Don’t tell a doctor about visions

originally posted by: SailorJerry

originally posted by: Sheye
How come people like John Edward and other psychics never get diagnosed schizophrenic. They make tons of profit on their “ visions” , and I don’t see a team of psychiatrists after them with a mental illness diagnosis.

This world is odd. 🤔🤷🏻‍♀️

Because everyone knows they are faking it

Ahem... But... But...

Yeah, I can't argue with that. I got nothing.

I would get your eyes examined. I don't mean that sarcastically. It could be something mundane like vitreous separation or more serious retina detachment. It can cause floaties, flashes of light, distorted vision....

originally posted by: StallionDuck
a reply to: rickymouse

So what does it mean when you can see a whole world in front of you, people, buildings, having long conversations with others who may or 'may not' be there? I mean... I have this weird thing going where I see people everywhere I go and I even talk to some and they often respond. It happens everytime I open my eyes in the morning and lasts until I close them to sleep each night. Even hotdogs taste real! Man... Music is so... Awesome! Don't get me started on porn....

I wonder what kinda of wonder drugs a doctor will have for me if I tell them that?

It means you spend too much time on the internet, where you see these things and have conversations on line with people who may not really be there.

How would we really know if the people we see and interact with all day long are all real? How would we positively know we are not integrated into a highly advanced computer simulation created by people like us who have technology that would blow away our comprehension. We do not really know. But one thing for sure, if you hit your thumb with a hammer it does hurt, if you cut your finger off it is gone. If you get shot you will possibly die, even if it is an illusion.

We live in this world we know as real. I know our economy is not real, I know that our wants and desires can take over our lives and force us into submission and slavery. Those are some of the things I know about this reality we live in.

I knew a woman who had alzheimer who was seeing people who I could not see. What was she seeing? She did not recognize them, but then again memories interfering with a person with alzheimers...she was forgetting all sorts of people. I tried to get her to tell me what they looked like, most times it was a guy and girl in their twenties. Her mind was waining, or maybe what she was seeing was real, I will never know, maybe they were spirits or something. It could be something or just the hallucinations of someone with dementia. I do not know. I did not want to upset her so I just told her I could not recognize them and could not tell who they were.

Whether or not this reality is real, we must follow along with the reality and follow the script. The script written by the authors of this reality.

Fluid flow accounts for 99% of the phenomenon.

Usually lack of blood to specific area of the brain.

I wondered for years what the black tadpoles that swim towards the center are. I was sitting in a doctor's office once when she asked me an embarrassing question. I answered it, and I got the tadpoles hardcore, I was blushing hardcore. Since then I've pinned it down to changes in blood flow.

Had problems with vision while standing up etc for a long time. It went away when i resolved my health issues related to bad dental work and the sphenoid sinusitis it was causing (among other issues). Of course the doc said its normal, I say no its not Im an athlete and this problem showed out of nowhere. They didn't care. They dont care, they never will care about truth and reality. Doctors are the ultimate conformist slime. Its like to graduate from nurse you sign a pact with Satan to become an evil doctor

Wow, talk about posts from those terrified of discovering what consciousness is, or deliberately spreading the mental illness card.

www.cia.gov...

I did a search for this, but though cia released this doc its difficult. If someone knows how to turn the document around, would be great, however, the tables match what Dr. Rauni Kilde shared in her last book: Bright Light On Black Shadows.

The majority of humans when questioned experienced paranormal, including voices, because contact with the dead category, sensing your loved one who has crossed over, often involves vision or dream with voice. Such as my cousins, my first cousins once removed, after their mother's funeral. With one upstairs and one down, feeling very depressed and sad, and they both had a vision of her at the same time, they both saw and heard her tell them she was alright, and they both ran up and down the stairs and met in the middle to share.

And according the studies, the table, their experience was HUMAN, what it means to be a HUMAN.

Now, humans are not mentally ill as a majority.

So the scientists and government and elite creeps behind all of this are trying to make the experience of being human to be mental illness, or nerf everyones naturall PSYCHIC ABILITIES.

And you have to ask, WHY?

Truth seekers ask.

