Just Breaking! Russian SU-25 Bomber Shot Down Over Syria

a reply to: JBurns
If it is who Russia claims, they got weaponry from the US.

originally posted by: Feltrick
a reply to: Violater1

According to DEFCON Warning System on Twitter, Russian Ministry of Defense claims Jabhat Al-nusra used a shoulder fired missile to shoot down the SU-25.

Who thinks that the missile was US made...

More than likely a Russian or Chinese MANPAD. The region is awash with them

Footage of the MANPAD being launched against the Su-25. At the end of the video is footage from the group of a MANPAD they claimed to have captured from the YPG. The MANPAD is a Russian SA-18.

originally posted by: JBurns
a reply to: aethertek


It was radical Islamic terrorists, who likely stole the US weaponry. This is exactly why banning weapons doesn't help. As you see, these amateurs had no trouble acquiring a SAM system of some sort.

OTOH, the number of "liberals" on here advocating for WWIII would be amusing if it weren't so damned hypocritical.

if the info is correct:

originally posted by: Feltrick
a reply to: Violater1

According to DEFCON Warning System on Twitter, Russian Ministry of Defense claims Jabhat Al-nusra used a shoulder fired missile to shoot down the SU-25.

it turns out al-Nusra is controlled like IS/AQ are by the USA...
if al-Nusra rebel-Anti-Assad fighters are responsible then the USA gave the shoulder-fired-missile to them....


from what I gleaned from sources.... the SU-25s conducted 20 some raids on Rebel forces in the hours before the Russian plane was shot down... so evidently the al-Nusra got permission by the USA to use the locked up military hardware because they were getting creamed by the Russians SU-25s


Wonder if the Russians will demand War-Crimes for the mangled fighter pilot that got savaged by the animals fighting both Syria and all non-Muslims





this just reported ->

Breaking: Russia Retalliates Cruise Missle Strike On Turk Rebels' Russia fires several cruise missiles into Northern Syria at the Turkish backed Rebel groups that shot down Russian su-25 fighter jet

