The simple case for a periodic reset of reality

originally posted by: 3daysgone
So the Universe could expand forever.

The universe doesn't require energy to expand, it is an intrinsic expansion, the scale itself changes.

a reply to: chr0naut

and In order to have consciousness you have to have (add random life necessity here). also, doesn't the phrase 'have to have' sound tautological?

If consciousness is a force in the universe then maybe you dont need to have life. Maybe the universe observes itself and we are fragments of that..

who knows..

a reply to: chr0naut

and In order to have consciousness you have to have (add random life necessity here).

No need for random life necessity. The answer is life.

also, doesn't the phrase 'have to have' sound tautological?

I am not sure. My English skills lack quiet often.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

The universe doesn't require energy to expand, it is an intrinsic expansion, the scale itself changes.

A flag blows in the wind. One man says its the wind that moves. The next man says its the flag that moves. A third man comes along and says no its the mind that moves.

Maybe The universe requires no energy to move. Just the energy of the mind.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

The universe doesn't require energy to expand, it is an intrinsic expansion, the scale itself changes.

Does that mean there is no need of a big bang?

originally posted by: purplemer
Maybe The universe requires no energy to move. Just the energy of the mind.

Or it's just following Cthulhu's orders.

originally posted by: purplemer
a reply to: chr0naut

and In order to have consciousness you have to have (add random life necessity here). also, doesn't the phrase 'have to have' sound tautological?

If consciousness is a force in the universe then maybe you dont need to have life. Maybe the universe observes itself and we are fragments of that..

who knows..

Someone explained my question about why are we here this way. He was religious. He said we are here so that God can experience this reality through us.

Your post brought that memory to me.

originally posted by: 3daysgone
Does that mean there is no need of a big bang?

The expanding universe is linked to the Big Bang.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Hail the great Cthulhu !

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: purplemer
Thats easy... It sounds like a dog having Buddha nature..

:p

Wrong.

It's like a lotus blossom failing into a super massive black hole. It will remain beautiful forever at the event horizon while it is simultaneously feeding the well of creation.

Umm,

The acceleration due to gravity will totally incinerate the lotus blossom down to a gaseous plasma as it falls.

The gaseous atoms will also be spaghettified into individual subatomic components by gravitational tidal forces when those forces exceed the binding forces of the particles.

This will happen before it reaches the Schwarzschild radius (the event horizon for a non-rotating solution to the equations).

Here is an interesting paper for instance.

Reversing the thermodynamic arrow of time using quantum correlations

The second law permits the prediction of the direction of natural processes, thus defining a thermodynamic arrow of time. However, standard thermodynamics presupposes the absence of initial correlations between interacting systems. We here experimentally demonstrate the reversal of the arrow of time for two initially quantum correlated spins-1/2, prepared in local thermal states at different temperatures, employing a Nuclear Magnetic Resonance setup. We observe a spontaneous heat flow from the cold to the hot system. This process is enabled by a trade off between correlations and entropy that we quantify with information-theoretical quantities.

originally posted by: purplemer
a reply to: chr0naut

and In order to have consciousness you have to have (add random life necessity here). also, doesn't the phrase 'have to have' sound tautological?

If consciousness is a force in the universe then maybe you dont need to have life. Maybe the universe observes itself and we are fragments of that..

who knows..

She would, she's a Time Lord.

originally posted by: eXia7

originally posted by: CircleofFloss
a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

I guess you don't know where the energy comes from that the electric company produces to produce the means you use for everyday life, including typing on this forum all the stuff that the average monkey would, trying to produce a work of shakespeare or the like. I mean, given enough time and all, anything's possible.

Electrical energy is created in numerous ways. From steam, water, solar etc. It's not like it just comes from the ether. I think you are basing some of your theories off of Nikola Tesla right?