There is a metaphor in the bible regarding the state of the world around us. Those who give their power away to media and mistruths and don't dig deep for truth. How they get deluded, and believe lies and this causes them to support and do things that harm people so the passage says they get condemned, but the metaphor for this is a warning. Your world degrades if a majority doesn't actually seek truth in all matters, ask who benefits from all news and activities, and who doesnt Cherry Pick everything they read even religious books, and who doesn't seek to uncover what they're in, and how to get out of it.

I'm not religious, just spiritual. To me this is the metaphor written above, a push to seek truth.

2 Thessalonians 2:10-11

They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie.


Of course the doctor is a at best an idiot, at worst one of the dark hats who now has screwed up your record and possibly any chance to own a gun, for example, or get a promotion.

And many people have various types of visions and experiences. Not every day, all day long. And certainly typical of schizophrenics. Who I've talked to, and who have distorted and frightening visions, such as insects, and demons.

They don't have veil lifting aware type visions that nudge them awake or on their mission.

Those kind aren't mental illness.

And the majority of humans on earth have experienced the paranormal.

Thats what it means to be human.

Highly recommend Bright Light on Black Shadows by the way. So much packed into each page. Its written almost like a first draft.

To all those implying the doctor must be correct:
I have worked with a young male (who had a mild learning disability). His mother was a very spiritual lady and often spoke of hearing spirits. Her son began to tell his doctor that he also heard spirits. He could sometimes be a little upset as at times his mum heard frim deceased relatives. Other than that the hearing of the spirits was not causing any negative effects on either individual. The doctor immediately prescribed quetiapine - a powerful anti-psychotic drug. This doctor was a GP, not a psychiatric Doctor buthas thepowers to prescribe these drugs. The young man was referred to a psychiatrist but never attended the meetings for various reasons. The medications continued to be prescribed.
The young man shared a flat with another young man with a mild learning disability. The 2nd man knew all about his flatmate hearing the spirit voices and about his meds as they shared these stories. This young man was very impressionable and sought attention in the wrong way sometimes. He told his Doctor he sometimes heard voices too. It was a two minute conversation. He was then prescribed the same medication and referral given. The young man developed thoughts about harming himself which is a side effect of this medication but was not removedfrom it, just given antidepressants. Never spoke about voices again yet was kept on this medication for years until a psychiatric Doctor eventually lowered the dose.
Doctors are really not always experts. They rely on verbal information that can be perceived differentlyto diagnose.
They prescribe drugs on a trial and error basis.
A friend of mine also very much a spiritualist medium was suffering depression and when asked by her doctor if she heard voices she told him yes those of spirits when she was connecting with them. He made her feel crazy told her she had psychosis and again gave powerful drugs that messed her up. Her depression worsened and she doubted herself and her spiritual abilities for a time. 2 years later and a different doctor told her she should never have been given those drugs and agreed they had made her depression worse as the side effects include feeling suicidal.
Doctors do not always know best. Often they are pill pushers and not much else.

a reply to: anotherside

Stop telling me what i should think. I get that all day

You quoted what you are replying too.


I am just highlighting how confused you are,

I read the post you replying to as an observation.

The posters observed your usual posting habits of blaming everything and anything external you can think of or make up.

NO where did even hint at that you should be thinking in a certain way.

No where.



Yet you reply with

Stop telling me what i should think.

Do you read extra stuff that isn't posted?

Maybe not read it but hear it and reply like you thought you read it?


NO where did anyone suggest how you should think.


NO where.

a reply to: SupremeBeing


I have at times had visions (while awake that came true); dreams that foretold of warnings and once helped a Co-worker find some long lost papers that she needed.

I also once lived in a dorm room that was haunted. One roommate swore she saw a crazy old lady pulling at her whispy grey hair while staring at her in the middle of the night. Things would go missing to reappear in locked cabinets even though no one had entered the room.

I heard my name called twice while there. I chose to ignore it, but I had roommates who couldn’t handle it and switch rooms.

I wouldn’t go by what a regular physician says. You really need a full psychological eval for a diagnosis like that.

Curious, do you take any meds? Some are known to have bad side effects if stopped abruptly.

