Don’t tell a doctor about visions

I lead a boring uneventful life, but do on occasion have visions. Because i’m Older I often lay down and relax/nap. Sometimes when i do I close my eyes and start having visions of clouds, stars and space.

I was concerned that my brain was glitching so I told a doctor. Right away he diagnosed me with schizophrenia. This wasn’t aGP who knows my life(I don’t have one) this was a hospital doctor I was seeing for the first time who knew nothing about me.

There was no questioning about anything. I mentioned visions and was told i’m Crazy.

I never trusted the diagnosis because it’s a small city with mediocre quality doctors who would struggle dealing with a nose bleed but still. It’s so irritating to goabout your life as normal as ever, except sleep/meditation visions, and be labeled schizo because of zeta quality physician.

Anyways, if you have similar cool effects and live in a small town or city don’t tell your Cracker Jack level doctor. They’ll harass you year after year while you’re trying to enjoy life.

Threads like this make me uncomfortable on ATS, its just a subject I have never seen dealt with particularly well, I also think that some replies can be damaging to those who are living with a mental illness.

If you have been diagnosed with schizophrenia then as much as the stigma around that might suck then you most likely do have the condition. Having "visions" is not normal, there has never been any actual proof that any individuals can actually have any kind of vision, be it to tell the future or commune with paranormal beings. In almost all cases it is the result of a psychotic event or other cognitive condition.

If that is happening to you it is vital that you speak with a doctor and get the help you need.

I wish you well OP, I hope you get better soon.

a reply to: SupremeBeing

Speak with a specialist, regular doctors range from decent to totally incompetent...


I must say that the way employers are attempting to gain more and more information about people including medical declarations that could mean medical records are disclosed I will only speak with my GP once I am dead!!!, I jest of course, living in the multicultural soup of Londonstan I cannot see a GP within any reasonable time anyway so if it was bad enough I would be dead...


Get it checked out and update us on what they find, (if you want??)


RA

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

bingo

a reply to: SupremeBeing

I'm going to take a different approach.

Dr's are in such a hurry to take the next patient they never take time to properly diagnose. Not all the time of course but a lot of the time. I know when I go in to the Dr (as little as possible) there is no checking me over, they first check my age then advise me no matter what I say that my problem is due to my age.

If you are bothered get a second opinion. If you feel you are healthy and have no issues, who cares what the Doctor says.

a reply to: SupremeBeing

Sometimes when i do I close my eyes and start having visions of clouds, stars and space.

If you're just seeing those things, and you don't have voices talking to you, you might be just prematurely dreaming. Especially if you're tired. It's not unusual.

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
there has never been any actual proof that any individuals can actually have any kind of vision

I'm visioning a tomato in my head right now. And now a pine cone. Those stupid scientists can't even prove it.

The fact many think we need scientists to validate everything is more insane than any sort of phenomenal vision of beautiful euphoric lights. Maybe these doctors should be labeled insane for having absolutely no imagination whatsoever.

a reply to: SupremeBeing

Some people don't believe in visions because they cannot understand it. They like it when they can put you in a box so they can put a label on it.

a reply to: SupremeBeing

While your alias makes me nervous, as I don't know where you're coming from, there are many different types of clairvoyants, which defy scientific descriptions. I was beginning to get pretty good with lucid dreaming, until my G.P. had to put me on a daily Statin, for my raised, bad cholesterol. That med mucked up my dreams, and I'm only one among many, to have had this happen. Your M.D. would probably have a cow, over witnessing me map dowse for some missing person or other.

Never mind field dowsing for a water well, which will quickly be proved to be either true or false. Send me a private message with a couple of your "visions", and I'll reciprocate with a dowse or two, of the "White Wizard's" location, when Trump takes most of his Cabinet over to Davos, Sw. in a few days. If Assange gives up the external hard drive, he claims has all of the DNC's info, to one of Trump's cabinet members, then they, and or, Trump, will use it as soon as he comes back to D.C. and finish off the Russian Collusion Investigation.

