Bigelow, UFOs, MUFON and ‘DeLonge’ Road to AATIP

a reply to: ctj83

I read the papers that ParticleNode linked below back when I did the DSP satellite thread, but I am not sure if I exactly know where the term was first coined, no.

I remembered it also came up in some of the more credible (to me, anyway) Disclosure Project testimony.

The TTSA 'Spice Boys'

These all seem like good guys Mirage, with a different approach to ufology. I'd like to a see a little more of a critical view of things, but that's a personal preference.

Old Spice
He's been in the game since the 80s. Although technically a solo artist is now on lead vocals.

Under NDA i believe, and sounds like he rather unfairly has had his hands tied whilst others are free to beat him to the punch.

Silver Spice
Learns his lines. Keeps in harmony. Ensures no discordant notes appear when he's at the keyboard.

I know little about him...

Twit Spice
Is given all the right notes to put out there so others hear them. Tends to think everything is 'fantastic' at the moment.

Didn't he find Mellon's secret files? Twisting my Mellon man

Jesus Spiced 2019 years old this Christmas. Has been crucified in the past for his vocal style. However made a great comeback after living in a cave for a while. Currently contributes with lots of promo videos.

Knew about gun camera footage being key almost a year before TTSA arrived. Seems to have gotten bored with TTSA though, with barely a video a month now. Has some very interesting ideas about the nature of the phenomena that don't match Tom DeLonges, and seems to be a good rational thinker. Makes it quite clear UFO Jesus is an unhinged character he plays

I wonder who, if any 'traded up'? I think we can expect silence on this issue.

a reply to: beetee

Thanks!

a reply to: mirageman

I think if you get a hitchhiker attach themselves, you probably need an Exorcist.

Persinger picked up on this a while back.

a reply to: ctj83

Well there are people that are testing out the Spice Boys and they are all loyal to the point of their own naivety except for two. Although all of them will not or cannot change their viewpoint publicly. That is what I have heard. Maybe you know different?

Let's just say that they are all staying true to their PR roles at the moment. It's sort of got embarrassing for all of them aboard the TTSA bus and unable to think for themselves. They are beginning to look like complete idiots. But no one publicly will break cover. It's really embarrassing for the lead vocalist as he's so far down the road now that he can't turn back. People are beginning to see that and question it openly.

The question is who is the real UFO Judas amongst them that is leaking the stuff that all is not so harmonious amongst this group of supposed "bus passengers"?

a reply to: mirageman

That explains so much Mirage. Thankyou. I'd heard rumours. Not put too much store by them.

Now I understand how you were able to correctly predict the three things you shared with me.

I' m at a loss to their identities, but at least they are pushing back.

a reply to: coursecatalog

never heard of taylor before

a reply to: coursecatalog

no i was talking about the american cosmic guys but you already answered it

I am curious if we, after close to 300 pages, feel we are getting some kind of shape of what this strange thing that is TTSA is and was?

For my part, I have come to believe that TTSA has run out of support, and thus steam, from the shadowy 'primary advisors' of TDL. Either because someone put a powerful foot down (for whatever reason) or because this was the intent all along. You can't get someone to throw themselves into deep water without a bit of encouragement and support after all.

My gut feeling, however, is that these 'primary advisors' probably thought it would be possible to get a lot of material out into the light. A sort of 'disclosure', if you will, of some material at least, if not of any truth. We know there is more footage, more data, but it seems to have dried up. There weres a lot more videos, remember, that they were going to release, but the plug seems to have been pulled on that.

If I was to speculate I would say that the reason for this is a combination of factors. Someone got cold feet because their identities were outed perhaps? Others with power might have been against the idea from the second they learned of it for their own reasons. Probably mainly either religious or out of embarrassment, or maybe some genuine worries about secret technologies getting out.

Whatever happened we seem now to be left with the secondary advisors and the men of TTSA, and little momentum. TDL is largely silenced, Elizondo is running the publicity side and others seem to be drifting a bit away from it all.

I guess the main question is if Puthoff, Elizondo, Justice and the others have enough momentum to pry the door open for more, and I do hope better, evidence to be properly, and unequivocally, released? Will the flood of FOIAs get us anything worthwile? The rest of the videos? The whole of the videos? Sensor data from the Nimitz incident? Maybe the work of Dean, Greenewald and others can pry some more out from the cracks?

So far, I am forced to conclude, TTSA have been a great disappointment, and perhaps we will be left with only some slight entertainment as the dust settles and the domains, eventually, expire.

