Don’t tell a doctor about visions

When you close your eyes and see things like a movie running, it is not schizophrenia unless you believe it is real. Sometimes memories are formed and they form in a movie like fashion. These film clips contain lots of information but our mind assembles them based on what we experienced when we were young.

I can bring these clips from memories of events when I was young, usually they are only maybe ten seconds or so long. Also there are times when we can have daytime dream episodes, these are handy if you learn to control them. I can look at an engine and visualize the engine turning over over and observe the cranks and valves running. I have always been able to do that. When I got the epilepsy, I had problems with whole movies running in my head when I would close my eyes, almost like I was seeing through someone elses eyes. I do not know where these clips of time came from, maybe from watching tv or something I created images of movie clips. I knew they were not real, but did wonder why I would have these images then see a show an hour later with pretty much the exact thing on as I was seeing, almost like someone was feeding me this image telepathically one hour before hand, as they were seeing it where they were, the show was aligned with their timezone, they were seeing it one hour before hand. Maybe a cousin or someone I am related to, living in the next time zone.

Who knows, I did an extensive study on this link, and from researching hundreds of articles, I believe the link could be real, so do some scientists who did the research. This is actually a hard thing to prove, in my case, I did not know what I was witnessing, only that it was not real to me, sort of like daydreaming. You wouldn't be able to trust this, maybe my relative was witnessing something, maybe they were dreaming, maybe they were watching TV. Maybe the one sending the info is nuts or sick too. Are all the dreams we have just figments of our imagination or are some actually someone else experiencing something and we are tied to them somehow?

As long as you know they are not real, you are not crazy. It is when you start thinking they are actually real and TELL SOMEBODY that you get called nuts. Our whole reality is just an illusion anyway, consensus of the day and society controls the illusion. I do not believe half of the stuff that others in society believe is necessary, I think it is wants and deception that control our society. So I am skitzo because I do not believe everything I am told until I research it and see if the interpretation of the evidence is correct. We are supposed to believe the professionals without questioning if they are perceiving things correctly. Then we are normal.

I sometimes see images when I close my eyes before I completely fall asleep.

I also saw the Terminator movies. I'm not going to go to a doctor and claim to have seen something which they don't believe is rational. I don't have proof and many people don't believe in God or paranormal things. Some doctors like to prescribe medications for everything. Without proof, a doctor and others might just believe you have gone crazy or are making up a story for some reason.

I'm glad a nurse put my temperature down as normal when I was a little kid and she said my temperature was 69 after checking it twice. She had been talking about taking my temperature in other more intrusive ways. I think my core temperature was normal but if it had not been, there's no telling what kind of trouble they would have given me for the rest of my life. In hind site, it was a mistake to go to the doctor just because I felt cold. I was a little kid. I suspect the nurse thought I had been drinking ice water or ice cubes. It may be a little bit unusual but I've heard it's not that unusual for parts of the body to cool down below normal temperatures at times. Your core body temperature should be close to normal. In my case, parts of my body can cool down to almost air temperature. Some people think you are crazy or have a medical problem if you talk about stuff that seems strange to them. Doctors don't know everything. They only know about what they read in textbooks or were taught in school. Visions were probably not included as normal human behavior.

a reply to: SupremeBeing

Kind of the opposite in California,no Dr wants to be the one who refers a patient to seek mental health,they say it's up to the individual to commit himself,for a 72 hr minimum hold,plenty walking around untreated

originally posted by: Oldtimer2
a reply to: SupremeBeing

Kind of the opposite in California,no Dr wants to be the one who refers a patient to seek mental health,they say it's up to the individual to commit himself,for a 72 hr minimum hold,plenty walking around untreated

This is normal in the western world, even if present at emergency with "symptoms of being #ed in the head" if you know the protocols, and what to say to leave you are free to go, most nutcases have a reasonable IQ and can bypass the test so to speak.

I think its due to a combo of visual cortex and audio cortex acting as an antenna of sorts. I would close my eyes and i saw trees and mountains. I was diagnosed schizo effective. Where im not schizophrenic but have side symptoms.

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

And now you are diagnosing them too? Perfect.

a reply to: SupremeBeing

So... because you see clouds, stars and space, this makes you schizophrenic?

This is a daft assumption.

If you had said you were having visions of you in space talking to a white rabbit, then that may need more attention.

originally posted by: sputniksteve
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

And now you are diagnosing them too? Perfect.

I am not diagnosing anyone, the OP states that he has been told by a doctor he has schizophrenia

Silly doctor!
if you look at a Lot of pictures then
go in to a dark room close your eyes.
you will still see them!! try it.

a reply to: buddha

I'm wondering why Schizophrenia was never detected before now in the person?

I mean granted Schizophrenia can manifest itself at any time in life, but generally, it happens early on.

If i was the person in question, i would be rather ambivalent regarding the diagnosis and consider it to be an idea to seek a second opinion from my own GP.

Should his own doctor come to the same conclusion all the same then it's hardly the end of the world as there are viable treatments available regarding the mental illness in question.

I went through 3 months of delirium. Left me with minor ptsd. I thought i was Schizophreniac. So i saw a psychiatrist!!! He spoke to me for an hour. Say back and said. "You dont have schizophrenia in anyway" i had convinced myself i had.