I don't like to map dowse something, or someone, where I've never been, but in June of 2016 we certainly drove down the street, in a Tour Bus, right next to the Ecuadoran Embassy, in London, where Assange has been holed up, for the last five years or so.

originally posted by: 3daysgone
a reply to: SupremeBeing

Some people don't believe in visions because they cannot understand it. They like it when they can put you in a box so they can put a label on it.

It is a perfect example of what I mean.

The OP has a real psychiatric condition that requires treatment, yet when it is discussed on ATS people want to pretend its something else.

I always think this is one of the saddest things about mental illness, if you break a leg, people can see that and can believe it for what it is. If you have a mental illness it cannot be seen and so easily understood and the result is misunderstandings and stigma.

Comments like this in my view do not help those living with mental illness rather than can be dangerous, it dissuades them from getting the kind of help they need because it validates their deluded views that their visions are "real".

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

This is something I actually agree with you on.


OP,
If you're unsatisfied with the doctor you spoke to originally I would recommend consulting another one for a second opinion, but definitely take their advice even if it makes you uncomfortable or you don't want to hear it.

a reply to: watchitburn

I concur, a second opinion could be very useful.

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

I always think this is one of the saddest things about mental illness, if you break a leg, people can see that and can believe it for what it is. If you have a mental illness it cannot be seen and so easily understood and the result is misunderstandings and stigma.

Consider the possibility that the system is the mental illness - where all dissidents are deemed insane to protect the integrity of the asylum.



Also see one flew over the cuckoo's nest

a reply to: cooperton

Consider the possibility that the system is the mental illness - where all dissidents are deemed insane to protect the integrity of the asylum.

Well when you see a guy smearing his own crap on walls because the voices told him to then you don't need to consider such things.

When you see a girl starving her self because she has hallucinations of herself being huge every time she looks in the mirror to the point that she needs to be fed with a tube, again, you don't need to consider such things.

The point I am making is that when you see mental illness up close first hand, when its at its worse then the notion of considering that its some kind of illusion itself becomes, quite frankly, a bad joke.

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Come on please. An illness starts when someone is suffering. To diagnose every slightly outside the norm thought as schizophrenic makes the whole profession a joke.

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

The OP has a real psychiatric condition that requires treatment, yet when it is discussed on ATS people want to pretend its something else.

So you know the OP personally and have the necessary medical history of what visions are to make diagnosis? Please. Visions have been recorded through out history.

Science wants you to believe that other dimensions are possible, but you draw the line on visions. lol. nuff said.

Comments like this in my view do not help those living with mental illness rather than can be dangerous, it dissuades them from getting the kind of help they need because it validates their deluded views that their visions are "real".

The OP is the one that called them visions. The OP didn't say they were suffering from mental illness. You did. And in know way did I try to dissuade the OP from getting "help".

From your replies it would seem you put to much faith in big pharma.

originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Come on please. An illness starts when someone is suffering. To diagnose every slightly outside the norm thought as schizophrenic makes the whole profession a joke.

Yeah and thats why it doesn't work like that.

Its not a case of "you think differently, have a mental illness".

Its a case of "you're convinced your a immortal God because voices in your head tell that you, you might have some kind of psychosis going on there, we can help with that"

a reply to: 3daysgone

The OP states a doctor diagnosed him as having schizophrenia.

How are you qualified to dismiss this diagnosis?

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

I have a feeling you read a different OP than I did.

He went to a regular doctor and told him about Visions, which are basically vivid dreams and got diagnosed with schizophrenia. The doctor is always right you say? I don't think so. I've seen severly depressed people and their doctor told them that they don't need psychiatric help. Where they right too because they have the title?

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
The OP states a doctor diagnosed him as having schizophrenia.
How are you qualified to dismiss this diagnosis?

He did a survey, and 4 out of 5 of his personalities decided the doctor was mistaken.