Shall we start a new community out in the forest?

Could we start a new society/community, out in the forest?
How far could a little self-sufficient society get, with no governance?
Would we self-destruct?

Humanity started-out by having success in daily survival situations.
Why couldn't we do it again? Are we too soft?

What about a bunch of folks just go-off, and start anew? With the intention of never coming back.
What skills would be needed?

Well. I can build houses, electrical systems, plumbing systems, winter green houses and pleasure dungeons.
So id be fun in the woods

a reply to: Nothin


Ummm...can I be the executioner...?

You gotta have an executioner...


You know...for those executive decisions...








YouSir

originally posted by: dashen
Well. I can build houses, electrical systems, plumbing systems, winter green houses and pleasure dungeons.
So id be fun in the woods

A very resourceful person indeed!
How would we build new tools, if we never go back into town for supplies?
Could we get-by on simple primitive tools?

originally posted by: YouSir
a reply to: Nothin
Ummm...can I be the executioner...?
You gotta have an executioner...
You know...for those executive decisions...

YouSir

You're too nice, and too smart to be an executioner.
What if we had no rules, and just let natural justice take care of itself?

It is not like it has never been done before, countless times and has always ended differently than the dear leaders envisioned.

a reply to: Nothin



Ummm...natural justice...?

Ohhh...

You mean...homicide...the naturally selective solution to any intransigent conflict resolution...cool...






YouSir

I've always liked the concept, but not so much the primitive approach. Don't have much interest in that...

Though, I suspect that technology facet alone tends to move it from "isolated community" to "breakaway civilization."

I see no reason not to employ cutting edge, efficient, ultra-advanced tech alongside self-sufficiency while embracing nature.

originally posted by: Nothin
What if we had no rules, and just let natural justice take care of itself?

Have you ever read the novel "Lord of the Flies"? (William Golding)

The worst thing about living in the forest...forest fires. Horrible, if you don’t have a way out.

There is a whole new set of rules when you live in a mountainous area.

originally posted by: DJMSN
It is not like it has never been done before, countless times and has always ended differently than the dear leaders envisioned.

But we still have hope, and the dream lives-on.
We always think we can do better than others, but can we?

a reply to: YouSir

Whatever happens: happens.
If one dude turns into a pain, hopefully someone else puts him in his place.

originally posted by: Serdgiam
I've always liked the concept, but not so much the primitive approach. Don't have much interest in that...

Though, I suspect that technology facet alone tends to move it from "isolated community" to "breakaway civilization."

I see no reason not to employ cutting edge, efficient, ultra-advanced tech alongside self-sufficiency while embracing nature.

The technology is so tempting.
As long as normal society is running, then the technology will be repairable.
What if we don't have that option?

originally posted by: DISRAELI

originally posted by: Nothin
What if we had no rules, and just let natural justice take care of itself?

Have you ever read the novel "Lord of the Flies"? (William Golding)

Many many years ago.
The drama made for a good novel, but perhaps not relative to how a group of adults would act.
Can we not do better?

a reply to: Nothin

Make our own

With things like raspberryPi, 3d printers, etc. we wouldn't need to have anything to do with "normies" at all.

With the right selection of people, our tech could even surpass the normies in relatively short order.

originally posted by: Watcher777
The worst thing about living in the forest...forest fires. Horrible, if you don’t have a way out.

There is a whole new set of rules when you live in a mountainous area.

The risk of losing everything to a forest-fire seems relatively low.
But we should be prepared, and able to start-over again.
The less you have, the less you have to lose.

originally posted by: Serdgiam
a reply to: Nothin

Make our own

With things like raspberryPi, 3d printers, etc. we wouldn't need to have anything to do with "normies" at all.

With the right selection of people, our tech could even surpass the normies in relatively short order.

Sure! We could make many tools and useful items.
Does anyone really need an $80000 truck, and to live in a $500000 home?

Permies

a reply to: Watcher777

Forest fires are actually relatively easy to mitigate with some foresight and planning. The critical factor is to have uninterrupted power for things like pumps.

I think the biggest issue, location dependent, is access issues due to weather like snow. Even if the community isn't going into the outside world, several feet of standing snow for months on end can be brutal.

Location, location, location!

a reply to: Nothin

This would be useful when SHTF.

And sadly a lot of people are out of touch with nature.

originally posted by: Nothin

Could we start a new society/community, out in the forest?
How far could a little self-sufficient society get, with no governance?
Would we self-destruct?

Humanity started-out by having success in daily survival situations.
Why couldn't we do it again? Are we too soft?

What about a bunch of folks just go-off, and start anew? With the intention of never coming back.
What skills would be needed?

Why would we do that to the already dwelling forest-dwellers and creatures? Because we can? Run away from what we ourselves have done to ourselves? Divide and conquer or just "take" it and move on in?

We did that to the native Americans and it didnt turn out so well for them...*

*PS Just go buy a bunch of survival and off-the-grid books. There are hundreds...Question answered, thread-pointless. Sorry