Bigelow, UFOs, MUFON and ‘DeLonge’ Road to AATIP

a reply to: pigsy2400

Perhaps sooner or later the "alien" question and it's involvement behind the scenes might answer more questions then ignoring it.

The "alien" aspect is on an individual basis, percolating up through ordinary society, ordinary people.

Mankind thinks hierarchically, governments, groups, the TTSA.

My suggestion is that by thinking any "alien' involvement necessarily works hierarchically is probably wrong.

As far as the TTSA having no real disclosure and investigative is my opinion too. So is the manipulation of society.

Yet I can see the "aliens" there too.

I use quotation marks around "aliens". I don't believe they are "ETs" but to call them yellows and Tamas as I do would not be useful to anyone but me.

a reply to: Willtell

people don't care about delongue
they only care about zondo, because ex-government people never lie yada yada blablabla.....

a reply to: Whatsthisthen

of course they are already here, i have heard several accounts of indrid cold types shopping in the market and eating at restaurants and nobody giving a F#CK
and no, i ain't being sarcastic

originally posted by: humanoidlord
a reply to: Whatsthisthen

of course they are already here, i have heard several accounts of indrid cold types shopping in the market and eating at restaurants and nobody giving a F#CK
and no, i ain't being sarcastic

Is there a kind of Ufologist 'Neighbourhood Watch' system in place for the areas where these sightings occur?

If they have slotted their way so comfortably into society, then surely we can 'monitor' them, too?

You could be in charge of such a private op - it's your calling in life, humanoidlord!

In fact, you could be the new David Vincent for the 21st century...

a reply to: ConfusedBrit

They are in the markets!!

a reply to: pigsy2400

This is indicative that the narrative was all laid out before and planned. Metamaterials, Antenna etc...

I cant disagree.

Here’s a man who goes to the government, a government that's been lying and deceiving the American people for decades, and says— make me a puppet!

This time, since they have an able and willing puppet they get Zondo to run the show. In the past, they had FAKE UFOlogists like Bill Moore and unfortunate sincere but deceived folks like Bennewitz and not total control…It got a little out of control so this time with TDL and his willing puppetry they want and have more control over whatever disinformation they want to disseminate.

As I have said many times in this thread, the disinformation revolves around an upgraded UFO paradigm they want to push of antigravity, warp drives, biotech engineering, maybe a little IDH (they don’t know a damn thing about since their materialists), and other nonsense that is already filtering inside the UFO community.

Indeed, the Aliens are demons in caves is not for the millennials. They want a new distraction to send people on wild goose chases all over, this time the solar system and science fiction elements mixed with quasi-spiritual IDH, ETH speculations. A fertile field they can milk for decades in the YouTube era.

So we can call this, the YouTube hypothesis!

a reply to: Willtell

The YTH has a ring to it!

The issue is that we are in an ever changing world now, where here I am on a mobile device talking about something on a platform you could read at the north pole if you had an Internet connection. We didn't have that in the 70s/80s, commercialy at least.

I think they realised slowly I might add, that they had to get onboard and down with the kids in order to be more successful and to resuscitate an old campaign back into life. TDL was just the right useful idiot, he tried it with the paranormal before with his "stranger times" website and initiative that went nowhere. People seem to forget this isn't his first rodeo in this arena.

It really is telling I believe that the MIC picked up where the left off. Reinvigorating interest in the old stories/pillars of ufology, whilst bringing something "new" to the table...even though the f4.mpg was on the old fightersweep forums years ago..dig around wayback machine...That's how I got it...it's there in the index page!

The other padawan has been off making tributes and "documentaries" to the other stories, whilst appearing independent, I would seriously challenge anyone to state that they are fully independent of eachother.

a reply to: pigsy2400

I wonder who spent so long creating Mj12 documents? I can't help but feel that the never got to show all that was planned for that campaign?

a reply to: ConfusedBrit

this is a old phenomena ( active since at least the 1950's)
its likely you have already seen one of them but paid no attention, they are of course more common in window areas
examples:
youtu.be...
youtu.be...
youtu.be...
youtu.be...
youtu.be...

a reply to: ctj83

either doty or bill moore (who seems to have disappeared from ufology)

a reply to: humanoidlord

I suspect that the provenance might be a little older, and they might have unearthed or deployed a complex piece of theatre designed for purposes not alien.

Talking of vanishing, Shandera is far more interesting in my opinion.

a reply to: pigsy2400

The other padawan has been off making tributes and "documentaries" to the other stories, whilst appearing independent, I would seriously challenge anyone to state that they are fully independent of eachother.

I would say that what happens in Vegas seems to reverberate around the world rather than stay there.



Because there are some very obvious connections that you don't need any degree of separation to establish. But maybe we need to point them out to those who haven't followed this from the start or have just jumped on the bus.

First you have Tom DeLonge. He once played 4 chords and proclaimed his love for dogs.



Then you have Jeremy Corbell a photographer, fashion designer, author, mixed martial arts athlete and instructor. All round sensitive sort of guy. He became a full on documentary dude on "Skinwalker" and "Lazar" after grooming I guess?



Hey I appreciate that someone might be taking a back seat here on the way to the 2015 UFO Conference. But it's not like these people are complete strangers to each other is it?




Meanwhile back at the Ranch......



How independent can it all be? That depends on the degree of separation I suppose. Maybe they aren't being funded from the same sources. Yet you have the Silva machine blagger bragging about 'insiders' with TTSA. Jeremy is one of them who knew about four, yes four, UFO programs within the US DoD. Even though he isn't connected to TTSA at all is he?

