Astonishing evidence of Atlantis kept from the public

originally posted by: Titen-Sxull
a reply to: andre18

I watched five of the videos and I didn't see one lick of evidence about Atlantis.

What we have is a Graham Hancock fanboy wildly speculating about a conspiracy for which he presents no evidence. For someone brave enough to put giant titles like 'TEXTBOOKS DEBUNKED' he sure spends a lot of time just asking questions and speculating and almost no time at all presenting actual evidence of anything.

In particular I'm bothered by the tenuous connections these sorts of amateur internet archeologists draw between megalithic sites and pyramids. The pyramids at Giza were built somewhere around 2500 BCE while many of the pyramids in Mexico were built in the common era (AD). Many of these sites were built thousands upon thousands of years apart, others are hotly debated as to whether they are manmade sites at all (Gunung Padang site, Bosnian pyramids, Yonaguni, etc).

You can't just dismiss these debates as part of the conspiracy. Reconstructing the past based on pottery shards and raised stones isn't exactly easy.

Why would an archeologist cover up evidence of an advanced civilization? Surely rewriting history is EVERY SINGLE ARCHEOLOGISTS DREAM! Are they all in on it? Are they blinded by what they learned in school? Or are they perhaps, like all scientists, flawed but well educated humans doing their best to analyze the evidence and place it in its proper historical context?

Whenever he talks about their being a mainstream scientific conspiracy I just have to cringe. Scientists are human yes, they have biases for sure but we can't just dismiss their findings out of hand because we want to believe something different. We also can't just shoehorn in whatever desired conclusion we have based on a mystery (argument from ignorance).

How did they build this? Well let me just shoehorn in my favorite pet theory even if it doesn't make a damn bit of sense.

"Come on bruh, how'd the Egyptians carve all these stones bruh, you REALLY think they did that without modern tools bruh?" - The Spirit of all Pseudoarcheologists

I don't know, maybe they did, maybe I give our ancestors credit and don't think they needed aliens or atlanteans to learn how to accomplish amazing things.

A global cataclysm 13000 years ago doesn't explain why pyramids are in Mexico AND Giza but were built thousands of years apart. Atlantis doesn't make sense as a connection when Gobekli Tepe is so damned old while something like Angkor Wat was built in the 1100s CE.

Also similarities in building styles are easily explained away. There are only so many structurally sound shapes of stone you can build in. In one video he uses trapezoidal doorways as "evidence" of the lost civilization, it's grasping at some very loose straws to say the least. It makes sense that civilizations made of human beings are going to come up with similar strategies and shapes to build in and the fact that they came up with them separated by thousands of years and thousands of miles is evidence AGAINST a global advanced civilization if anything.

There's nothing wrong with keeping an open mind and looking into these things but the idea that Jimmy here is some kind of expert with mind-blowing evidence of a grand conspiracy about Atlantis seems a bit premature given the "evidence" presented here.

Kinda hard to cash in on that DREAM when you can’t get a grant to dig because your goal is counter to the status quo.

It doesn’t even have to be a nefarious or mystical reason for the powers that be (how long as the current head of Egyptology been in charge?) to just want to maintain the status quo instead of admit that they’re not the seat of modern civilization and concede to history being re-evaluated and rewritten. Just my opinion.

a reply to: andre18

This guy seems like he really did his homework! Not all YouTube videos should be swept under the rug. Sometimes it's the only outlet to question possible cover-ups, government corruption and to help make the general population start questioning the disinformation that's being fed to us.

I remember the one particular documentary that showed a flooded chamber blocking the supposed "Hall of Records." No more information about this chamber was released to the public. The chamber was later drained. So why not a follow up documentary and video about this chamber and what was discovered? This is par for the course for a lot of earth shattering discoveries.

I believe there are a lot of unnatural structures and phenomenon on this earth and in space that have been kept secret from the public. It should make the world population upset to think a select minority has total control over what they think the world should know.

originally posted by: blujay
a reply to: andre18

Eventually a huge announcement will come out of Egypt that will rock history to it's core. Wait till they discover the miles deep tunnels and more underground cities. I've been waiting forever for it to come out.

After Atlantis fell, most of those who survived had to live underground until the surface was livable again. They (we) emerged from under the pyramids.

Some of the pyramids were built using non physical means/thought.

Eventually a huge announcement will come out of Egypt that will rock history to it's core. Wait till they discover the miles deep tunnels and more underground cities. I've been waiting forever for it to come out.

Dont hold your breath on that.

Isr ael says it destroyed Gaza attack tunnel under Egyptian border

originally posted by: AdmireTheDistance
Well gee, if some youtuber says it, it MUST be true!

