Why Snowdon, Chelsea and Julian really are America's enemies.

what about clinton...the daughter....lately i wonder bout her she's in her thirties i guess

we gonna see her soon in the forefront?

Snoden as seen as a hero by most of intelligent America.

He exposed the gov and its programs that he felt were against our constitutional rights, and many that were operating even without our knowledge.

He changed the dynamic in that the GOV has actually had to change their operations to get more permissions to carry out certain tasks.

I wish he could have gone further personally.

The only way you can think snoden is an enemy of the gov or the people, is if you are pro big gov, pro big brother, and anti bill of rights.

In other words, if for whatever reason you think snoden is a traitor, you just arent educated in your freedoms

Snowdon really stuck the knife in and for what? All it has done is made the job of being a security service employee intolerably difficult. All we got was grainy little videos of enemies being bombed.

Not even close, we got A LOT more than that from Snoden, including a huge list of programs the gov was conducting without our knowledge on its own people.

If you think thats all we got you have not looked at the Snoden case more than a passing glance

originally posted by: Revolution9
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Apparently employees are leaving the NSA in droves according to RT this morning. It is being reported that employees are leaving the NSA because of the toxic work environment. I linked to a Times article from few days ago, but RT are suggesting it is largely to do with the employees having to report constantly on each other. Of course, RT are likely to exxagerate and propagandize according to their own tastes, but there must be some issues that are maing work conditions at the agency intolerable to many.

Employees are being forced to spy on each other in an attempt to stop the Snowdon Syndrome of betraying one's country and one's people. All those fools have done is made the NSA have to conduct itself in this manner. I have zero respect for Julian, for Snowdon (especially) and Private Manning. What did they achieve other than force the NSA to clamp down in this manner? They achieved nothing.

America, you have been far too soft. When somebody commits an act of treason and betrayal like this, betraying ther own people and their own nation, the law must deal with them appropriately. Nine tenths of the law should be about prevention. If it does not then you are destroying your own security services and your own SECURITY. The security services are vital. Don't let the globa;lists destroy that, too.

Fail.

The nsa and cia, not mention military, have engaged in all kinds of evil over the past 70 years. Many whistleblowers including Snowden have stated that they tried to address things internally. We need whistleblowers to expose misdeeds of our government.

As others have said, your username doesn't match what you are saying.

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: Revolution9

You're advocating a free rein for government and their security services , illegal activities are illegal whether they are committed by an individual or a State , whistle blowers blow the whistle for a reason not fun.

Yup, some one needs to watch the watchers.


Wikileaks are not perfect, far from it, but they have shown to be far better than any UN or government watchbody at outing corruption.

Swearing under oath to uphold the constitution has it's responsibilities.
It's not just a salary initiative to most good folks.

The secrets that got out are justified as being 'secrets' despite the evil that men do and are found red-handed?

Give the red handed ones a free pass is the wrong answer buddy.