The Storm is Here 4,289 SEALED Federal Indictments

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: purplemer

You do understand what a sealed indictment means, right? Just because there are that many doesn't mean that they're going after all political figures. No one but the court involved knows who they're for and the charges involved. Just because they're real doesn't mean it has anything to do with going after politicians. And saying that it is doesn't make it true.

Yes i do know what it means and in the spirit of ats after posting your topic I shared myr opinion and in my opinion these indictments are for politicians and many are pedo related. My second thread followed the rules. Non where broken.

The thread is gone. I do not want an apology. would be nice if you reinstated the thread. Cant see that happening. But I and a lot of other people would like to know why.


Thank you.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: purplemer

Except for the really minor fact that I never once said anything about you. I said there were problems with the story. Unless you wrote it, that doesn't have anything to do with you and your opinions.

Prove the story false. I have yet to see anyone do that. But you hoax it anyway.?

a reply to: purplemer

One more time, with feeling.

The indictments are there. There is nothing linking them to anyone, let alone to 4300 politicians. Your opinion doesn't change that. Hal Jordan saying his super secret squirrel contacts think it does, doesn't make it fact. The only fact here is that there are sealed indictments, against unknown people, with unknown charges.

a reply to: purplemer

But you hoax it anyway.?

You presented the story...shouldn't it be on you to filter it before coming here with it?
If you are claiming it is true...the burden of proof is on you...not others.

Zaphod did nothing but respond to you....if you live in a glass house,you should be the last one throwing stones.

a reply to: Zaphod58

None of what you said proves the OP to be a hoax. Speculation about indictments (or anything else for that matter) is not the same thing as hoaxing. If it was, a whole lot of UFO threads and paranormal threads on ATS, by nature rather speculative topics, would automatically be labelled as hoaxes too, no?

And there has still not been offered any explanation whatsoever when it comes to exactly WHY the second thread - without Hal Turner as a source - was simply deleted.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: purplemer

One more time, with feeling.

The indictments are there. There is nothing linking them to anyone, let alone to 4300 politicians. Your opinion doesn't change that. Hal Jordan saying his super secret squirrel contacts think it does, doesn't make it fact. The only fact here is that there are sealed indictments, against unknown people, with unknown charges.

The indiments are there. We both agree on that.

There is nothing linking them to politicians. We agree on that. (This part in my second OP was just my opinion.)

So you are saying if we dont like your opinion we will hoax your thread.

Thanks you make no sense.

a reply to: DrumsRfun

You presented the story...shouldn't it be on you to filter it before coming here with it? If you are claiming it is true...the burden of proof is on you...not others. Zaphod did nothing but respond to you....if you live in a glass house,you should be the last one throwing stones.

The indictments are real. No one is debating that fact. My second thread linked just to the US.Gov site.

Under that I stated my opinion that the swamp is being drained of # politicians.

So you tell my why since it was you that removed it. Was it the link or was my opinion. Neither where mentioned in the PM you sent me.

whats with the burden of proof is on me. Its you that hoaxed the thread!

If i post a ufo thread are you going to hoax it because the burden of proof comes down to me tp prove it real. No you would hoax because you has evidence. You dont make sense.

Give me the rule so I can play. Stop moving them about.

Is my link to the usa gov incorrect or is my

a reply to: DrumsRfun

With all due respect Drums, technically OP is not claiming it is true. From the OP;

Can anyone confirm if this is real. Whats with all the politicians going around with medical boots on. Is that related. lf it is real, is it not confirmation that the swamp is being drained and that QAnon is spot on.

To me it looks as though in these times of dis/misinfo with so much going around the globe right now, the OP has brought some info to ATS and asked for help in legitimacy. I don't see whats wrong in asking for help.

And as of yet, and until the indictments are unsealed no one will know. So until that point I don't think it can be at all called a hoax.

Funny that is one thing I used to really like about ATS. It was a place I certainly felt that, if I needed to I could come here with info which goes against a 'particular scripted narrative' and ask for help in its authenticity. That doesn't seem to happen so much anymore.

Instead anyone with a slightly different view or with info that goes against a particular narrative are insulted and ridiculed..

