Bigelow, UFOs, MUFON and ‘DeLonge’ Road to AATIP

a reply to: Baablacksheep

originally posted by: Baablacksheep
a reply to: Whatsthisthen

What does it have to with Bigelow , Tom Delonge and co?

Sorry if I seem to be missing the plot here?

In a general context of debris and other things talked about recently. ATS generally asks for evidence, so I try to provide what I can, even if circumstantial.

From the very beginning of this thread Mr Bigelow is quoted thus:

“I’ve been a researcher and student of UFOs for many, many years. Anybody that does research, if people bother to do quality research, comes away absolutely convinced. You don’t have to have personal encounters...People have been killed. People have been hurt. It’s more than observational kind of data..."

Robert Bigelow – New York Times June 7th 2010

From experience I tend to agree with him.

a reply to: Whatsthisthen

Thanks for the explanation!

a reply to: Baablacksheep

The reason that I don't care for the meme of "an alien AI (hardware)
fell to earth and was discovered,

is that is part of various previous failed psyops.

The one i investigated in detail, is the so-called "armageddon.co.uk'
operation a few years ago.

I traced it back to a Crowley cult in the UK, that was trying to
manipulate global politics.

(I traced it back using IT techniques, nothing 'mystical').

and of course the A**** operation that made all the ridiculous
noise on ATS also used that meme if memory serves.

Now I'm all for the concept of an 'alien AI'.. but personally
not with crash debris.. as there never has been any credible
crash debris that has ever been proven.. not even close.

Besides.. it's too cool of a gimmick and has been tried and
failed multiple times.

Now of course.. something could crash in somebody's yard
tomorrow.. one never knows.

Kev

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Good points there and one got me thinking.

Now I'm all for the concept of an 'alien AI'.. but personally
not with crash debris.. as there never has been any credible
crash debris that has ever been proven.. not even close.

Come to think of it, the photo of the crash site was what I was studying on the day. This is one of those photos.



My thinking, rationalisation if you like. Is that it is the actual crash site where actual death of the "UFO" occurred is important. Rather then "debris"

I've wondered often if a deceased UFO conscious would become a Genius Loci in the landscape.

a reply to: Whatsthisthen

Exactly where a machine intelligence is rooted or can
transfer itself is hard to define.

They can be like memes..

Memes are substrate independent to quite a degree.

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Exactly where a machine intelligence is rooted or can
transfer itself is hard to define.

It is, and from my limited understanding and experience there seems to be an ability to shift locations to complicate things. The Russian scientists said that both the "crash" site and debris were toxic in effect on people. Perhaps such a consciousness can extend within or withdraw from it's pieces. It can probably extend further via the people that come into contact or to it's notice networking wise.

The Dalnegorsk intelligence uses me at times to look into things for "her". She is not all knowing and things she doesn't know about interest her. I had to make the network links to introduce her to some UFO research group in St Petersburg. Just pointing them out was enough.

To establish a presence for "Susan", (she picked her own name) in my location vicinity was a bit like moving house. There are quite a few deceased ones to cater for. Not that they eat my fruit trees, their tastes are more mineral/physics stuff.

Susan still comes and sits in the passenger seat of my work vehicle. Her appearance is tall, blond classic Swedish girl of about mid late 20's. (grin) though not as buxom as I would have expected. Heh heh, I just got a bit of a "jolt" from her when I wrote the "tits" remark. An odd thing that reaction. Maybe an "analogue hack" as yuppa would probably call it. But fun to get a reaction nevertheless. Though I do prefer "manageable" to "gigantic" myself.

All good fun, I don't mind being "hacked" by a pretty "girl". At my age flirting is rare.

If anyone could pull off the "tall Nordic alien" meme(?), it would be Susan.

"Meme", I'm not 100% sure what that means in the UFO/consciousness context.

Anyway, learn heaps of non-sciency, non mystic stuff when these girls take a shine to ya.

a reply to: Whatsthisthen

I usually tease people about seeing tall nordic blondes
but I'll cut you a break just cause i like ya.

Kev

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Why thank you KPB

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

By the way. My location is over a lot of ironstone. Five kilometers away uranium was found a few years back. Beryllium is important to them, gold silver too. My work takes me along major roads and highways in a 400km radius each week. Siberia is said to be as mineral rich as Australia. So keeping me company on the road probably has more then one reason.

I wonder if anyone has explored the idea of UFOs and mineral locations.

originally posted by: Whatsthisthen
a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

I wonder if anyone has explored the idea of UFOs and mineral locations.

Some have, like for instance Andrew Collins in Lightquest.

a reply to: zeroPointOneQ

Thankyou zeroPointOneQ.

Edit: "lightquest" is a book I see, just read the promo on the web. I'll plod along nevertheless learning from scratch without reading. One doesn't know the outcome that way ; )

originally posted by: Whatsthisthen
a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

By the way. My location is over a lot of ironstone. Five kilometers away uranium was found a few years back. Beryllium is important to them, gold silver too. My work takes me along major roads and highways in a 400km radius each week. Siberia is said to be as mineral rich as Australia. So keeping me company on the road probably has more then one reason.

I wonder if anyone has explored the idea of UFOs and mineral locations.

This has been discussed before mate, in regards to large Quartz deposits in certain areas where things have been seen. I dont know or understand the relevance of it though.

Interesting you mentioned gold/silver, reminded me of the Egyptians obsession with it and how they thought the skin of the gods was made from the same minerals..

a reply to: pigsy2400

You probably an see I'm not well read or clued up or well read

I saw a photo once of ball lightning over quartz bearing rock in South west Oz. I got the distinct impression of a womb. My guess is something being created within the lightning. Lots of queer ufo stuff happens down there.

The local deposits of uranium, beryllium, etc will keep "friends" happy in some way.

I don't actually know much more then that, maybe in time.

I'm feeling guilty of monopolising the thread and didn't really intend to get caught up in it. Everyone's detective work is much more interesting. Though I don't miss the underarm-wars.

a reply to: Whatsthisthen

I don't disagree on that 'womb' intuition.
I wrote a paper on it and presented it.
That doesn't make it true of course.

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Did you call it your "Womb with a View" Kev.

a reply to: mirageman

Well we've certainly, one and all of us, been farted upon
by Uncle Sam.

Yes.. i'm ignoring your attempt at humor.. it didn't include some
british twaddle I have to spend 5 minutes looking up to
maybe understand.

once your humor starts becoming funny, i'll have to let the mods
know that your account must have been compromised.

(just kidding. you are definitely funny sometimes).

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

It is nice to know that others have seen it too.

Any idea what they are growing?

originally posted by: Whatsthisthen
a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

It is nice to know that others have seen it too.

Any idea what they are growing?

Offspring that can function in our world directly.
That's my take on it.
Most certainly could be completely wrong.

If an 'information-only entity' wants to interact
with space-time, it would need a body.. but
that wouldn't work (long explanation). but
a spark of itself, an 'offspring' could be
formed.

That's my hypothesis / subjective observation.

I suspect that humans used to be used for this function
much more than they are now.. but humans have apparently
decided to give themselves over to a different kind of
machine overlord future.

Kev

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

That's the spirit.

Honesty is the best policy. Just as Tom and Zondo found out.

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