Bigelow, UFOs, MUFON and ‘DeLonge’ Road to AATIP

a reply to: Sublant

You're making the assumption that there is something to disclose....

It's possible that they might as flummoxed about it as we are. As it's possible they do hold secrets...but are they the secrets that ufology has already decided they are!

Also, if you'll indulge me, if ufology is to be believed and the narrative that's been pushed about these "secrets" they aren't in government hands apparently, it's all in private corporations, so asking the government for your secrets is pointless.

That's the issue with disclosure.... People have already decided what it is...and we don't know what we dont know...because we dont know!

originally posted by: pigsy2400

That's the issue with disclosure.... People have already decided what it is...and we don't know what we dont know...because we dont know!

a reply to: ConfusedBrit

I dunno

a reply to: Sublant

Let's try Walmart.

a reply to: mirageman

What I have taken from their investors meeting;

* They are looking for contracts for work within the defence industry.

* They are looking to basically become the new Bluebook and UAP data collection, collation and analysis.

* They want to build / own a leading in class physics laboratory.

* Tom wants to eventually take the company public in 5years time! - no one "actual lols" - I just did..

* They claim that thier Beam energy launch system will be able to put objects into orbit at a 10% of the usual cost. (if it was that good Nasa would have used it themselves 20 years ago)

* Who knows who took my clothes gets a mention, yay...UAP education for the masses...Oh wait what?

* More ego massaging educational materials are.....

Oh I can't be arsed.....what a load of old cobblers....

Ex Alphabetti Spaghetti guys who think that they are gonna get mega rich off of DOD contracts for provding services to their ex employers, whilst peddling "educational materials" about UFO'S to the masses whilst the soundtrack to UFOLOGY will undoubtedly be for sale and take a big fat guess which band will be doing it......and where you will be able to buy it.

a reply to: pigsy2400

Exactly.

If we believe even a snippet of what many 'believers' believe and promoters like to promote then;

- Aliens were supposed to have crashed and burned at Roswell. The tech was seeded into human society.

- Some people believe aliens made a pact with Eishenhower back in the 1950s in exchange for technology after they buzzed the Capitol Building.

- Aliens were supposedly involved in many other incidents. Including Bob Lazar's story which resulted in him working on alien technology at Area 51.

- Eric Davis even stated there was a UFO crash retrieval project mothballed in 1989

- Ancient aliens theorists postulate that we are actually stupid apes and aliens invented everything.....

But then TTSA are trying to tell us that they are investigating materials and UAP cases and as Zondo so eloquently put on TV "We may not be alone"....

Hit of Myth?



These aren't the disclosures you are looking for....

NM

a reply to: mirageman

Perhaps Bigelow needs to scrub those aliens off his buildings...

a reply to: ConfusedBrit

Please do not steal my cartoons without seeking permission.

That was funny. Not as good as the two Zonnies though!

a reply to: mirageman

What do they say? Plagiarism is the sincerest form of flattery.

Actually, I didn't realise Zondo's caricature was your own creation, so I'm mightily impressed. I've been sketching caricatures my entire life - much to the horror of those around me! - so I should really have pulled my own lazy finger out.

originally posted by: pigsy2400
a reply to: mirageman

What I have taken from their investors meeting;

* They are looking for contracts for work within the defence industry.

* They are looking to basically become the new Bluebook and UAP data collection, collation and analysis.

* They want to build / own a leading in class physics laboratory.

* Tom wants to eventually take the company public in 5years time! - no one "actual lols" - I just did..

* They claim that thier Beam energy launch system will be able to put objects into orbit at a 10% of the usual cost. (if it was that good Nasa would have used it themselves 20 years ago)

* Who knows who took my clothes gets a mention, yay...UAP education for the masses...Oh wait what?

* More ego massaging educational materials are.....

Oh I can't be arsed.....what a load of old cobblers....

