Women Discriminated Against

Men and Women are different as shocking as it sounds I know I know everyone thinks they are super fluid

a reply to: ketsuko

I kinda see it as the Grid Girls are exploiting (the sport is really) the female form, my form.

I do feel sorry for the individuals who have lost their jobs/way of life, that is a shame for them personally.

For the western female (and male) psyche, this is kinda a good thing, as it wasn't that long ago Grid Girls were more scantily clad and, you know... whats their point again?

Perhaps if they unionised, that would protect their industry and jobs. And wouldn't that be just the most glorious outcome? That a leftist construct like a union being used to crush leftist moral crusaders and their bigotry.

a reply to: Krahzeef_Ukhar

who was deciding how they would dress though is my question? them or their bosses??? my guess, it's like every other workplace and it's the boss telling you they want you to dress in a certain way, weather it be high heels, business attire, of hot pants and low cut blouses... you just have to go along with it if you want the job.

me thinks the feminists and the me too people are getting a bum rap here..

Thinking more on this.

They should have gone out with a bang and a message.

Grid Grannies - for the last season, only over 65, and the older the lady the more money she makes. Only natural old beauty need apply

originally posted by: Dae
a reply to: ketsuko

I kinda see it as the Grid Girls are exploiting (the sport is really) the female form, my form.

You might be a woman but you have absolutely no right whatsoever to use that as a moral battering ram. How you see it is utterly irrelevant. They like the job, they want the job, they should have every right to do the job. No discussions.

originally posted by: Dae
a reply to: ketsuko
I do feel sorry for the individuals who have lost their jobs/way of life, that is a shame for them personally.

That's not even slightly true. Your dispassionate syntax gives that away immediately. You view them as retrogrades who should stop thinking for themselves and start complying with the sisterhood. We have grown wise to the lefts use of language.

originally posted by: Dae
a reply to: ketsuko
For the western female (and male) psyche, this is kinda a good thing, as it wasn't that long ago Grid Girls were more scantily clad and, you know... whats their point again?

Nope. For third wave feminism, this is a good thing. As for the point? Let's see; bills to pay, college to fund, car loans to pay off, medical bills to cover, maybe they are saving up to go and travel the world? Why does anyone do the job they do? Perhaps, more likely, they do it because they are confortable with their bodies, don't resent the idea of males (and females) enjoying the sight of their bodies, and aren't preoccupied with the mysandristic idea that men turn into uncontrollable masses of hairy, sweaty, humping adrenaline at the sight of a scantily dressed woman?

Just my opinion.

a reply to: Dae

So?

And if they want to do it, why shouldn't they be able to?

What do you say to people who tell you that women should dress more modestly? I'm sure you tell them to go get stuffed. You'll wear a string bikini at the pool if you want to, but somehow, this is beyond the pale for you?

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Dae

So?

And if they want to do it, why shouldn't they be able to?

What do you say to people who tell you that women should dress more modestly? I'm sure you tell them to go get stuffed. You'll wear a string bikini at the pool if you want to, but somehow, this is beyond the pale for you?

Feminists are all the same. They want the right to expose themselves, they use their ideology to commit some of the most depraved and degrading behavior I have ever witnessed, but they don't want other women to enjoy their bodies. Especially when the other women are attractive. It must just be a jealousy thing. It's the only reason I can see why beautiful women in advertising is being banned, but ugly landwhale hulks of women with facial piercings and crop cut died blue hair are portrayed as "natural" and "brave"

a reply to: CulturalResilience

I think people should be free to do whatever work they choose to do, but I can see why the F1 dropped the Grid Girls.

This is just my opinion, because I am too lazy to look up a link at this moment, but the younger generations and their kids don't really seem to be in to the "sex sells" advertising shtick that appeals to the older crowds. Advertising is changing and so does their style/propaganda.

originally posted by: Saxomophone

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Dae

So?

And if they want to do it, why shouldn't they be able to?

What do you say to people who tell you that women should dress more modestly? I'm sure you tell them to go get stuffed. You'll wear a string bikini at the pool if you want to, but somehow, this is beyond the pale for you?

Feminists are all the same. They want the right to expose themselves, they use their ideology to commit some of the most depraved and degrading behavior I have ever witnessed, but they don't want other women to enjoy their bodies. Especially when the other women are attractive. It must just be a jealousy thing. It's the only reason I can see why beautiful women in advertising is being banned, but ugly landwhale hulks of women with facial piercings and crop cut died blue hair are portrayed as "natural" and "brave"

It's not really about feminism. It's about demographics and what sells.

originally posted by: introvert
It's not really about feminism. It's about demographics and what sells.

If this is about demographics and what sells, F1 just made a massive error.

originally posted by: Dae
a reply to: ketsuko

I kinda see it as the Grid Girls are exploiting (the sport is really) the female form, my form.