Then there is Chris Mellon who is on the board of UFOData with Leslie Kean. One of the authors of the NYT piece from a year ago.....The Son of UFOGod, Twitter poster 'Jay' who finds everything 'absolutely fascinating' after stumbling on things perhaps he was meant to find. Then he's suddenly being asked on TTSA friendly podcasts. Where he hasn't got a lot to say.

Need I go on?

Perhaps I do. He was on a podcast on the TTSA year in review. He doesn't say much apart from how 'fascinating' he finds things.

Sadly the others guests struggle to articulate themselves and sound like they haven't a clue about what TTSA is all about....

Host : Anyone interested in whether Tom DeLonge's going to keep a roof over his head?

Female Commentator : I think they actually poster information on their website. I think what they're trying to do right now is ask for donations from different states. And they also post like errm,. uhh, basically, reports indicating them money they have received. So they've made it very public you know. They haven't tried to hide anything.

Host : Yeh it took a while they weren't immediately able to solicit investments in a couple of states and that kinda came along later. But in general their money worries are their money worries. I think it's all about cash flow that initial for fund raiser for the two million that kept 'em going. And err now they've got TV deals that we haven't gone into too much. But they've got TV deals and the pre-production costs or development costs err that's gonna provide some cash flow as well. And running any kind of organisation if it's for profit or not for profit. Err it's all about the cash flow and err I think they're gonna be fine.

Female Commentator: One thing I wanted to mention. It's still kind of a boring detail but it's still important to note that the To the Stars is a public benefit corporation. And you know what that means basically for example for public benefits corporation that is usually a corporation created by the government that performs a specific function for the benefit of the public such as a public library ..or ...or ...errr.. BIG adult day centre. Errm but more broadly a public benefit corporation can mean any corporation created for a charitable purpose. But errm so these are usually called non=profit organisations. Errm ,err this is not a..this is a basically charitable corporation called a public benefit corporation. So you can give them money. So they can keep going. That..that sounds a little boring. But it's important that people know that's what they're for....

Male Guest: .... There was some other comment about the SEC report.Err that people jumped on that showed $37m of debt. And so there were some reports that said 'Oh Look these guys are that far in the red. But there was some later corrections to that in explanations in fact To the Stars came out with an explanation kind of chastising that one report saying you know if you don't know what you're talking about don't put this in...in print as ...in news... because you don't know what you're talking about. They kind of explained what those numbers meant and indeed it was sort of OK I get it. It's complex financial stuff that was kind of boring but it made sense after you read that so..

Host : Got it...[I wonder if he really did 'get it'?]

Check it out yourselves : youtu.be...

Now work that one out for yourselves. But if you think that's a good explanation about the TTSA financials then you need to perhaps understand that weaponizing your curiosity is not going to produce anything meaningful to you.

a reply to: ctj83

doty mentioned MJ-12 before the papers were found

a reply to: mirageman

i agree this is fishy as hell
somehow i predict silva and ufo jesus are going to get exclusive private interviews with delongue and zondo

What I think is important is the information about the other UFO programs with the stated 10 billion dollar budget.

If, and this is still a big if, this info is even remotely true, IMO one of two things has to be true.

1: Government is spending huge amounts of taxpayer money on UFOs. Why would they do this if there is no there there? So, there is there there and it is something you can work on and use huge resources on it.

About the biggest news in the last millennium.

Or

2: There is no there there and the government has for years been pouring huge amounts of taxpayer dollars and other resources on empty woo-woo, for some strange reason.

About the biggest news in the last century, at least.

Again some reference for the money involved. 10 billion dollars is more than the entire budget of US Dept. of Commerce, a cabinet department.

Almost twice the budget of NYPD, the largest police force in the US with about 55 000 employees.

IF the news about the programs is correct of course.

2019 is going to be interesting.

a reply to: humanoidlord

of course they are already here, i have heard several accounts of indrid cold types shopping in the market and eating at restaurants and nobody giving a F#CK
and no, i ain't being sarcastic

Any idea what the plan is?

a reply to: ConfusedBrit

My grandfather used to watch The Invaders on TV in the sixties. Being a science type he liked the show. Me, well it just scared the daylights out of me.

Like the family is sitting down to watch a horror movie on TV and no one but you is noticing what is looking in the window.




a reply to: Willtell

Foreshame Willtell, nobody likes to be called a "demon" or "entity". Hurt feelings and all that. It is true.

Though I can't talk really when I call one small "girl" Wednesday Addams.



I'm teaching her what friendship is in human terms.

Don't dissect your friends dear. No dear you can't take me home and keep me, a friend is not a pet.

Just different is all.




a reply to: mirageman

Isn't Los Vagas all about showbiz, gambling, mafiosa, magic shows . . . . Oh look! There's Elvis!

a reply to: mirageman

Don't know if it means anything, but Blair Bigelow is friendly with Ivanka Trump and has met with others of Trump family and administration.

a reply to: pigsy2400

I’m just curious why we're not holding TDL to all his pre TTSA rhetoric he was espousing.

They have literally produced NOTHING. I don’t count those weak videos they uploaded.

originally posted by: Sublant
a reply to: mirageman

Don't know if it means anything, but Blair Bigelow is friendly with Ivanka Trump and has met with others of Trump family and administration.

First real link to Trump in all this I've seen.