If you're going to tell a doctor that works in general hospitals that you're having visions, he's going to tell you you're crazy. If you're not satisfied with his answer then continue searching for different doctors, spiritual specialists, or even finding a doctor of another culture. And if they all say the same thing, you probably are schizo

a reply to: SupremeBeing

I take walks, sometimes drive down country roads as I relax to fall asleep. lol...actually scared myself one time when I was driving in a hilly area and suddenly realized I saw the roofs of the houses down below. there was a road going down to them that I saw eventually but boy was it ever one long steep hill to drive down...
I decided to turn around and go back.
I also like to explore imaginary old abandoned houses...
they can call it mental illness if they want. but I call it a most enjoyable way to fall asleep. maybe we are just lingering between to border of sleep and awake, with both the conscious and the unconscious active at the same time or something.

I won’t give you medical advice or judge your beliefs. But I will say that I wish the best for you. Wish I could help. Take care of yourself, OP.

a reply to: Runatresno

If you're going to tell a doctor that works in general hospitals that you're having visions, he's going to tell you you're crazy. If you're not satisfied with his answer then continue searching for different doctors

in some cases yes, however a doctor that say that is extremely unprofessional.

look for a doctor that is qualified to diagnose such as normal General practitioners are not.

They can only refer to a qualified specialist based on what you tell them not diagnose you.

a reply to: SupremeBeing

Wow really? Maybe I need to tell a doctor that. Perhaps I could get some help, ANY help for a lifelong failing fight with serious mental illness. Yeah, right. Unless youre a child or you fit into a "serious condition" mold, you get F all. People talk a big game about mental illness socially, but are full of ish generally. As I fight, day after day after day, with no end in sight you begin to really appreciate the option a gun gives you.

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Having "visions" is not normal, there has never been any actual proof that any individuals can actually have any kind of vision

Yes it is perfectly normal... It has been happening for eons. If you have no imagination then perhaps you need some help. Much of the greatest works of art have come through imagination and visions.

originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

I have a feeling you read a different OP than I did.

He went to a regular doctor and told him about Visions, which are basically vivid dreams and got diagnosed with schizophrenia. The doctor is always right you say? I don't think so. I've seen severly depressed people and their doctor told them that they don't need psychiatric help. Where they right too because they have the title?

I think OSOTC has a professional background in mental health, if I recall from other threads.

A diagnosis of schizophrenia requires a number of criteria being met. I reckon both OSOTC and I think that OP has left out several important parts of the story.

originally posted by: Jerseymilker
a reply to: SupremeBeing

I'm going to take a different approach.

Dr's are in such a hurry to take the next patient they never take time to properly diagnose. Not all the time of course but a lot of the time. I know when I go in to the Dr (as little as possible) there is no checking me over, they first check my age then advise me no matter what I say that my problem is due to my age.

If you are bothered get a second opinion. If you feel you are healthy and have no issues, who cares what the Doctor says.

I would say MOST of the time.

And be careful what you tell a doctor in general. My mother once asked if it would be alright to have some champagne on NYE (would it affect a medication she was taking). My mother didn't even drink beer, but forever after, any time we saw a doc, or entered a hospital, the first question was always, "How long have you been an alcoholic?"

And yet, they never recalled that you couldn't use tape on her skin when starting an IV (she had Lupus, and tape would peel her very delicate skin off).

originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Come on please. An illness starts when someone is suffering. To diagnose every slightly outside the norm thought as schizophrenic makes the whole profession a joke.

my thoughts exactly!

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

the OP sounds like hes having a lucid dream, you know being conscious that your dreaming.... its a real thing
that we have probably always done, you should look it up its common ive even done it.

yes proper schizophrenics have trouble with reality because they are so far from it
... its nothing compared to the social conditioning by FB, Twitter, Insta et al

a reply to: SupremeBeing

Lol, this seems like common sense. They are going to go by the medical journals and "standard of care".

It is pretty normative for people to have a spiritually or religiously profound experience. I suspect it has a lot to do with the doctor you get how normative they think it is.

However, if it interferes with life or if you are a risk to yourself or others, or unbalanced, then any doctor is going to do something. Probably stick you on meds. Even though I'm psychic, I'd agree with that decision made on someone else. If it interferes with their lives. But I always think that those heavy-duty meds should be a temporary solution until someone learns to balance themselves.

I've also had sometimes thoughts that these meds are also designed to shut off peoples' abilities and some people with money steered it that way, but I have no proof there's some conspiracy there. I don't really even believe schitzophrenia exists. I was never diagnosed with it, so it's just my opinion, but I believe it's an excuse to shut off psychic people.