Or maybe there are still much to be learned if we can but peel back some of truth's protective layers?

A shock announcement, about an announcement amongst other things;

"“My little ol’ company @tothestarsacademy has grown so much over the year… and we have now partnered with many groups within the Department of Defense, the US Intelligence Community, Major Defense Aerospace, and other International Governments. We have sold multiple TV Series (announcement coming) and our first Feature Film aims to enter production in May. We have achieved an enormous and revolutionary breakthrough with the A.D.A.M. Material Science Project, and we have completed Program Plans for Beamed Energy Propulsion and SpaceTime Metric.

Yikes… A lot to say here. We have also brought on a new TTSA ADVISORY BOARD MEMBER Chris Herndon from THE WHITE HOUSE, who has decades of US Gov Experience- Chris was until recently the Chief Information Officer overseeing all Secure Communications for the Executive Branch. Chris supports our effort, and believes strongly in our mission to learn more about revolutionary technologies, help the US Gov’s efforts on UAP matters, and to educate the public on our findings. Exciting times ahead. Sometimes I laugh when people say ‘he quit his band to chase Aliens’ – ha.

If you only knew that all the while I was sitting in the Captain’s seat during the biggest event to ever happen to mankind. #Confirmation.”

Source ;
www.tinyurl.com/y43um7eh

a reply to: pigsy2400

A bumper year of excitement so it seems...

originally posted by: pigsy2400
"...If you only knew that all the while I was sitting in the Captain’s seat during the biggest event to ever happen to mankind. #Confirmation.”

I don't think he must get out much. Or read very widely. Or even know the difference between being entertained and critically engaging with information as presented.

It'd be a thrill to be proven wrong, biggest ever and all that, wow, but unless he does have anything that potentially monumental, then he is somewhat setting himself up to disappoint. Even most children are not that forgiving of the over-hyped. If he wants credibility then he needs to tone down his rhetoric and gush a little less.

a reply to: KilgoreTrout

If he wants credibility then he needs to tone down his rhetoric and gush a little less.

I think it is a little too late for that, alas.

At this point it is either to deliver spectacularly or fail miserably and utterly I'm afraid.

All in, so to speak.

a reply to: beetee

I really don't understand exactly what TTSA is. Before it was announced it was TTS. Tom DeLonge's merchandise company with a whole stack of shell companies set up around it plus a non-existent hotdog franchise.

Then they added an aerospace guy (who has genuine credentials but seemingly very little to do), a former CIA guy who is now a consultant for the CIA , a hokey $cientologist scammer who runs a company that produces theories and two guys working security. No business consultants at all.

Then TTSA is registered as Services Allied to Motion Pictures. The mission statement being:

To The Stars Academy strives to be a powerful vehicle for change by creating a consortium among science, aerospace and entertainment that will work collectively to allow gifted researchers the freedom to explore exotic science and technologies with the infrastructure and resources to rapidly transition them to products that can change the world.

What a word salad! It says nothing about what their Spice Boys tell us it's about.

Yet before it all DeLonge was telling us aliens were the former gods and shouting Jesus would stop you getting abducted by aliens. How men in underground bunkers were scratching their heads about all of this ET problem day and night. That was until he came knocking on their door.

Since then TTSA has produced a lot of announcements about announcements, stamped their logo on some videos that are not that impressive, and released a bunch of documents that make no mention at all of UFOs and don't look official either. Their National Security Advisor even leaked Zondo's drafted, never sent, retirement letter. Zondo's public statements are a complete contradiction to what Tom was saying.

If Tom had come out and said he was venturing into the motion picture business to make some money to fund a documentary or two and launch new business ventures further down the line then that would have sounded perfectly legitimate. However it wouldn't have got the massive publicity that TTSA has got.

Of course there are people out there (recruited or not) who have convinced themselves that everything released by TTSA is amazing and fantastic and that you can't set yourself up as a 'disclosure' company so you have to register it as entertainment. Well OK believe that if you want. But we are getting to the point where the constant bluffing and "guess what's coming" proclamations are wearing thin. You can only fool all of the people half the time and half of the people at half time. We are almost at the end of extra-time and into the penalty shoot-out now.

My gut feeling is that this is some form of operation like Studio Six many years ago.

a reply to: pigsy2400

This Chris Herndon guy seems to have been given an ethics waiver by Trump. Which appears to mean that a conflict of interest was waived for him to fulfil his role as the White House's information technology director. He had worked for CSRA previously. He was granted this waiver "to provide technology services to the White House".