Ex Alphabetti Spaghetti guys who think that they are gonna get mega rich off of DOD contracts for provding services to their ex employers, whilst peddling "educational materials" about UFO'S to the masses whilst the soundtrack to UFOLOGY will undoubtedly be for sale and take a big fat guess which band will be doing it......and where you will be able to buy it.

is Leik Myrabo involved?

originally posted by: pigsy2400
a reply to: Willtell

The "warp drive" stuff isn't new and certain individuals are in books and materials going back to the mid 90s on that front. They are just shoe horning in old material into ufology 2.0.

I think there is huge tell in mainstream ufologists within ufology at least, of thier critique of TTSA in the early days and then an almost 180 in support of them.

I postulate that they saw an opportunity to get thier feet under that table at the impending disclosure feast and co-opted into it. With TTSA out to destroy ufology, you could say that as the main voices have been co-opted, when it is run into the ground...whose going to be left afterwards that is respected and the voice of reason?

For some reason, the breakthrough propulsion guys seem to hang around our crowd of birds...

a reply to: 1ofthe9

Good to see back in the thread 1of9

Probably not but the USAF did authorise a $5million grant to look into it more at the backend of 2007-09.

Maybe why the are interested in the "alien metals" see if they can reproduce any that would resistance 30,000 degrees that the spinning mechanism would need to endure.

How they intend to put any form of deliverable cargo into space on of those things is beyond me...

originally posted by: pigsy2400
a reply to: 1ofthe9

Good to see back in the thread 1of9

Probably not but the USAF did authorise a $5million grant to look into it more at the backend of 2007-09.

Maybe why the are interested in the "alien metals" see if they can reproduce any that would resistance 30,000 degrees that the spinning mechanism would need to endure.

How they intend to put any form of deliverable cargo into space on of those things is beyond me...

It has a lot of potential believe it or not. I just wish it wasn't wrapped up in TTSA.

originally posted by: 1ofthe9

originally posted by: pigsy2400
a reply to: 1ofthe9

Good to see back in the thread 1of9

Probably not but the USAF did authorise a $5million grant to look into it more at the backend of 2007-09.

Maybe why the are interested in the "alien metals" see if they can reproduce any that would resistance 30,000 degrees that the spinning mechanism would need to endure.

How they intend to put any form of deliverable cargo into space on of those things is beyond me...

It has a lot of potential believe it or not. I just wish it wasn't wrapped up in TTSA.

What am I to believe the potential of for it not to be affiliated TTSA? Are you asserting “warp drive” propulsion has shown potential, even promising breakthrough-type-past-the-heliosphere-in-jiffy tech?

I can’t say for certain that there are forum members who “know where the goods are” unequivocally, but the aviation forum has some astute posters and a certain ‘FSME’ has said the following w.r.t. military versus civilian ‘breakthrough’ tech: Technology Gap in Civilian and Military Endeavors


ETA: TL;DR concerning linked post: there’s nothing in the US (and by default the world) military inventory that is remotely close to warp
Drive/FTL/anti-gravity propulsion; the military is 8-10 years ahead in some areas, 8-10 years behind the civilian world in other areas. Warp
Drive is laughable...there are secrets, but they are far removed from relativistic, interstellar travel. Just read the quote from Kiku (sp?) on this thread’s first page...

a reply to: Baablacksheep

so does ufo jesus, lol
what a strange character and people still complain when we make fun of them

a reply to: mirageman

wow what a surprise, extremelly vague revelations about nothing!

a reply to: pigsy2400

I can remember the Two Dogs thing, which legendary ATS member actually went to the offices? Or was it linked to a separate blog?What a hero...asking the guy on the desk where the hot dogs were at lol...

wasn't it mirageman himself?

a reply to: Sublant

do the research yourselves instead of begging to the big cheese

a reply to: mirageman

- Eric Davis even stated there was a UFO crash retrieval project mothballed in 1989

its blaffling how casually he mentioned that and i have yet to see any evidence for it