Some You Tuber said that the Philadelphia Eagles won the Super Bowl last night. I guess that's not true and the Patriots won again? Just goes to prove what you said is true - everything on YouTube is a lie.

a reply to: andre18

Atlantis you say ...It may be more important anchoring the time frames between what may have been Atlantis and what came afterwards . The who what and when that was after them is the pieces we need to sink into the proper context . After that has been established then Atlantis can be viewed from the remains we find underwater for the most part,and what was built on top of .
eta ...bringing in a Biblical context is important . Rather then stones speaking we can use past words to filter into the narrative ...

originally posted by: AdmireTheDistance
Well gee, if some youtuber says it, it MUST be true!

I wish that I had a big, red, flashy "PROOF!!" text that I could overlay
on my posts, so that it would settle the matter, and no logical
assessment was even necessary.

I'll have to watch the vids, but I'm automatically pretty skeptical ol' Jimmy is an expert in all of these different civilizations. Typically, one specializes to become said "expert". Also, it has been shown how the ancient Egyptians cut their stone blocks with tools of the time, so this didn't require any kind of unknown tech.

Though I am also curious as to how he's aware of rooms inside structures that mainstream archeologists are unaware of. See, automatically gets up my "it's fishy" meter.....

I'm not sure why anybody would hide evidence of Atlantis when if it existed it would be a veritable boon to the archaeological world and result in lots of money being sent in that direction. It would be like really finding, for sure, King Arthur's castle and round table.

a reply to: andre18

Great thread andre the sand clearing of the Giza plateu in the 1920s is a area to look into

s&f

a reply to: Titen-Sxull
"Why would an archeologist cover up evidence of an ancient advanced civilization?"
Well many feel, myself included, that there's a good basis for considering such a "cover up".
Firstly there are an innumerable amount of cases where efforts to discredit are immediately hoisted upon new findings that appear to stray from the accepted narrative.
For example:
Ruth Shady Solis, a Peruvian archeologists who discovered Caral in the Supe valley of Peru.
She dated this site to 2700 bc and was met with criticism and doubt for many years until, through carbon dating various weaved baskets, cotton and other organic items, these dates were confirmed.

The resistance came because they challenged various accepted narratives. One being the obvious age of a highly developed urban city which would be 1000 years older than Machu Picchu and existing prior to the pyramids of ancient Egypt. In South America!
Another challenge was to complete lack of any evidence of a warlike culture, in fact an apparent lack of any resemblance of warfare at all!
This challenges the accepted narrative that only a fear of war would motivate a culture to develop such a city.
Despite decades presenting her findings, criticism and dismissal have been par for the course.
Why?
Perhaps a many have suggested, any evidence of advanced civilization developing earlier than the accepted 6000yr period great challenges the accepted narrative that binds much of our current world view and control mechanisms.
Primarily the strangle hold manipulated through the Abrahamic and eastern faiths. If advanced civilizations pre-existed these "belief systems", then their whole system could collapse!
Therefore it is very likely and understandable how the existing narrative can be maintained.
We are conditioned to accept the opinions of a newly graduated archeologist over someone who has spent decades of their lives, small fortunes of their own money and resources in research and study.all the whileand dealing with immense scorn and ridicule.
Like many other avenues of scientific study, the funding goes to those who support the accepted narrative. Challenge it and lose accreditation, lose funding and open yourself up to the scorn & ridicule.

Similar to the movie The Island starring Ewan Mcgregor & Scarlett Johansson.
It's about people who are cloned & kept in a large underground facility where they are told that the outside world has been destroyed by nuclear disaster. To be protected, they are given a "narrative" to accept. Anyone challenging that narrative is mocked ridiculed or otherwise felt with.

Is it possible that TPTB similarly need to maintain their narrative of our existence or risk losing the control which they have maintained for so long?

I should keep track of the hundreds of times that I've come across someone proposing an alternative view on history, medicine, health, spirituality or countless other accepted narratives, only to be quickly suppressed.... think the father character from the movie Lorenzo's oil. A true story of a fathers relentless effort to try and find a cure for his son's debilitating disease, only to be shunned scorned feared and then finally honored upon finding a highly effective treatment.
I digress!
This subject matter is very fascinating to me and the fear & doubts are understandable when taken in context of the control system that we operate in.

JHappi

a reply to: Thorneblood

but maybe the people who own the sugar industry or others would lose money if "secret" contained within revolutionised the world !

just a thought

originally posted by: Gazrok
I'll have to watch the vids, but I'm automatically pretty skeptical ol' Jimmy is an expert in all of these different civilizations. Typically, one specializes to become said "expert". Also, it has been shown how the ancient Egyptians cut their stone blocks with tools of the time, so this didn't require any kind of unknown tech.

