New York Times : "The Pentagon's Mysterious UFO Program" (plus DeLonge's new website/videos)

a reply to: Willtell

Good to know compartmentalization still works

originally posted by: jedi_hamster

originally posted by: Willtell

originally posted by: jedi_hamster

originally posted by: Willtell
a reply to: vlawde

At a confidential meeting Oct. 4 in a Pentagon City hotel with several present and former intelligence officials and a defense contractor, she met Luis Elizondo, the director of a Pentagon program she had never heard of: the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program.

Reading that very interesting story tells us that one reason for all of this is to get the TDL group off to a good start.

They’ve accomplished that in spades

that's just a side effect. do you really think they would be able to pull it off solely for financial gains?

they've confirmed that the government was - and still is - doing UFO research. they've confirmed recovery of "metal alloys and other materials" from UFOs - and noone from the government is denying it. how can you ignore that?

i'm not saying TDL and his happy bunch don't have their own angle, but there's far more to this than that.

It doesn’t have to necessarily be for financial gain…
Since either way, negative or positive, this operation clearly on one level exists to help TDL’s group, for whatever reason

on a very shallow level.

the media wouldn't publish all that, and TLD's group wouldn't publish all that, without being given "OK" from higher ups. that would simply not fly, period. it wasn't their call to make, they're just puppets. you're giving TLD far too much credit.

Your misinterpreting me, I agree TDL is a puppet

a reply to: Willtell

To me it looks like gov just don't wanna brand this with it's name. They just want to outsource this "alien thing" with as less as possible questions asked. TTSA and TDL are just a tool a public one to get it done in public light and with less preying hands of those that would still love to see it all closed in archives or even destroyed and ridiculed.
I hated to see that big moan for money before even Oct 11th stream started but they gotta keep this running somehow. Obviously DOD is not interested in funding this venture. They have their SAP's, they'd love to keep them secret and I bet there's strong opposition in regards to disclosure. If I'm gonna see TDM releasing a movie I'll keep that in mind. That's it's about the revenue that will be invested in the project. If not we'll gosh darn me for giving them a chance but I don't remember seeing such good looking chance for a while if ever.

George Knapp just came out with more information and an interview with Harry Reid this evening:
www.lasvegasnow.com...

In some news stories about the UFO study, anonymous staffers say Reid stopped supporting the study because it produced no solid information. So, why did the study end? Reid and others involved in the project say one factor is that intelligence officials were petrified that someone would find out about it and it would end up on the front page of a newspaper.And there were other officials who had religious objections.

That last part is of particular interest to me. I don't understand why there would be religious concerns over this.

The I-Team will have more exclusive content Wednesday, including specifics on what was learned during the study, and which UFO incidents were the most unusual.

So looks like more details from George tomorrow

a reply to: vlawde

Maybe because some people still think that humans are superior kids of God.
I showed the f/a 18 video to my friend yesterday and he was like Wtf an ufo? So Jesus was a hoax? There's probably a ton lot more of this kind of people. More than guys that have some knowledge and are prepared. Disclosure will be slowly leaking babysitting. I can't imagine what will happen when they will announce that all religions and gods are product of aliens. Whole Muslim middle East and bit of catholic Europe would implode and commit mass harakiri.

Hello all... First time poster, long time lurker.

They've clearly been gearing up for this for at least a year. It would take months for TTSA to launch their site and get their business structure in line. Everything was coordinated and delayed until all the TTSA ducks were in a row.

While there must have been approvals from the military and intelligence departments, this release looks to be at least in part a way to promote Tom Delonges company. The fact that there are some aviary members in the staff of TTSA, its also clear that there is some longer term plan brewing there. They plan on being around for a while and seem to be claiming there is more info forthcoming.

Questions that come to mind: Will they release info on the alloys or physical evidence left behind? If not, why? We need to hear from Bigelow and anyone else working on this project.

If TTSA is planning on releasing more info/classified files, why the delay? Why not put it out now?

Are there others within the government who want to release this info and if so, who are they?

I am concerned this is all a psy-op and will amount to nothing... but at least there is a little movement happening. The follow up interviews have been decent. The formal naval pilot seemed convinced this was beyond anything that he had seen before. It will be interesting to see former Senator Reid answer questions tomorrow. I hope George Knapp asks the tougher questions as he's been thru some interesting times with this subject matter.