Now most people probably missed it but he was also named in the updated TTSA SEC filings

Chris Herndon is a C-level Executive and Entrepreneur and currently serves as Chief Operating Officer of TechCentrics, Inc. Previously, he served for more than twenty years in the federal government, most recently as Deputy Assistant to the President and the Director of White House Information Technology. Prior to his position at the White House, Chris held C-Level and senior IT leadership positions with some of Washington DC area’s most respected government systems integrators, including Client Executive for CSRA, Chief Technology Officer for SRA International, Managing Director for MorganFranklin Corp., and COO/Co-Founder of TechCentrics, Inc.

He began his career in telecommunications as a Department of the Navy civilian, where he supported organizations such as the National Reconnaissance Office, Office of Naval Research, Office of the Secretary of Defense, and the White House Communications Agency. He holds a B.S. in electrical engineering from the University of Maryland

So still no serious business people on the team. A techie guy. Now what could he be needed for?

a reply to: mirageman

I do agree it's all nonsense...and hilarious.

TDL thinks he's the captain of the USS Confirmation! Grant Cameron was right, they do pick these people for their egos.

However I do wonder if they ever will "announce" the phone app they banged on about so much in the early days. Might explain this tech guys involvement or as someone who can better monitor online traffic about TTSA. It's not hard to do, the company I work for does it, whenever the companies name is mentioned online we get alerted to it and can review that content including metadata etc. If you want to control a narrative, I would think it imperative that you did monitor it.

This UAP sightings app they spoke of early on detailed; Recording of UAP sightings, image and video uploads along with notes and GPS location etc.

Whats interesting about that is they could use data such as that in many different ways. Sell the data to aerospace companies, so they can track if any black program aircraft have been sighted or "adversary" aircraft. But also locate the "experiencers" themselves and get their data and location.

If I was in the MIC it's what I would do, the cost of getting an external company to develop such an app is only around $50,000.

Maybe if this were the case (doubtful but interesting to ponder) that's why they brought the guy on.

Thinking outloud.....

a reply to: mirageman

This whole thing has been a CIA project that never seems to really get off the ground. Maybe that's intentional. i can't believe Delonge could be the victim of so many random setbacks - humiliating Wikileaks exposure and a massive presidential election upset that kicks your powerful allies to the curb, a freaking New York Times front page story that (incredibly) lands with a thud, books that sell in shockingly low numbers, getting scooped by the Project Blue Book series covering the exact same ground while your pitches are stuck in development hell, sitting on overripe three year old documentary footage that is starting to really smell... He's either incredibly deceitful, the most unlucky guy ever or... the latest in a long line of useful stooges. Or all of the above.

As for the other characters, I hope NDA kings Knapp and Kean and Blumenthal get something out of the dings they have taken to their credibility these past few years.

I wonder if they've offered Delonge the Holloman Air Force Base footage yet.

a reply to: coursecatalog

"The goal of this project is to change the perception of the youth towards government" -; Tom De Longe email to John Podesta from the wikileaks.

This can be further reinforced by TDL comments regarding evil Aliens vs the good gubment...

a reply to: pigsy2400

I don't see how anyone can argue with that. Its fact.

a reply to: pigsy2400

Whats interesting about that is they could use data such as that in many different ways. Sell the data to aerospace companies, so they can track if any black program aircraft have been sighted or "adversary" aircraft. But also locate the "experiencers" themselves and get their data and location.

There is a definite angle there, especially with "adversary" aircraft that are becoming so advanced (or weird) that they will be reported as UFOs. I mean, a lot of "peer states" are said to be hard at work on their own "stealth" and "exotic propulsion" technologies.

Maybe it is now beneficial to get the people to report such sightings because they may be interesting for the IC from a "adversary" perspective? So that is why the UFO has to be respectable to report again?

On the other hand, the US has no shortage of highly sophisticated sensor systems that probably have been in place on the ground, as well as in space, for years, so unless these systems are very inadequate and helpless against these perceived adversaries' new emerging technologies, I can't really see that the deploying the public as an extremely unreliable sensor array (using the good 'ole mark 1 eyeball) will be very beneficial.

You get a lot of sensors for free, I suppose, if budget constraints are an issue. But there are probably better methods that would yield even better results with much more accuracy, so I don't quite see it.

If the app has some ulterior motive, I suspect it would have to be a bit more about the people doing the actual reporting than what they are reporting.