I do feel sorry for the individuals who have lost their jobs/way of life, that is a shame for them personally.

For the western female (and male) psyche, this is kinda a good thing, as it wasn't that long ago Grid Girls were more scantily clad and, you know... whats their point again?

They don't represent me or my form, nor your & yours. Don't be so self-centered, these were treasured jobs someone else held, not us.

Edit: If I may be blunt, women have a lot of growing up to do still, we're stuck in a selfish kids loop still.

originally posted by: peck420

originally posted by: introvert
It's not really about feminism. It's about demographics and what sells.

If this is about demographics and what sells, F1 just made a massive error.

Exactly. The Nu Male, SJW attitudes are not prevalent within the F1 community. They are incompatible. This was a purely political move, I hope these legitimate workers protest this right the way up to the highest levels. But ultimately F1 is a private organization. They don't have to employ them. Lets hope their pressure and pressure from the fans give them a positive result.

a reply to: Nyiah

For a lot of women, it takes some work to maintain that kind of body shape, not just a natural gift.

There is a careful diet and usually exercise that goes into to staying in that form.

originally posted by: Nyiah
They don't represent me or my form, nor your & yours. Don't be so self-centered, these were treasured jobs someone else held, not us.

Edit: If I may be blunt, women have a lot of growing up to do still, we're stuck in a selfish kids loop still.

First up, I think you all need to calm down and stop yammering about feminists and leftists, friggin' hell!

To defend my point, I think we need to be clear, when I asked, What was their point again? What is their job role? Now off the top of my head, it is to be female, young and beautiful and nowt to do with the actual sport. But do correct me if I am wrong.

If I may be blunt to your Edit, people have been saying 'Women need to blah blah', since forever.

I say people need to grow up, male and female, stop bowing into their narcissism and help others.


And I still think the Grid Grannies would have been an awesome way to go out, maybe some who were grid girls back in the day!

In a statement issued on Wednesday, he said: "Over the last year we have looked at a number of areas which we felt needed updating so as to be more in tune with our vision for this great sport.

"We don't believe the practice is appropriate or relevant to Formula 1 and its fans, old and new, across the world."

I'm missing the discrimination part.

Where?

originally posted by: ClovenSky
Ah, the slippery slope is increasing angle and ditching friction at a really fun pace.

Next up: Fashion shows. Miss 'anything' pageants and anything that glamorizes or glorifies the female form.

Eh, there is a reasonable argument that some of those pageants are not good things. I'm thinking of the ones parents force their kids into despite those kids often expressing that they don't want to do them. Those pageants where the kids are dressed up very provocatively and wearing makeup to make them look far older than they are.

Same goes for the fashion industry and how badly minors, male and female, are treated. There is often abuse, both sexual and emotional. Ditto for Hollyweird.

As far as being an adult? Doesn't phase me. You can stand in a boxing ring, or in the middle of a racetrack wearing skimpy outfits all you want as long as you're happy and there voluntarily. I personally don't really see the connection beyond them being eye-candy, but to each their own I suppose.

My opinion is more along the lines that the F1 racing community is trying to prevent any possibility of sexual harassment charges in the future since it's seeming that 'me too' claims are coming from everywhere, especially entertainment/sports. It may also be an indicator that there have already been some problems cropping up and they're in damage control mode.

a reply to: Subrosabelow

I agree, those junior pageants are disgusting. Personally I think it is child abuse. Teaching a child that their worth is based on their looks. If any good comes from this, eliminating those contests would be it.

In a sane world, responsible adults should be able to flaunt whatever they want, maybe with some reasonable restrictions for being around minors. But this is not a sane world. I think it is better to view this as pure entertainment compared to anything changing for the better, or at least that is what my sanity tells me.

a reply to: Dae

Wow, so you have discovered that some jobs have standards. What of it?

There is a reason why professional athletes are generally all young and in peak physical condition. Why aren't you out there crying about how grossy unfair and exploitative it is that all the people playing ... say professional basketball or soccer are all generally very physically fit and young?

How come there are no old, overweight professional athletes?

Isn't that discriminatory?

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Nyiah

For a lot of women, it takes some work to maintain that kind of body shape, not just a natural gift.

There is a careful diet and usually exercise that goes into to staying in that form.

Absolutely true, but they get s# on for it for their successes in that area. A fit, healthy woman is evidently not a good role model anymore for the younger crowd. What utterly pathetic stupidity, we've moved away from Kate Moss physiques being desirable (and a good call it was, that was not a healthy era) to health & fitness being desirable, to now obesity being Queen of the Crop (no pun intended)

The subliminal message being put out might as well be "Stop trying to find a balance, kids, we already quit."