Also... has anyone heard from the likes of Richard Dolan or other well known researchers on this? Greer has made his comments about false flag attacks, Cameron has been pushing his Aviary connections for answers and seems to think this will be a slow roll out disclosure situation, but some folks seem to be absent during the arguably most publicized UFO news since the Phoenix lights. Really curious to hear what Dolan thinks about it all.

a reply to: vlawde

Thank you very much for posting this! I have been very curious about what Mr. Knapp is working on right now.

a reply to: Harpua

Pretty good first post! And you are right that things would have to have been gearing up for a while. You might find this post interesting by Springer the ATS owner from May, 2016 about this.
George Knapp interviews Tom DeLonge about his big project

It is an interesting contrast to see how little we were told back then but was alluded too, that we now have confirmation of. Particularly when it comes to who Tom had been working with then.

a reply to: Harpua

Its essentially a money making venture. While their entertainment section will make money. But the science and aerospace division is anyones guess. With the tech involved its very difficult to put out a commercial product, trust me

a reply to: Hyperboles

With the tech theyre looking to achieve theyll need a few billion good luck ttsa

a reply to: BASSPLYR

Well maybe they have to start over somewhere since Astr0 took it all with him.

I cant help thinking of the black budget ufo area 51 types really laughing at this `disclosure`.

a reply to: vlawde

George is on top of this (and has known about it for months) he's the one to watch... George is a personal friend of mine and this site and I assure you he knows what's what and will never spin anything, ever.

For those who don't understand how these things work...

Bigelow did not enrich himself by taking on Reid's project and the paltry $22MM in funding the Pentagon allocated to it. Bigelow spent 3 times that amount in infrastructure and salaries alone. Throw transportation on his private jets for the research teams and you have Bigelow spending way more than the $22MM he received. Don't waste time looking to see if a billionaire made a dime, they don't care about dimes, they will however spend millions of their own money on things they do care about. That's how a basically unfunded Pentagon program (again, $22MM is nothing) managed to generate reams of paper and possibly some site samples.

This rock is just beginning to roll over and show what's under it, let's focus on the data rather than the personalities and our assumptions about them.

a reply to: Springer

I had asked George on Twitter yesterday if there was a connection between the current UFO activity, SKinwalker Ranch and Bob Bigelow. He said there was, and he'd be doing stories about all of that this week.

I'm very excited about the UFO deal, and really want to learn more about the Ranch and it's connection to all this

Wasn't George the guy who first introduced the world to Bob Lazar? Wasn't the story that the guy they wanted to interview cancelled, so George got Bob Lazar on his Vegas TV news show?

a reply to: vlawde

That last part is of particular interest to me. I don't understand why there would be religious concerns over this.

As crazy as it sounds, some US 'officials' are reportedly wedded to the notion of UFOs as demons and Armageddon as a real thing. Even Hynek eventually came to think of UFO phenomena in terms that came close to 'demons.' He called them metaterrestrials.

It's more evidence of the reflective nature of these things and our tendency to project. People who believe in demons see demons. Aircraft engineers see airframe technology. Sociologists see cultural artifacts. The people who think everyone else is stupid see them as evidence that everyone else is stupid.

a reply to: vlawde

I can say this, no one person knows more about the ranch, TDL/TTS, Bigelow, and Lazar than George... Keep an eye on what George has coming out.

Well this all is good news about he money being used responsibly. Now I have to wonder if/when the information will make it down to the civilian populous (officially that is, and not through some "un-named source")

Here's to hoping that this is the second life to the field of UFO'ology.

ATS, George Knapp, TDL, TTS, thank you for bringing such great gifts this Christmas season!

a reply to: Springer

one thing makes me wonder - the tweet from Reid that George retweeted.

If anyone says they have the answers, they’re fooling themselves.

We don’t know the answers but we have plenty of evidence to support asking the questions. This is about science and national security. If America doesn’t take the lead in answering these questions, others will.

the way i see it, either Reid - and Bigelow, and all the rest of the team - are really sitting on, as explosive as they get, but just small pieces of the truth - or the first part is smoke and mirrors, and the second part suggests that the US government should finally disclose what it really knows, or someone else will.

what's your take?