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originally posted by: Xcathdra
originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: Xcathdra
All memos he created were done so while he was the Director of the FBI and NOT after he left.
Does that include the memo he gave to his friend?
Remember, the friend had to hand over that specific memo to the FBi that was separate from the rest.
When was that memo created?
My understanding is the memo he turned over to his friend was one of the 7 memos he created while FBI director. If I am not mistaken comey had to return all 7 memos to Mueller, including the one provided to his friend for media release.
originally posted by: introvert
originally posted by: Xcathdra
originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: Xcathdra
All memos he created were done so while he was the Director of the FBI and NOT after he left.
Does that include the memo he gave to his friend?
Remember, the friend had to hand over that specific memo to the FBi that was separate from the rest.
When was that memo created?
My understanding is the memo he turned over to his friend was one of the 7 memos he created while FBI director. If I am not mistaken comey had to return all 7 memos to Mueller, including the one provided to his friend for media release.
Well, was it or was it not part of the memos referenced and when was it created?
Yes - it was one of 7 memos Comey created as FBI director that he illegally took with him under the mistaken impression he owned them and not the FBI, then violated the law again by releasing that memo to the media thru his friend
who had to return the memo to Comey, who then turned them all over to Mueller.
A friend of James Comey says he has turned over copies of the former FBI director's explosive memos — describing murky encounters with President Donald Trump — to the FBI, sidestepping a request by congressional committees to deliver the materials to Capitol Hill.
Daniel Richman, a Columbia University law professor who Comey identified last week as the go-between who helped disseminate the content of his memos to the press last month, said he is turning the materials over to the FBI, which is conducting a wide-ranging investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential elections.
That probe, overseen by special counsel Robert Mueller, includes an investigation into whether any associates of the president colluded with Russians last year — and whether Trump might have obstructed justice when he fired Comey amid the FBI investigation. Comey's memos may be crucial evidence in that aspect of the probe.
Richman's decision comes as several congressional committees have asked for copies of Comey's memos. Comey himself said he turned over his copies to Mueller, but he said he'd be comfortable if Mueller or Richman shared them with Congress.
So far, the memos have been requested by the House and Senate intelligence committees, the Senate Judiciary Committee and the House Oversight Committee
Yes - Trump waived it
While Trump tweeted about some of the issues there is no legal precedent established to take that as officially waiving EP and that has been noted by several people in the legal realm.
originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: introvert
Comey associate says he turned over memos to the FBI
A friend of James Comey says he has turned over copies of the former FBI director's explosive memos — describing murky encounters with President Donald Trump — to the FBI, sidestepping a request by congressional committees to deliver the materials to Capitol Hill.
Daniel Richman, a Columbia University law professor who Comey identified last week as the go-between who helped disseminate the content of his memos to the press last month, said he is turning the materials over to the FBI, which is conducting a wide-ranging investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential elections.
That probe, overseen by special counsel Robert Mueller, includes an investigation into whether any associates of the president colluded with Russians last year — and whether Trump might have obstructed justice when he fired Comey amid the FBI investigation. Comey's memos may be crucial evidence in that aspect of the probe.
Richman's decision comes as several congressional committees have asked for copies of Comey's memos. Comey himself said he turned over his copies to Mueller, but he said he'd be comfortable if Mueller or Richman shared them with Congress.
So far, the memos have been requested by the House and Senate intelligence committees, the Senate Judiciary Committee and the House Oversight Committee
Looks like he had more than just one memo...
originally posted by: Shamrock6
Nope, he chose not to invoke it. Again, it has to be invoked.
originally posted by: Shamrock6
And it's also been noted by several people in the legal realm that Trump likely lost any claim to EP thanks to his own comments about the conversations, and had he attempted to invoke EP probably would've lost in court over it. It's also been noted by many in the legal realm that because Comey was no longer Director at the time of his testimony, EP likely wouldn't have worked to stop him from testifying.
EP could have likely been applied to the memos if Comey had said he was going to release them while still Director. The FBI policy on internal documents should have been applied to the documents when he left the directorship.
Neither of those could have been used to stop him from testifying.
originally posted by: introvert
originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: introvert
Comey associate says he turned over memos to the FBI
A friend of James Comey says he has turned over copies of the former FBI director's explosive memos — describing murky encounters with President Donald Trump — to the FBI, sidestepping a request by congressional committees to deliver the materials to Capitol Hill.
Daniel Richman, a Columbia University law professor who Comey identified last week as the go-between who helped disseminate the content of his memos to the press last month, said he is turning the materials over to the FBI, which is conducting a wide-ranging investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential elections.
That probe, overseen by special counsel Robert Mueller, includes an investigation into whether any associates of the president colluded with Russians last year — and whether Trump might have obstructed justice when he fired Comey amid the FBI investigation. Comey's memos may be crucial evidence in that aspect of the probe.
Richman's decision comes as several congressional committees have asked for copies of Comey's memos. Comey himself said he turned over his copies to Mueller, but he said he'd be comfortable if Mueller or Richman shared them with Congress.
So far, the memos have been requested by the House and Senate intelligence committees, the Senate Judiciary Committee and the House Oversight Committee
Looks like he had more than just one memo...
What do we know for sure?
"Looks like" and lack of sources means nothing when people are saying laws were clearly broken.
ok, since you apparently dont bother to read the source material.
The friend of Comey had more than just one memo provided to him by former FBI director Comey. He then turned those multiple memos over to Mueller.
A friend of James Comey says he has turned over copies of the former FBI director's explosive memos — describing murky encounters with President Donald Trump — to the FBI, sidestepping a request by congressional committees to deliver the materials to Capitol Hill.
Daniel Richman, a Columbia University law professor who Comey identified last week as the go-between who helped disseminate the content of his memos to the press last month, said he is turning the materials ov
That probe, overseen by special counsel Robert Mueller, includes an investigation into whether any associates of the president colluded with Russians last year — and whether Trump might have obstructed justice when he fired Comey amid the FBI investigation. Comey's memos may be crucial evidence in that aspect of the probe.
Richman's decision comes as several congressional committees have asked for copies of Comey's memos. Comey himself said he turned over his copies to Mueller, but he said he'd be comfortable if Mueller or Richman shared them with Congress.
So far, the memos have been requested by the House and Senate intelligence committees, the Senate Judiciary Committee and the House Oversight Committee
Actually Trump could have invoked EP to stop Comey. While we can cite opinions of legal scholars on both sides in the end it would be the courts that would have to decide and to establish a precedent for it since twitter is a new medium in this realm.
had he attempted to invoke EP probably would've lost in court over it.
Also to clear another point up - Executive privilege can apply to private citizens who formally worked for the executive branch however the courts would be dragged into it to set a precedence.
originally posted by: Shamrock6
...and yes, Trump could have invoked EP. Which is why I said "had he attempted to invoke EP probably would've lost in court over it."
originally posted by: Shamrock6
I know. Though, in this instance, it likely would've failed. Which is the point I've made repeatedly.
I'm glad we were finally able to come to some sort of general agreement about it. I assume we agree on at least some points since you've repeated back to me the same things I've just said. That being said, this has turned into the definition of getting lost in the weeds so I'm done with it.
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