My advice... go see a psychiatrist... just ask for a consult and tell him to rin a schizophrenia test.

originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Come on please. An illness starts when someone is suffering. To diagnose every slightly outside the norm thought as schizophrenic makes the whole profession a joke.

Of course you would think that, arent you diagnosed schiz?

originally posted by: anotherside
I think its due to a combo of visual cortex and audio cortex acting as an antenna of sorts. I would close my eyes and i saw trees and mountains. I was diagnosed schizo effective. Where im not schizophrenic but have side symptoms.

You modify your house to stop the voices from coming in, anyone can read your thread history.

its not the doctors fault here.

Blame game every time, the old saying is true "Schizophrenics dont know they are schizophrenics" at least not until they trust their diagnosis and start doing what they need to to manage it

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Come on please. An illness starts when someone is suffering. To diagnose every slightly outside the norm thought as schizophrenic makes the whole profession a joke.

Yeah and thats why it doesn't work like that.

Its not a case of "you think differently, have a mental illness".

Its a case of "you're convinced your a immortal God because voices in your head tell that you, you might have some kind of psychosis going on there, we can help with that"

It doesn't work with you diagnosing someone because you think they're mental. From your own words... I suppose I MUST believe I'm a Stallion Duck! And you... You're either heads or tails but you don't say which so you believe you're a confused coin. Though, your avatar is of an alien with a cell phone so I'm guessing you're heads... an Alien head.

See... those are just assumptions without knowing you but only using the words you mentioned against you. The OP never said he was a god. He never said anything about hearing voices or smearing crap on his walls. He/she simply said that when they close their eyes, they see clouds, stars, space... and that's only "sometimes". It could be lucid dreams. It could be a better imagination than yours or ours. But telling the person to seek help because you right off think that they're schizo is pretty sad. You're not a doctor but you're playing one on ATS. Even if you were, your practice wouldn't likely be ok with you diagnosing people you've never met and on such a short description of what that person is witness to.

It disturbs me how in one response you suggest that people who see visions in reference to their religion, needs to seek help. That's pretty lame. In another response, you agreed that the OP needed a second opinion but you dished that out for him/her really quick, without delay.

Cmon man... you're better than this. right?

a reply to: rickymouse

So what does it mean when you can see a whole world in front of you, people, buildings, having long conversations with others who may or 'may not' be there? I mean... I have this weird thing going where I see people everywhere I go and I even talk to some and they often respond. It happens everytime I open my eyes in the morning and lasts until I close them to sleep each night. Even hotdogs taste real! Man... Music is so... Awesome! Don't get me started on porn....

I wonder what kinda of wonder drugs a doctor will have for me if I tell them that?

From my experience Schizophrenia is a wealth load more than just seeing pictures with your eyes closed.

In my case it's a very convincing series of beliefs that are so far fetched they make living in conventional reality very difficult for the majority of the time, brought about by an almost continuous influx of sensory information that is inexplicably unconventional in terms of how I process said stimuli.

It's disabling in an extreme.

Seeing pictures on the back of your eyelids as you fall asleep is NOT Schizophrenia.

originally posted by: SailorJerry

originally posted by: anotherside
I think its due to a combo of visual cortex and audio cortex acting as an antenna of sorts. I would close my eyes and i saw trees and mountains. I was diagnosed schizo effective. Where im not schizophrenic but have side symptoms.

You modify your house to stop the voices from coming in, anyone can read your thread history.

its not the doctors fault here.

Blame game every time, the old saying is true "Schizophrenics dont know they are schizophrenics" at least not until they trust their diagnosis and start doing what they need to to manage it

You obviously didnt think about if schizophrenia is a thing that is not techno. Then its the brain and body.
So ive seen scans of schiz brains. They have dark regions. Now imagine you have a radio antenna.
Wrap it with electrical signals up and down you will hear it and static. Shield it and remove noise you get a clean signal. Thats my theory. Stop telling me what i should think. I get that all day

How come people like John Edward and other psychics never get diagnosed schizophrenic. They make tons of profit on their “ visions” , and I don’t see a team of psychiatrists after them with a mental illness diagnosis.

This world is odd. 🤔🤷🏻‍♀️

originally posted by: anotherside

originally posted by: SailorJerry

originally posted by: anotherside
I think its due to a combo of visual cortex and audio cortex acting as an antenna of sorts. I would close my eyes and i saw trees and mountains. I was diagnosed schizo effective. Where im not schizophrenic but have side symptoms.

You modify your house to stop the voices from coming in, anyone can read your thread history.

its not the doctors fault here.

Blame game every time, the old saying is true "Schizophrenics dont know they are schizophrenics" at least not until they trust their diagnosis and start doing what they need to to manage it

You obviously didnt think about if schizophrenia is a thing that is not techno. Then its the brain and body.
So ive seen scans of schiz brains. They have dark regions. Now imagine you have a radio antenna.
Wrap it with electrical signals up and down you will hear it and static. Shield it and remove noise you get a clean signal. Thats my theory. Stop telling me what i should think. I get that all day

Thank you for proving my point

originally posted by: Sheye
How come people like John Edward and other psychics never get diagnosed schizophrenic. They make tons of profit on their “ visions” , and I don’t see a team of psychiatrists after them with a mental illness diagnosis.

This world is odd. 🤔🤷🏻‍♀️

Because everyone knows they are faking it