It just doesn't make sense, this is a conspiracy site. Isn't this the kind of thing they were meant for?

Helping each other figure out what is really going on in the world. We all know that there is much that is kept from us. And we all know we are enslaved within a system that is currently destroying the planet and humanity.

It is important that info on all sides is looked at. And with the more eyes looking at it in different ways, the more likely it is we will all find the real truth.

originally posted by: MostlyReading
a reply to: Zaphod58

None of what you said proves the OP to be a hoax. Speculation about indictments (or anything else for that matter) is not the same thing as hoaxing. If it was, a whole lot of UFO threads and paranormal threads on ATS, by nature rather speculative topics, would automatically be labelled as hoaxes too, no?

And there has still not been offered any explanation whatsoever when it comes to exactly WHY the second thread - without Hal Turner as a source - was simply deleted.

Thank you for that. You are more elegant and precise in your wording than me. That is the question I would like an answer to.

Going to bed soon. Had enough for the day now :-)

a reply to: purplemer

First off, I didn't hoax your thread, so drop the martyr act when talking to me.

Second, you were told why your thread was put in the hoax bin and it didn't have a damn thing to do with your opinion, do drop the martyr act.

a reply to: fluff007

See this thread.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

a reply to: Zaphod58

I find your post insulting.

I see no "martyrs" here. Only people looking for straight answers.

a reply to: fluff007


I appreciate your opinion but critical thinking is not a one way street and we can agree on that at least.

I am speaking as a member.

If I gave you a piece of poo and said it was a sandwich,should I expect you to have a taste and enjoy it too??
Wish in one hand and poo in the other and there is reality.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: purplemer

First off, I didn't hoax your thread, so drop the martyr act when talking to me.

Second, you were told why your thread was put in the hoax bin and it didn't have a damn thing to do with your opinion, do drop the martyr act.

Please dont upset with me. Im tired and really I just want to go to bed. I appreciate you taking the time to attempt to answer my question.

I was refeering to my second thread. The one that was binned. So I would be very grateful if you could address the questions i asked.

I made the second thread and I obeyed the rules. But it got binned. It was the same as the first thread with a few amendemtns. I did this to stay in the terms and conditions and i removed what i was told was the offence.

I linked to the government website only

I stated the facts of the matter (that being that the swamp was being drained.

Thread was going well. Then is was gone.

If you could answer that one simple question why my thread was taken down I will just go to sleep.

Thank you

:-)

a reply to: DrumsRfun

In which case then you are defining a good proportion of ATS members as non critical thinkers. Some long time, respected and contributive members. A lot of people think the swamp is being drained of paedophile politicians.

If I gave you a piece of poo and said it was a sandwich,should I expect you to have a taste and enjoy it too?? Wish in one hand and poo in the other and there is reality.

Are you basically saying that OP's thread was hoaxed as you disagreed with OP's opinion? That appears to be in conflict with what Zaphod has said...

Second, you were told why your thread was put in the hoax bin and it didn't have a damn thing to do with your opinion, do drop the martyr act.

a reply to: fluff007

See my reply to you up the page. It explains things.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: fluff007

See this thread.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Yes my second thread contained no link to the naughty radio station link .I have said so several times and had no answer as to why the second thread was binned.

It contained a link to the gov website

It contained my opinion on what the indictments where for.

If it was not removed for the government link which i presume is allowed. I surmise it was removed just for my opinion. Unless it was removed by mistake and if so would you consider reinstating in please.

Thank you for your patients.

:-)

a reply to: Zaphod58

Thank you for the link. I already understand not using TRN as a source. OP has since changed the source though. So would you kindly explain what the problem is?

a reply to: fluff007

No. As I've said multiple times, we only discuss those things with the person involved, and never publicly. The only thread under discussion or that will be discussed is this one, which clearly links to Hal Turner.

No other thread will be discussed, and this is the last that I will say about it. If you have issues, feel free to send a message through the complaints feature asking, but only the OP will get an answer on it.

a reply to: Zaphod58

So can someone else start a thread, using .gov links and dicuss the same subject? Or is speculation about this over as deemed by the gods? I meen MODS?