link at steve quayle web site



www.youtube.com...
a 2:02 video explaining whats going down in the Area of Masaran look on the map I supplied earlier
you see the tiny plot of land in that rebel controlled zone in Syria... that tiny light purple toe sized plot is controlled by ISIS not al-Nusra and might be the reason all the rebel YouTubes have all that shouting of Allahu Akbar !!!

~~~~~I think ISIS holdouts have Man-Pad missiles they covertly got/stole from USA arsenals

originally posted by: Violater1

originally posted by: Wide-Eyes
a reply to: Violater1

Probably Turkish forces. This is extremely worrying as Turkey are in NATO.

Yes, the last time the Turks shot down a Russian jet, was 2015. It had penetrated about 2 Km within the Turkish country. Putin didn't respond because he knew the pilot messed up. BUT, this is much different!

The pilot didn't mess up. Syria considers Hatay as Syrian territory. The pilot flew into Hatay because SAA supplied the map.

originally posted by: muzzleflash
a reply to: Violater1

The Frogfoot is a slow aircraft, and it is ancient by modern standards (it's a 40 yr old + design).

Even rudimentary AA poses a threat to it if it's deployed recklessly.

In fact I'm surprised more of them don't get shot down.

Su-25 is not that old. It's newer than A-10.

The pilot was a former Ukrainian air force Su-25 pilot from Crimea who immigrated to Russia in 2014 following the Crimea annexation.

The group that shot it down and killed the pilot is Jaysh Nasr, a former US trained and armed FSA group.

originally posted by: tommyjo

originally posted by: Feltrick
a reply to: Violater1

According to DEFCON Warning System on Twitter, Russian Ministry of Defense claims Jabhat Al-nusra used a shoulder fired missile to shoot down the SU-25.

Who thinks that the missile was US made...

More than likely a Russian or Chinese MANPAD. The region is awash with them

Footage of the MANPAD being launched against the Su-25. At the end of the video is footage from the group of a MANPAD they claimed to have captured from the YPG. The MANPAD is a Russian SA-18.

The MANPADS is ex Bulgarian or Romanian Soviet made SA-18 Igla. A missile no longer used by Russian army.

syria.liveuamap.com...

i find this constant update map of Syria very worthy of Saving...to follow news on events & just where in Syria the event is happening

originally posted by: St Udio


syria.liveuamap.com...

i find this constant update map of Syria very worthy of Saving...to follow news on events & just where in Syria the event is happening

It's very slow and not accurate. Syria civil war map is much better.

syriancivilwarmap.com...

originally posted by: ziesupsol
The pilot was a former Ukrainian air force Su-25 pilot from Crimea who immigrated to Russia in 2014 following the Crimea annexation.

Then he died a traitors death.. id call it even.

Dear ATS Readers, Writers,

a reply to: Feltrick

Thanks Feltrick, and despite many people probably disagreeing with you, you do bring up a valid question!

Mighty convenient to distract from the Memo garbage going on.

And which group of "rebels" did this deed? Was it a USA made missile?

Sad that the pilot was executed... and will only add fury to any response, and it won't be forgotten in the future how this pilot was "treated" after being shot down.

The points others make about Turkey and NATO are valid....

Way too many talking heads in halls of power are just dying for a great big war again...sigh..

"We" should have never messed with Syria in the first place, or the middle east in the first place... argghhhh

This damn PNAC plan and it's blowback will kill us all if it isn't stopped.

It never ends it seems.

Pravdaseeker

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: ziesupsol
The pilot was a former Ukrainian air force Su-25 pilot from Crimea who immigrated to Russia in 2014 following the Crimea annexation.

Then he died a traitors death.. id call it even.

He is ethnic Russian, not ethnic Ukrainian. It's his freedom to immigrate to Russia.

originally posted by: tommyjo

originally posted by: Feltrick
a reply to: Violater1

According to DEFCON Warning System on Twitter, Russian Ministry of Defense claims Jabhat Al-nusra used a shoulder fired missile to shoot down the SU-25.

Who thinks that the missile was US made...

More than likely a Russian or Chinese MANPAD. The region is awash with them

Footage of the MANPAD being launched against the Su-25. At the end of the video is footage from the group of a MANPAD they claimed to have captured from the YPG. The MANPAD is a Russian SA-18.

If this video is accurate and the MANPAD was from a captured YPG on the Hamam front. YPG, The People's Protection Units is a mainly-Kurdish militia in Syria and the primary component of the Democratic Federation of Northern Syria's Syrian Democratic Forces. Several western sources have claimed that YPG is the "most effective" force in fighting ISIL in Syria. So to wrap it up, ISIS captured Russian supplies and shot down the SU-25. Russian chickens have come home to roost.

originally posted by: pravdaseeker
Dear ATS Readers, Writers,

a reply to: Feltrick

Thanks Feltrick, and despite many people probably disagreeing with you, you do bring up a valid question!

Mighty convenient to distract from the Memo garbage going on.

And which group of "rebels" did this deed? Was it a USA made missile?

Sad that the pilot was executed... and will only add fury to any response, and it won't be forgotten in the future how this pilot was "treated" after being shot down.

The points others make about Turkey and NATO are valid....

Way too many talking heads in halls of power are just dying for a great big war again...sigh..

"We" should have never messed with Syria in the first place, or the middle east in the first place... argghhhh

This damn PNAC plan and it's blowback will kill us all if it isn't stopped.

It never ends it seems.

Pravdaseeker

Jaysh Nasr did it. It is a group formerly supported by the US. It is a hardcore jihadist group aligned with Qaeda.

originally posted by: Violater1

originally posted by: tommyjo

originally posted by: Feltrick
a reply to: Violater1

According to DEFCON Warning System on Twitter, Russian Ministry of Defense claims Jabhat Al-nusra used a shoulder fired missile to shoot down the SU-25.

Who thinks that the missile was US made...

More than likely a Russian or Chinese MANPAD. The region is awash with them

Footage of the MANPAD being launched against the Su-25. At the end of the video is footage from the group of a MANPAD they claimed to have captured from the YPG. The MANPAD is a Russian SA-18.

If this video is accurate and the MANPAD was from a captured YPG on the Hamam front. YPG, The People's Protection Units is a mainly-Kurdish militia in Syria and the primary component of the Democratic Federation of Northern Syria's Syrian Democratic Forces. Several western sources have claimed that YPG is the "most effective" force in fighting ISIL in Syria. So to wrap it up, ISIS captured Russian supplies and shot down the SU-25. Russian chickens have come home to roost.

This Igla is not from Russia. It is from either Bulgaria or Romania bought by CIA.

a reply to: Violater1

that looks like a SAM and not a MANPAD the way it came down at a high angle of attack and the directed spread proximity fuze to me screams SAM's

originally posted by: aHeims

originally posted by: Violater1

originally posted by: tommyjo

originally posted by: Feltrick
a reply to: Violater1

According to DEFCON Warning System on Twitter, Russian Ministry of Defense claims Jabhat Al-nusra used a shoulder fired missile to shoot down the SU-25.

Who thinks that the missile was US made...

More than likely a Russian or Chinese MANPAD. The region is awash with them

Footage of the MANPAD being launched against the Su-25. At the end of the video is footage from the group of a MANPAD they claimed to have captured from the YPG. The MANPAD is a Russian SA-18.

If this video is accurate and the MANPAD was from a captured YPG on the Hamam front. YPG, The People's Protection Units is a mainly-Kurdish militia in Syria and the primary component of the Democratic Federation of Northern Syria's Syrian Democratic Forces. Several western sources have claimed that YPG is the "most effective" force in fighting ISIL in Syria. So to wrap it up, ISIS captured Russian supplies and shot down the SU-25. Russian chickens have come home to roost.

This Igla is not from Russia. It is from either Bulgaria or Romania bought by CIA.

And how do you know this? I'm not arguing with you, because you maybe right. But show me some basic links.
Now I could be wrong, but didn't Bulgaria and Romania buy their Iglas from Russia?

a reply to: penroc3

Aircraft with embedded engines tend to come down hard when you take out an engine. The damage from the engine coming apart goes directly into the fuselage and wing.

originally posted by: penroc3
a reply to: Violater1

that looks like a SAM and not a MANPAD the way it came down at a high angle of attack and the directed spread proximity fuze to me screams SAM's

I don't know about it being a SAM, but at 40 seconds, you can here an English speaking voice saying, " got em..got em, got em." This is not good if this voice is real and not overlayed into the audio. Could be sneaky Chinese technology.
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