Bigelow, UFOs, MUFON and ‘DeLonge’ Road to AATIP

originally posted by: BeefNoMeat
I ventured into the dregs of the Internet and read the YT comments on his Australian TV interview, some sleuth said Firmage bought Skinwalker from Bigelow...oh the irony — even if its 💯 false.

Careful... ownership of the UFOtainment Ranch seems a no-go area for ATS speculation.

Not quite sure why - I mean, who bloody cares anyway? They could say Trump bought it and I would hardly raise an eyebrow.

Perhaps a mod will explain.

a reply to: ConfusedBrit

I think the reasons are far more...well whatever, who cares who bought a farm that the DIA did experiments on people at.

No wonder people saw weird stuff, especially if they were being messed with mentally or whatever and no wonder that nothing was apparently picked up on cameras. I reckon the cameras were to monitor those people being messed with...

I'm sure the new owner(s) will make use of the filing for "story telling" as it has been registered. I'm pretty sure we will see "Skinwalker 2: The Wolf Bites Back" in the next few years, it has got to pay for itself after all..

Anyhoo....

a reply to: pigsy2400

Agreed.

a reply to: ConfusedBrit

Careful... ownership of the UFOtainment Ranch seems a no-go area for ATS speculation. 

Shhhhhh.

a reply to: ConfusedBrit

no need to speculate anyway, the name is easy to find if you care to do some basic sleuthing

a reply to: mirageman

Nah, man, I’ll take your word for it. Just a big Achenbach fan and when I saw the byline and knew the author I was putting in the time to read it all. Sounds very familiar, indeed.

I put in some time just getting to your post — needle in the haystack among that thread page.

It’s interesting. But in my cursory, internet sleuthing, Joe isn’t some mad scientist ridiculed in life to be later heralded posthumously; he’s literally spinning his wheels, if YouTube or LinkedIn is to be believed. Buyer beware type sh$t. Oh well. Thanks for that way back link.

At least he mentioned ‘anti-gravity’ being an engineering problem, first and foremost.

Interestingly enough, did read about fusion today...still an engineering problem.

originally posted by: pigsy2400
a reply to: ctj83

The biological is the most interesting part in all of this...simply because it's not going away. Lights in the sky on the other hand.....

Some people just have magnetic personalities!

Am back to this one. Can you expand more Pigs. Am just getting into the groove with this.

a reply to: Baablacksheep

that's another thread in itself Baa... don't think that people would be that bothered with it to be honest. Its not fantastical enough for the ufo crowd..its boring, factual and slightly scientific....the opposite of what most within this field like...

Was Joe Firmage's book "The Truth" ever "reprinted or reissued" or is the volume that was released in March of 1999 the only one?

ha.... He had a mormon family / background too... interesting...espeically with the beliefs of some others prominent in this field.. gold plates and all.

a reply to: pigsy2400

Am not really sure the score on this one Pigs. Its only recently have become aware of this Truth book. Maybe others will know re this ?

All very interesting for certain.

www.amazon.com...=cm_cr_dp_mb_rvw_1?ie=UTF8&cursor=1

a reply to: Whatsthisthen

A whole heap of synchronicity sprang from that giving of a name.

hmmm... looks like i am in the right road

there are some things you don't want to know.

super-soldiers?

a reply to: humanoidlord

Not to be rude and my following comments do have good intentions, but your posts are not really anything to do with the thread at large.

Bigelow, TTSA and TDL and all associated programs and areas of interest that lead back to them are.

a reply to: Whatsthisthen

ok sigh, but that was very interesting

OK, getting back on topic:
anybody read this article:
medium.com...@kalkorff/exposing-harry-reids-black-budget-ufo-program-cia-disinfo-ops-71a044802b27
some interesting stuff there specially related to rich doty

a reply to: pigsy2400

the UFO phenomena is 90% external but it still has a lot to do with mind control and brainwashing

a reply to: humanoidlord

thats really weird... I was looking at that page a few hours ago

I know, that we all know (huh) that Joe Firmage was more than likely supposed to be the TDL guy....but I found these comments and quotes interesting none-the-less... more to throw on the bonfire..

"I have personally sat across the table from top leaders and brilliant minds of the military and science, on multiple occasions, who have confirmed the basic truth of the UFO phenomenon....Based upon what these leaders have told me, I do not believe that most elected officials or military intelligence officials have much more knowledge than the general public on the subject of UFOs....The organization responsible for managing the domain is com-prised of less than 1,000 people and was long ago privatized and pulled entirely outside of the machinery of political and military command structure. It reports to no publicly elected or appointed leader, but rather a self-selected governing body which today is composed of a larger number of industrialists than military or civil officials.”

Its Tom De Lo....oh.. no its Joe Firmage!

This is quote taken from Joe Firmage. LMH was one of Firmage's "UFO Experts" at the time as well.....tumbleweeds..... I don't need to be rude do I... moving on...

His other rumored "UFO Expert" at the time also said these comments;

""It's going to be something like, '50 years ago, the Air Force found this stuff and it blew their minds and for 50 years they couldn't decide what to tell you. We still haven't figured it out and we don't know where it came from and we don't know if anyone was on board, but it's weird stuff, folks.'"

- and -

"We're looking for something that doesn't give away the farm," he said. "To simply say 'Oh yes, it's all true,' is like throwing a giant monkeywrench in the clockworks. It's a very risky thing to do."

Source;
www.abqjournal.com...

That was Michael Lindemann...

This whole thing is just a re-run, even the language, the wording, and funnily some of the very same people......
Poor Joe.. he was supposed to be Zondos bestie......well..he's probably better off in retrospect...

a reply to: humanoidlord

If you also look way to the bottom in the response section you will also note Dr Sarfatti and what he says.