Though I am also curious as to how he's aware of rooms inside structures that mainstream archeologists are unaware of. See, automatically gets up my "it's fishy" meter.....

Smells more bovine than piscine to me.

Harte

originally posted by: Blue Shift
I'm not sure why anybody would hide evidence of Atlantis when if it existed it would be a veritable boon to the archaeological world and result in lots of money being sent in that direction. It would be like really finding, for sure, King Arthur's castle and round table.

Find it and you're the most famous archaeologist in the history of the field.
You could write your own ticket, and wouldn't have to rely on the paltry stipend archaeologists receive for their work any more.

But the ignorant don't even consider that fact. The truth is, they think - and often aver - that archaeologists are handsomely paid.

Harte

a reply to: CajunMetal

That would be all well and good IF the only evidence that this global civilization existed was contained in known well-studied sites that are notoriously hard to get permission to excavate. But then if that were the case it wouldn't be much of a GLOBAL civilization would it? I don't doubt that there are archeological mysteries that go unsolved because of bias and scientists being stubbornly dependent on the current paradigm but a truth this big shouldn't that hard to blow out of the water IF it was indeed a global civilization.

Theories like this don't get traction because they rely so heavily on highly speculative leaps in logic, the sort of connect the dots thinking that isn't indicative of good science. Just look at the videos in the OP, tons of speculation and question begging with no real evidence presented.

It may take the actual scientists a good long time to admit that they're wrong but I suspect they're more likely to do their due diligence before reaching conclusions than Jimmy here is.

I read a book from David Hatcher Childress a few years ago from his lost World Series. He traveled through South America and explored the pyramids and lost civilizations, he compared the pyramids to those of Egypt and China. Throughout the book he speculated about previous civilizations world travels and how he witnessed evidence of highways in south and Central America. I was intrigued with the book. He also spoke of suppressed information and how the universities and specialists refused to look at his evidence. Someone who was an Egyptologist refused to look at his findings because they would not accept a connection. I would venture to Guess a lot of what I read is in these videos.

a reply to: andre18

I watched 6 of the video's and the most interesting by far is the hatch in the sphinx head. They really do not want a lot of this information out if you have to dig and dig to find out hard facts like this.

a reply to: jhappi

Discrediting a finding and a "cover up" are two extremely different things.

Good science is in the business of falsifying ideas in hopes that the truth will rise to the top. If your findings withstand the scrutiny and turn out to be correct more power to you but it's still very much necessary to try and falsify them at first. A cover up on the other hand is a concerted effort with deceit, not discovery, as its main goal.

I have no doubt that bias and narratives do obscure the path to the correct answer but the idea that there is a conspiracy or a cover up is a bit far-fetched. If the evidence for this civilization is as widespread and self-evident as folks like Jimmy suggest it would be impossible to suppress forever unless you assume that ALL mainstream archeologists are sinister and deceptive in their intent and not operating in good faith as scientists.

It is true that it can take a long time for the correct view on something to be vindicated and who knows maybe the global civilization theory will one day be but I don't see any evidence in these videos that convinces me of either the civilization or the supposed cover up.

originally posted by: InhaleExhale
a reply to: andre18

The title of your thread is
Astonishing evidence of Atlantis kept from the public

can you highlight what that is?

Sure thing! As it's well known Atlantis is the ancient civilization that presumably predates our modern understanding of human history. Any evidence pointing towards ancient civilizations having a connecting core structure indicates atlantian themes and so these videos describing the falsities of egyptologists as they hide truths of human history, the history they are keeping under the Veil, is based on a narrative of history that the past 6000 years of humanity had earlier beginnings and undermines the modern narrative the gives modern Global culture meaning.

And so all evidence pertaining too Atlantis presented in this thread, is from the connection between cultures where has it gone unspoken in academia, the secrecy of ancient monuments being kept from public view, the lack of archaeologists stepping forward with new ideas as to how the pyramids were built since the current theories remain impractical and have even been proven so. The underground cities that allude to city city sized bunker like dwelling serving a practical use for impacts from the sky, the evidence of an asteroid hitting the North American ice shelf causing an ancient flood, and the ancient monuments that were too heavy for the cultures claimed to have built them.

Is there anything new, evidence wise, that shows Atlantis existed as an actual place and what is the evidence that its being kept from the public?

The evidence is the colonies of what was left from atlantis, that grew into these ancient cultures, as well as what was left behind from them in the from of a legacy of monuments.

I'm just glad we're talking about something different for a change.

Ancient mysteries are my bread and butter.