Steam, water and nuclear all produce electric by moving a magnet from South Pole to North Pole over ferric material. So essentially if you have some way of forcing the magnet past a piece of iron then you have unlimited energy. The only real issue you will have is whether the magnet will be heated up and whether the magnetic materials are strong enough to withstand the inherent vibrational/mechanical bonds.
Magnets are prone to cracking and especially in neodymium magnets because they are usually made from a powder and compressed (hence the reason why they are almost always coated with chrome, steel alloy or other type of covering. On

originally posted by: chr0naut
The acceleration due to gravity will totally incinerate the lotus blossom down to a gaseous plasma as it falls.

The gaseous atoms will also be spaghettified into individual subatomic components by gravitational tidal forces when those forces exceed the binding forces of the particles.

This will happen before it reaches the Schwarzschild radius (the event horizon for a non-rotating solution to the equations).

But from our Zen perspective it will appear to never actually fall in and everything will be unicorns with rainbow farts.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: 3daysgone
Does that mean there is no need of a big bang?

The expanding universe is linked to the Big Bang.

To be perfectly clear, we can’t definitively answer this question—but we can speculate wildly,

gizmodo.com...

It seems as if the universe is shaped like a torus, or a bunch of tori. That could explain how it seems as if it is ever expanding.

originally posted by: 3daysgone
a reply to: chr0naut

I am not sure. My English skills lack quiet often.

“Go placidly amid the noise and the haste, and remember what peace there may be in silence. As far as possible without surrender, be on good terms with all persons. Speak your truth quietly and clearly, and listen to others, even the dull and ignorant; they too have their story. Be yourself. Especially do not feign affection. Neither be cynical about love – for in the face of all aridity and disenchantment it is perennial as the grass. Take kindly the counsel of the years, gracefully surrendering the things of youth. Nurture strength of spirit to shield you from misfortune. But do not distress yourself with imaginings. Many fears are born of fatigue and loneliness. Beyond a wholesome discipline, be gentle with yourself. You are a child of the universe no less than the trees and the stars; you have a right to be here. And whether or not it is clear to you, no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should. Therefore be at peace with God, whatever you conceive Him to be, and whatever your labours and aspirations, in the noisy confusion of life keep peace with your soul. With all its sham, drudgery and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world.”

― Max Ehrmann, Desiderata: A Poem for a Way of Life

... and they said that this topic thread was a trivial waste of time. It's become quite deep.

originally posted by: purplemer
a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

The universe doesn't require energy to expand, it is an intrinsic expansion, the scale itself changes.

A flag blows in the wind. One man says its the wind that moves. The next man says its the flag that moves. A third man comes along and says no its the mind that moves.

Maybe The universe requires no energy to move. Just the energy of the mind.

So, the third guy's mind is blowing?

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

it definitely needs energy to expand.

but does it need "outside" energy?

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: 3daysgone
a reply to: chr0naut

and In order to have consciousness you have to have (add random life necessity here).

No need for random life necessity. The answer is life.

also, doesn't the phrase 'have to have' sound tautological?

I am not sure. My English skills lack quiet often.

“Go placidly amid the noise and the haste, and remember what peace there may be in silence. As far as possible without surrender, be on good terms with all persons. Speak your truth quietly and clearly, and listen to others, even the dull and ignorant; they too have their story. Be yourself. Especially do not feign affection. Neither be cynical about love – for in the face of all aridity and disenchantment it is perennial as the grass. Take kindly the counsel of the years, gracefully surrendering the things of youth. Nurture strength of spirit to shield you from misfortune. But do not distress yourself with imaginings. Many fears are born of fatigue and loneliness. Beyond a wholesome discipline, be gentle with yourself. You are a child of the universe no less than the trees and the stars; you have a right to be here. And whether or not it is clear to you, no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should. Therefore be at peace with God, whatever you conceive Him to be, and whatever your labours and aspirations, in the noisy confusion of life keep peace with your soul. With all its sham, drudgery and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world.”

― Max Ehrmann, Desiderata: A Poem for a Way of Life

... and they said that this topic thread was a trivial waste of time. It's become quite deep.

That was an excellent read. Thank you. It is in the moments of silence, without distractions, that I feel at peace.

originally posted by: dashen
a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

it definitely needs energy to expand.

but does it need "outside" energy?

Anti-Energy? Hmmm.