Florida dad fires gun to stop 17-year-old daughter's attempted kidnappers

So they just got caught doing a B&E and it all came out that they had this elaborate criminal plan? They sound like very dumb criminals to have allowed that to slip out.

Should probably choose a new career path.

-Alee

originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: JBurns

This sort of event is all too frequently ignored by the press.

Some people would suggest that this is some plot to lessen or cheapen the second amendment, by under reporting successful and appropriate use of ones right to protect oneself, ones family and home.

I look at it a different way. I believe that when things go as they should, there simply is no story. Its when things go entirely wrong that news is made. Things being just fine, things working out well, people doing what they should be doing simply is not news, has no bite, has no pull for editors or journalists, unless they have specific interests in the issues presented.

I am willing to bet that this story's being published, has more to do with the fact that the second amendment is under heavy scrutiny at the moment, than it does to do with this specific incident being rare, strange, odd, or in some way statistically interesting, or anomalous in some regard, because I believe that this is NOT in any way unusual, in so far as it features appropriate application of force, by an armed homeowner.

Not a rare event, just rarely reported, because things going the way they should, just is not that interesting.

It's good to read a story like this and I completely agree with you, we tend to only get the mass shooting stories here and to get an unbiased story without lots of death is a good balance.

originally posted by: Macenroe82
a reply to: JBurns

Should of let them get in the door before he fire the shots.

Then let the dogs finish the job

a reply to: ignorant_ape


Please refrain from making obscure and irrelevant comments on my thread.

Thanks

a reply to: TrueBrit


Agreed TrueBrit!

I have to say I couldn't be more pleased with the outcome. Not only is this a huge win for gun rights advocates (and ammosexuals like myself), but its a huge win for the teens who got to live after attempting something so stupid/reckless.

To think that an inanimate object could stop a crime without even hitting the target - I've seen/heard so many examples of this though! Talk about a multi-purpose object - psychological stops at their finest!

a reply to: Kurokage

Its worth pointing out, that reporting on a story which features death, whether a small or a large number of them, is not necessarily biased. In fact, it would be more biased if death tolls were under reported, or if bad things never made the news, because that would indicate that the media were looking to hide deaths, to obfuscate the nature of the event entirely.

For example, if you saw all that shooting from the Mandalay Bay videos, and heard of no deaths as a result, you would raise an eyebrow, would you not?

Its not bias, not to report on successful use of ones second amendment rights. Its just not news unless its somehow horrible. Look at it this way.

A man gets into his car at eight in the morning, drives to work, does his shift, and goes home, during which time he is not shot at, stabbed, mugged, sexually assaulted with an avocado and a rolled up issue of the New York Times, or beaten by a group of teenagers, just for laughs with a stolen mailbox. In short, he had a relatively chill day. Is this news? Nope. Lets say the same guy gets into his car at eight in the morning, drives to work, and on the way someone pulls out in front of him, and he JUST manages to brake in time to prevent a costly or dangerous collision? Is there any story here? No, not really, nothing of note. Happens all the time, every day. Nothing extraordinary about it. Its just a guy doing what he should have done, keeping control of the car and keeping his wits about him, even when things are not ideal.

But that same fellow gets into his car drunk at eight in the morning, meanders his way to work at twice the speed limit, crushing three pet dogs, one grandmother, six school children and a postman, before careening through the wall of his place of work, causing a crack in a gas main, which then leads to an explosion which shuts down the district for a few hours... THAT is news, big news too. It ticks every box, there's a breakage of speed limit, the drink drive limit, several counts of causing death by dangerous driving, criminal damage, infrastructural collapse, highlighting of serious emergency response funding failures, and a whole host of other, juicy details.

Do you see what I am saying?

originally posted by: NerdGoddess
So they just got caught doing a B&E and it all came out that they had this elaborate criminal plan? They sound like very dumb criminals to have allowed that to slip out.

Should probably choose a new career path.

-Alee

Agreed

Turns out criminals are stupid hoods after all. My bet is they cracked under pressure, and cried their eyes out while telling investigators every last detail from the tripod/head down submission position

a reply to: TrueBrit

THAT is news, big news too. It ticks every box, there's a breakage of speed limit, the drink drive limit, several counts of causing death by dangerous driving, criminal damage, infrastructural collapse, highlighting of serious emergency response funding failures, and a whole host of other, juicy details. Do you see what I am saying?

You missed out where he hit a mailbox - "damage to Federal Government property"

But thanks for telling us how "newsworthy" news works.


Any updates about the political sex scandals in Britain?

We need some balance to that other Brit who creates daily threads about the USA.

a reply to: TrueBrit


Maybe biased was the wrong word to use, unsensational or less headline grapping may have been a better term.

a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight

The update on the political scandals breaking in the UK is, that they are absolutely nothing to do with this thread, and I will not be commenting on them further in this thread as a result, and you shouldn't either.

a reply to: TrueBrit

One of the reasons the press ignores these types of stories
is they only want to report on blood,guts and gore.

originally posted by: Asktheanimals
I don't care about the age of the perps, if they're ready to kidnap people they're ready to take a bullet for the cause.

Seconded. I was a dumb teenager once too. I didn't try to break into people's houses. These scum have little to contribute to our society.

originally posted by: NerdGoddess
So they just got caught doing a B&E and it all came out that they had this elaborate criminal plan? They sound like very dumb criminals to have allowed that to slip out.

Should probably choose a new career path.

-Alee

Hopefully making license plates.

a reply to: face23785

Same here face23885. Never this kind of BS anyhow. I can't even imagine being incapacitated while your daughter gets kidnapped. Terrible stuff

Cautiously waiting to see if the daughter was in on it. (I watch waaay too many true crime shows)

originally posted by: Vector99

originally posted by: Macenroe82
a reply to: JBurns

Should of let them get in the door before he fire the shots.

Seeing as it's a few teenage kids being stupid as hell, I think the better outcome is warning shots rather than 3 dead teens.

Then again, if they are known thugs? I would agree 1000% with you.

Well, apparently they were going to kidnap his FKNG daughter, So, i really dont care if they are "known" or if this was the first thing they ever did wrong. I would be just perfectly ok if this had been their first, and last mistake they will Ever make.

When I think about what Couldve happened if he didnt have his gun, and/or if he had been taking a nap, or shower, or if the daughter had been home alone, it makes my blood boil.

originally posted by: Asktheanimals
I don't care about the age of the perps, if they're ready to kidnap people they're ready to take a bullet for the cause.

agreed, this won`t put an end to their criminal careers they will just find easier victims next time, the only way to permanently put an end to their criminal careers is to kill them.

a reply to: JBurns

t is neither obscure - nor irrelevant

your own post is blatantly contradictory

dont attempt to tell people how to respond to threads

a reply to: ignorant_ape


You mean like this:

please be internally consistent

I don't really care how you respond - takes way more than words to hurt my feelings. My reply was intended to showcase the jocular nature of your reply. You allege my OP is "internally inconsistent" but no provide no such example or evidence supporting that claim.

Why in your opinion is my OP inconsistent?