New Year's Eve party in Berlin to have 'safe zone' for women

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: Theprodicalson

If you were born in my house and trashed it, took advantage of me and the home, would I be wrong to kick you out?
Also you are speculating. Someone in this thread already posted that Germany has an issue with sex crimes before migrants even became a so called 'problem'.

But you cant deport a citizen! There is nowhere to deport them too!

Migrants that commit crimes should be deported to there country of origin, it hardly a extreme or unreasonable measure.

a reply to: gortex

Don't know I was asking you , you misrepresented the wiki link you posted but anything to make your point eh , well done for getting "snowflakes" in there though.

And where is the misrepresentation? Are 35% of my fellow Krauts victims of sexual assault or not?

At least you've got my provocation right, there you have it. Context is somehow close to justify rape, eh? Let's melt together in the sunlight now, how's that?

a reply to: Theprodicalson

The host of the nation should be the ones to 'fix' the issue. If you invited them in, you better be able to control them. And deporting people back to their nation isn't really the fix to it.

I am insinuating that it's not the migrants that are the SOUL issue, it's the German government AND the migrants. To be honest, I think it's mostly the German governments fault. Canada doesn't have this issue and we take in nearly 250,000 people a year, including refugees.

a reply to: PublicOpinion

And where is the misrepresentation? Are 35% of my fellow Krauts victims of sexual assault or not?

Not.

Germany above the EU average with 35% having sufferedphysical and/or sexual violence

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: intrptr

It was reported that the assaults were committed by groups of Middle Eastern men , I guess they were Muslims but the ME has Christian communities too , their religion is not the issue their actions were the problem.

I agree, rape is a problem.

Thanks for being honest.

Its not refugees or 'Muslim rapists' that are 'the problem'. Bombing other countries to rubble, is.

a reply to: PublicOpinion

t's disappointing to see how many folks chime into the chorus though.

Safe Neocon zones.

The narrative becomes focused by misdirection, intentional or otherwise.

Waging unjust aggressive wars in foreign lands will be obfuscated by cries of rape and sexual abuse.

We have been conditioned to it.

a reply to: intrptr

I agree we've caused a lot of the problems in the ME but many of the migrant influx is coming from Africa where we haven't bombed.

originally posted by: CornishCeltGuy

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: CornishCeltGuy

Do you think the Red Cross are "bashing Muslims" by setting up this safe space?

To protect them from who?

I assume from rapists and men who sexually harrass or assault women?
Who else do you think? Your reply seems rather odd.

Just "Men"?

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: intrptr

I agree we've caused a lot of the problems in the ME but many of the migrant influx is coming from Africa where we haven't bombed.

Libya??

Somalia and Mali also, to name a recent few.

Edit: Central and sub Saharan Africa is hemorrhaging refugees thru Libya, so destabilized by NATO action there is little to no central gubment control of coast line, ongoing.

a reply to: intrptr

This thread is not asking if bombing the middle East is a bad idea. It's clearly about a safety pen and the implication it's there to protect women from sexual assault.

Every #ing post would be 10000 words if it had to cover the socio political origins of this safety pen. Use your gray matter your a smart man.

Very sad state of affairs, but entirely predictable and therefore in my view planned.
It's no longer safe to celebrate the New Year in one's own country. Terrible.

a reply to: SilverOwls

Isnt it funny how some people can make excuses for rape?

Not surprised though.

originally posted by: Theprodicalson
I am all for deportation.

Problem is where do you deport them too?

Israel pays cash to Rwanda and Uganda to take in unwanted blacks from the horn of Africa who have broken into the country. Perhaps they'll be up for some extra cash from Germany?

originally posted by: intrptr

originally posted by: CornishCeltGuy

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: CornishCeltGuy

Do you think the Red Cross are "bashing Muslims" by setting up this safe space?

To protect them from who?

I assume from rapists and men who sexually harrass or assault women?
Who else do you think? Your reply seems rather odd.

Just "Men"?

Well urm yep, men overwhelmingly commit the majority of sex crimes against women. Who else do you think?

a reply to: gortex

Fair enough. Let me ask a question then: is there any significant impact of migrants in the rape statistics or where do you get this whole "culture clash" thingy from?

I agree we've caused a lot of the problems in the ME but many of the migrant influx is coming from Africa where we haven't bombed.

Take the EU for example, we're ruining Africas markets with cheap crap while boldly fishing in their waters. The history of colonialisation is a long one and it's far from being over. Also, the Islamic State is making progress exploiting the chaos in Africa.
With all that in mind, it's pretty save to state that's just a matter of time before your bombs will land there in this Total War of yours. Actually, we Krauts already run operations over there and you do so as well. Wanna guess why?

a reply to: intrptr

These are not the Droids you are looking for

I can't say if Billy Woods or RTJ quote right now, could be both though.

Problem, reaction, solution.

Can't just ask what's the real problem here, try to be a nice drone and please don't get in the way of actionism for the good old "solutions" sake! Will ya?

a reply to: strongfp

Everywhere has to some degree a problem with sex crimes and crime in general...why add more to the bloody pot?

Give all the females 4 inch sharp knifes that'll put a stop to it really quickly.

a reply to: Vasa Croe

I had similar thoughts listening to a debate while driving last week.
If they can't adhere to OUR Laws in OUR Countries then they should be handed down the appropriate punishment from their country (purposeful lowercase) thay they are so happy to be away from.
Just my 2p rant