Possible New Source on Discovery of Frozen City under Antarctic Ice

a reply to: oldcarpy

I'll have a look online, I remember reading about it on some site that they pulled the geographic. So I went looking for it and found it on the Cia site. The article was just about Byrd and his mission, I think maybe it had relevant info on military movement during that time that all I can think why they pulled it. One of the other documents is from the International geographic survey by different countries it's really cool.

This is the geohraphic article Byrd wrote that the CIA pulled
All out assault on antarctica

These three are all scientific community expeditions joint expeditions and individual , scientific survey of the continent and surrouding coastlines

antarctica - geography and coasts

soviet antarctic activity

soviet cooperation


this one is interesting is about an Arthur C Lundhal and his role in various operations including high jump

arthur
apparently he worked on curious problems with V2 rockets, and was a specialist in photgrammetry (rather interesting )


there are more to come ust looking for the highjump ones with byrd at the time where it shows from correspondence with the CIA he was to be in the north pole then south pole on two different expeditions within a month of each other

a reply to: sapien82

After reading through the first article you posted, it seems odd that the CIA pulled it. Any insight as to why?

a reply to: purplemer

NO it doesn't show any part of Antarctica. Not one island chain. Nada. Nothing. Zip. If you actually looked at the Piri reis map and the coastline of South America you'd realise that while he was constructing his mappa mundi from the 20 or so maps he used as a reference, Piri Reis was running out of room on his gazelle hide and had to turn it 90 degrees to carry on the coastline as far as Patagonia at best. Yes, it IS that mundane. He was running out of room, and that map is just a portion of a lost larger creation gifted to the Sultan at the time. You'll also see the islands of Cipanga located in the caribbean which on medieval maps which is now recognised as Japan. The quote from Ohlmeyer is always taken out of context as he and his colleagues also said that it looked like Antarctica according to the Mercator projection which elongates the coastline of the Antarctic continent.

And you are mistaken it WAS Hapgood who in his book Map Of The Ancient Sea Kings first posited this ridiculous theory with his forced and unnecessarily complex mathematical equations. Hancock and Von Daniken merely repeated it and David Wilcock has taken it and run for the posts. Antarctica has not been ice free to that extent for multiple thousands of years. And if you look at the 18th Century Buache map, you'll notice that Antarctica - which may have been charted by explorers at that point who thought it was part of Australia - is upside down, the peninsula pointing towards Tasmania and Victoria on the south Australia coast rather than stretching up in the approximate area of Tierra Del Fuego and Magellan Strait. It's not hard to work it out y'know.

a reply to: sapien82


Many thanks for that. Fascinating stuff, well done.

a reply to: AgarthaSeed

I have no idea why the CIA would pull an issue of the geographic, I can only think that at the time during the cold war
it maybe was giving info to the Soviets on large movements of vessels ?

I think thats why there was so much fuss about it at the time , you see some of the other articles are from the cold war era and involve soviet expeditions to the south pole.

conspiracy or not its all really interesting international politics
plus Byrd was a super cool dude , well at least he was to me

a reply to: purplemer

Are you really taken in by this purplemer

So they managed to dig through approx 2800 mtrs of ice and create a big enough hole to get out the information about they city claimed on the video just fkn .

Please get the video linked far and wide so I am not a target more like get this linked far and wide more chance of suckers seeing it and me genrating some cash from it.

it's a bad as the flat Earthers claiming you cant visit Antartica at all.

It's easier to create conspiracies for an isolated location and create BS about it because you or me are unlikely to visit there.

The only claim of no fly zones are on conspiracy sites.

It's a crazy idea to build this South Pole Telescope

If your claimed radiation source is near.

a reply to: purplemer

Why did they send there best troops into the ground.

Who were the best troops in the Nazi army?

is there anything showing this regiment/platoon/unit were sent to Antarctica?

You cant simply say a story is bs when you dont have any evidence to support it

Ok so there are no fly zones with radius of 150km and lowest altitude allowed being 2000m.

Is this site under one of these zones?

a reply to: purplemer

Why have the treaty in the first place.

um so nations don't go to war over uninhabited land.

Why this level of cooperation between nations. It is in itself very unusual.

How so?

Nations have been in cooperation ever since nations were established.

Yes just fairytales. Along with Admiral Bryd. Just making stuff up.!

much of what is said to have said by Admiral Byrd can be taken as fairy tales, as it points to his diary being a hoax.

Then on top of that everything that has been misrepresented since about the subject like the Argentinian article.

originally posted by: wmd_2008
a reply to: purplemer

Are you really taken in by this purplemer

So they managed to dig through approx 2800 mtrs of ice and create a big enough hole to get out the information about they city claimed on the video

just fkn

.

Please get the video linked far and wide so I am not a target

more like get this linked far and wide more chance of suckers seeing it and me genrating some cash from it.

it's a bad as the flat Earthers claiming you cant visit Antartica at all.

It's easier to create conspiracies for an isolated location and create BS about it because you or me are unlikely to visit there.

The only claim of no fly zones are on conspiracy sites.

It's a crazy idea to build this South Pole Telescope

If your claimed radiation source is near.

I agree that any idiot could try to fake an Antarctic discovery as a money-making scheme.

And I agree that the fools who say you can't visit Antarctica haven't done a shred of research.

What I disagree with is the idea that there's nothing significant being hidden from the public there.

Why? Put it this way, Antarctica is much larger than many assume. It's bigger than Europe. It's about twice the size of Australia. It's roughly 5.4 million square miles.

This is what the continental U.S. landmass looks like superimposed over Antarctica:


Now add in the fact that 98% of this land mass is covered by thick ice throughout most of the year.

