Remember to teach your kids about quantum computing or someone else will!

emphasis added

Good one . I see you saw my post and got the message (matrix math, qubits). Microsoft released it´s Quantum Development Kit lately. Now it´s available for the masses and I expect the next generation to be WORLDS beyond the starting point earlier generations had.

I mean, 90-2000 youth with access to mailinglists and then sites was a HUGE boost to the generation before, typing in programs from a sheet of paper.

I know expect there will be a whole different way to "program" (obsolete word) machines. 80s, sheet of paper, 1990-20??, download and digital helpers (think intelli sense type of assistance, internet, false AI)

20??+: No need to program anything and if, just deliver the concept to the machine, get the result.

originally posted by: JanAmosComenius

I have also large backup battery with AC 230V and DC 12/5V output. It keeps my IT equipment + central coal furnace + emergency lights on for 8 hours.

Do you use overvoltage protection and if (I hope) where do you sink it towards? Is your farraday cage on the same potential as your overvoltage protection sink?

If yes, you will be killed by lightning strike if it hit´s, not because of the cage but because of the volage potential between your feet if the floor is connected to the farraday cage (think about it, it´s impossible to not have the floor connected to the cage. You would have to stand on a mesh and hope for the best that the cascaded ohms do not allow a high enough potential build up between your feet. This is where the correct type of mesh starts...

That, or I misunderstood your system

a reply to: verschickter

The big thing when I was growing up was to have a Developer Environment. Code is auto-highlighted, tasks like saving to the repository (another big thing!), and compiling were integrated together in one step, etc. I know it is still done but languages even approaches have changed. Now you have drag and drop pieces that you label, like text boxes, or buttons. People just google what they need anymore! Next will be something like Tom Cruise standing there manipulating content while the back end stuff written... what am I saying... there will be no programming! All will be data and then just methods of viewing it! Everything, all pieces of data, there to mess with as fits your requirements. Much like Hesse's Glass Bead Game. We already have internet stars! Next, massive storage. And quantum machine learning... everything being tailored to your whims... gee, maybe that is kind of scary!! What would be your life and what would be The Corporation's version?

Hehehehe sry ... just too awesome how the profiling works. Same thing happend to me several times.

Just stay out of f#book . a reply to: DeepImpactX

a reply to: StallionDuck

Makes me wonder if authorities will actually go after the terrorists when they start showing signs of terrorism on social media if this is implemented.

a reply to: SR1TX

You also think "the sides will get ripped off by a wave" .... Because you run an ISP and know about 5g and brain computer interfaces, but have no idea what a trimaran is or that "the sides" are called outriggers and that humans have literally been building such things for a couple Millenia...