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Security Breach and Spilled Secrets Have Shaken the N.S.A. to Its Core

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posted on Nov, 12 2017 @ 11:40 PM
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its going off the rails folks




Fifteen months into a wide-ranging investigation by the agency’s counterintelligence arm, known as Q Group, and the F.B.I., officials still do not know whether the N.S.A. is the victim of a brilliantly executed hack, with Russia as the most likely perpetrator, an insider’s leak, or both. Three employees have been arrested since 2015 for taking classified files, but there is fear that one or more leakers may still be in place. And there is broad agreement that the damage from the Shadow Brokers already far exceeds the harm to American intelligence done by Edward J. Snowden, the former N.S.A. contractor who fled with four laptops of classified material in 2013.


The tone of this article is rather ominous and almost mocking.
This group known as "the SHADOW BROKERS" (if they truly exist) apparently has access to top level security data, through unknown means and sources.
this piece all but calls the N S A an inept department.


American officials had to explain to close allies — and to business leaders in the United States — how cyberweapons developed at Fort Meade in Maryland came to be used against them. Experts believe more attacks using the stolen N.S.A. tools are all but certain. Inside the agency’s Maryland headquarters and its campuses around the country, N.S.A. employees have been subjected to polygraphs and suspended from their jobs in a hunt for turncoats allied with the Shadow Brokers. Much of the agency’s arsenal is still being replaced, curtailing operations. Morale has plunged, and experienced specialists are leaving the agency for better-paying jobs — including with firms defending computer networks from intrusions that use the N.S.A.’s leaked tools. “It’s a disaster on multiple levels,” Mr. Williams said. “It’s embarrassing that the people responsible for this have not been brought to justice.”


It goes on to say that these leaks of Agency digital spying tools led to the hacking of FEDEX, Hospitals, oil companies and OREO cookies for cryin out loud.
allegations of losses run into the hundreds of millions.
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posted on Nov, 12 2017 @ 11:47 PM
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Russia, Russia, Russia.
Fake news.


right?


That's a hell of an article.

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posted on Nov, 12 2017 @ 11:52 PM
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a reply to: Phage

its all rather alarming.

but im not afraid of the ruskies as much as the owl worshiping spooks



posted on Nov, 12 2017 @ 11:55 PM
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a reply to: dashen

Sounds like the spooks are on the run to catch up. You reckon that's a good thing?
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posted on Nov, 12 2017 @ 11:56 PM
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a reply to: Phage

i dont know if its good or bad, but it sure is exciting.



posted on Nov, 12 2017 @ 11:56 PM
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a reply to: dashen

Pretty sure it's bad.



posted on Nov, 12 2017 @ 11:58 PM
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a reply to: Phage

definitely bad for oreo cookies so far.

but theres at least 17 US intelligence agencies. and at least a few of them are spying on each other.

who do you think this is bad for exactly?



posted on Nov, 12 2017 @ 11:59 PM
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a reply to: dashen

With the the level of infiltration, everyone. No reason to think the spooks are the only target.



posted on Nov, 13 2017 @ 12:00 AM
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Looks like the general populace is finding out what some have known for a long time. There is absolutely no privacy on the internet. If you want secure, it needs to be completely offline.

Seems like the alphabet agencies got caught with their pants down, and don't like being treated the same way as they treat the common citizen.

Hope they can get it under control, but I doubt it.



posted on Nov, 13 2017 @ 12:01 AM
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a reply to: Phage

today, with viruses that can jump air gaps, and who knows what else the spooks have in their bag of tricks i wonder if we arent the the cusp of a secret free society anyway



posted on Nov, 13 2017 @ 12:04 AM
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This story is unreal. Just finished reading it.

How the hell did it get THIS detailed? This is LADEN with seemingly exquisite knowledge of the subject.

Who really wrote this?



posted on Nov, 13 2017 @ 12:05 AM
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originally posted by: Phage
Russia, Russia, Russia.
Fake news.


right?


That's a hell of an article.





So the intelligence agencies are worried that their very own brand of hacking has been hacked and now being used by other countries against them. It's clearly a bad thing but what did they expect to happen ?



posted on Nov, 13 2017 @ 12:05 AM
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a reply to: Tempter



Who really wrote this?

Russians.

Probly.

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posted on Nov, 13 2017 @ 12:05 AM
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originally posted by: Tempter
This story is unreal. Just finished reading it.

How the hell did it get THIS detailed? This is LADEN with seemingly exquisite knowledge of the subject.

Who really wrote this?



11/12/17(Sun)16:24:44 No.149151705





posted on Nov, 13 2017 @ 12:06 AM
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a reply to: dashen Well I guess it's a good thing I use multiple hard drives and have a hard switch that can connect my backup main drive loaded with Linux and a switch to disconnect my main windows drive for this exact reason. If anyone is worried about this type of thing that is the way to deal with it. Linux will allow you to recover date that you need and transfer to another drive then you can wipe the affected drive and load up your system if need be.




posted on Nov, 13 2017 @ 12:06 AM
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a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

I think they expected that their toolkit would be secure. Too bad they were too busy building that toolkit to make sure about that security.

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posted on Nov, 13 2017 @ 12:07 AM
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The phrase "You will reap what you sow" might be appropriate to mention to the NSA.



posted on Nov, 13 2017 @ 12:07 AM
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a reply to: Allaroundyou

I don't think us, as users have much to worry about. At least I don't.

It's the financial system and infrastructure where the real threat lies. Oh, political system too.


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posted on Nov, 13 2017 @ 12:12 AM
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This is interesting.


Compounding the pain for the N.S.A. is the attackers’ regular online public taunts, written in ersatz broken English. Their posts are a peculiar mash-up of immaturity and sophistication, laced with profane jokes but also savvy cultural and political references. They suggest that their author — if not an American — knows the United States well.


I read that Russia was training their trolls in American culture, even having them watch House of Cards. Maybe they have multiple teams of cyber spies and the like who are trained in American culture.

So, is this software out there on the web for anyone to use now?
edit on 13amMon, 13 Nov 2017 00:14:04 -0600kbamkAmerica/Chicago by darkbake because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 13 2017 @ 12:13 AM
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a reply to: Phage I got hit with a ransomware one time. Damn old Arma1 download. Lost everything on my main drive. So I came up with that. And I like what you did there
where is our Tron?




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