It's no mystery what The Antarctic Treaty says. However, look at what the U.S. Constitution says versus what actions the U.S. government actually take. The treaty forbids military activity on the continent yet allows military personnel to build bases and operate there for "scientific purposes."

Do you trust our governments? Does the U.S. military not have a gargantuan military budget that eclipses the next 6 nations combined? There's no tangible evidence of a frozen city under the ice that's available at the moment, but is it entirely possible? Absolutely.

My point is, given the track record of the U.S. government and other world governments that they're allied with, a gigantic frozen landmass in which things can easily be hidden underground sounds like the perfect opportunity for something corrupt to ensue.

a reply to: AgarthaSeed

The treaty forbids military activity on the continent yet allows military personnel to build bases and operate there for "scientific purposes."

Reason military personnel used to build and maintain bases in Antarctica is because the military have aircraft and ships
(ice breakers) designed to operate in hostile conditions with personnel trained to operate them.......

originally posted by: firerescue
a reply to: AgarthaSeed

The treaty forbids military activity on the continent yet allows military personnel to build bases and operate there for "scientific purposes."

Reason military personnel used to build and maintain bases in Antarctica is because the military have aircraft and ships
(ice breakers) designed to operate in hostile conditions with personnel trained to operate them.......

Yes I'm aware of what the official reason is for a military presence, but that's not the point I was making.

Example: the "official" reason the U.S. invaded Iraq in 2003 was because they had weapons of mass destruction.

a reply to: AgarthaSeed

Hi well aware how big Antarctica is had a few discussions with Flat headers sorry Eathers about it, we are talking about the claims made in the video which are laughable to say the least. Antarctica was according to studies ice free 35 million years ago the ice sheet developed over a relatively short time of 100,000 years so any city would be 35+ million years old

As for countries working together that happens a lot within science lets see two of the most famous projects right now the ISS & LHC.

Hey, I'd like to go to that city and hang out. Maybe do some shopping and try out some new foods and have some far-out conversations.

a reply to: AgarthaSeed

Wow thats a great image. Thanks for sharing.

Didn't realize how big it was.

a reply to: sapien82

There should be a warning or note on the CIA link before it sends you to the CIA website.

a reply to: nOraKat

There probably should be some notification that your link is taking you somewhere for accessibility purposes

but why would they need to warn you that you are going to the CIA site, its not like a warning your going to view porn, or criminal stuff, or something like that

a reply to: nOraKat

That youtube video will be my night time listing. Listened to the first five minutes sounds interesting enough.

a reply to: sapien82

I don't want to be put on some sort of surveillance list.

originally posted by: Yvhmer
a reply to: beetee

Interesting thoughts.

Hitler on trial in Nuremberg. I dunno. One could pose the same question regarding Osama B.L, Khaddafi. There is always a mouthful of bringing a perceived villain to justice. However, a villain dead means justice has been served. I only recount this because the political dimension to these "trials" is wrought with uncertainty. And while we now can discuss the political expediency of Germany 's state action leading up to the war and during the first say 2 years of the war, in a manner of uncertainty on both sides, whether Germany had cause or not, fact is, you do not wish certain things legally fixed. It would have put the Allies in a tight spot. Not to mention the effect it might have on the German population to have their miracle worker put on display. A gruesome anonymous death would do nicely.

And there are some indications that Hitler had one maybe two British handlers................If so, it would make a number of his more encumbered decisions more logical.

The military dimension as towards an invasion of Antarctica is also an interesting one. Equipment in them days was not quite winter hard to put it mildly. The best analogy is perhaps the Soviet - Finland winter war and the effects of winter on both the Soviet and German armies in say the 1941 winter and consequent 1942 winter in Stalingrad. D-day needed 2-3 years of preparation to commence. And the Byrd story shows what happens to a basically military operation unprepared for what they encountered. And as always, military enterprises are always considered through the lens of logistics, investment, gain and loss.

(You may also read up on Desert Storm and the way the preparations for that war had been done.)

The reason why the Western front moved east so quickly has nothing to do with the military might of the Western Allies, but everything to do with the internal economic stagnation within Germany. Everything hinged on the supply of East European diesel, which was threatened by the 1942 battle of Kursk, the incessant areal bombings and the subsequent eastern advance causing important strategic choices. 1. Panzer waffe was under direct control of Hitler, 2. Fuel shortages. It is very easy to overstate military prowess when the antagonist is virtually in disarray.

It may be interesting for you to read Von Manteuffel's Lost Victories. .... That being said, again, logistics and weather are to this day important considerations for any attack.

What you have effectively said is: because in my estimation "x" should have happened but it did not, the story is improbable.

An option might be to simply find out which units were there in the Antarctic theater and who were in those units and trace witnesses. If that information is still sealed/ privileged, it may be an indicator of something to be afoot.

I'm adding these links to read later.

Panzer Baron: The Military Exploits of General Hasso Von Manteuffel by Donald Grey Brownlow (1976-07-01) Hardcover –

www.amazon.com...

First Nuclear sub to travel under the north pole.

en.wikipedia.org...(SSN-571)

The power plant for SSN-571 was either developed out in the remote desert in the late 1940's or arrived by CEOTTK UFO.

a reply to: purplemer

If extra terrestrials wanted to be on Earth and didn't want to advertise it to human kind, They'd have to go someplace where we hadn't been and never go to. Antartica. Now its the dark side of the moon or maybe Mars. Now they have contact with our leaders( so they deal with the worst examples of humans) so they can probably stay underground or in protected off limits areas.