Age of solar system on the premises of the Bible

Here's a simple equation for ya all to ponder, showing that modern science and the ancient mystery schools are in somewhat accord. According to Psalm 90 one day for God is like 1000 years for humans, and in Genesis 1 God apparently creates this here solar system in 7 days or such periods of time. Thus on the sixth «day» God creates humans, and story goes, «The Divine Man» (Genesis 3) would rule this here world for 7000 years until God would judge «the quick and the dead»-- given the Key of David (1 day = 1000 years, Psalm 90). Thus we get the following equation ==>

Six «days» until Adam is created in Genesis 1 ==>
6000 x 365 x 1000 = 2 190 000 000
7000 years of Adam until God returns (Psalm 90) ==>
7000 x 365 x 1000 = 2 555 000 000
SUM ( ==> 4 745 000 000

Compare with the age of our solar system according to Wikipedia ==>
AGE ==> 4 568 000 000

Now, what do you guys think? That's pretty close, aye?

a reply to: Utnapisjtim

your delusion breaks down - when you jjust interchange day [ 24 ] with millenia [ 1000 years ] - as you are clearly cherry picking - some " days " are clearly only refering to a 24 hour period - and there is no biblical context for " god days " and " mortal days "

but hey - please persaude the xian wingnuts that your are " correct " - at least it will shut them up if they believe you

a reply to: ignorant_ape

You seem awfully biased and about as blinded as the xians you protest. Personally I am an atheist, agnostic at best, but a non-believer. In the ancient mystery schools they had this catch phrase saying «everything is numbers» and «numbers don't lie». If I believe in anything, it would be along the lines of building bridges between religious half wits and scientific decimal wits. I don't believe the ancients were stupid, there are more than enough evidence of immensely old high technology around the globe, built so sturdy some of these things have lasted for 100 000s of years. And we have books like the Vedas explaining nuclear explosions and aircrafts hundreds of thousand years ago.

Thing is, knowledge is power, it always was, and the ancients knew that above all else and instead of saying things straight out, they coded things like the age of the universe and such into riddles and art and had systems of initiation where new levels of knowledge was given, from the same grand equation they learned at stage 1, only new keys were given at each new stage to unlock new perspectives and even grander mysteries. Much like in modern Masonic rites.

According to Genesis 1, Man was created on «Day 6» of the original «Divine week», and on «Day 7» God rested. The idea is, that Man would rule for a «Divine Week» until God would return to judge Man's achievements. In Revelation we are told that before the Judgement there would be one such Sabbath of 1000 years of Peace, and there was also one such Sabbath from Man's creation until God had rested. This Sabbath is referred to as the so called «Peace Millennium». Thus the complete time from the creation of humans until judgement gives the following equation ==>

8 000 x 365 = 2 920 000

Now according to the fossil record, the homo genus split from it's evolutionary predecessors about that exact time. Modern humans (homo sapiens sapiens) have roamed this planet over a period of 300 000 years and all in all the homo genus is estimated to be around 3 000 000 years old. Source: Wikipedia.

Again, the riddle of Genesis' opening verses still rings sort of oddly true.

Um... Fiddling around with some figures to make a sum is what bankers do? My question is whether you are accounting for leap years?

a reply to: Utnapisjtim

But why would you?

originally posted by: Woodcarver
a reply to: Utnapisjtim

But why would you?

Why not?

i think anything that suggests there was soe truth in the mythalogical writings of the past is great!

originally posted by: paraphi
Um... Fiddling around with some figures to make a sum is what bankers do? My question is whether you are accounting for leap years?

Well, I'm not a banker, and unless you knew it, mathematics is the language of science. As for leap years, we are talking about universal figures and the length of the years has been of varying length, but at the time of Adam it was about 365 years long. 10 000 years ago there weren't leap yards like today. And 3 million years ago things looked differently.

originally posted by: Woodcarver
a reply to: Utnapisjtim

But why would you?

Would what? Explain that biblical mystery actually works? Showing «Intelligent Design Theory» is bogus? What's the point in making progress if the progress has already been made. Millions of years ago?

originally posted by: nonspecific

originally posted by: Woodcarver
a reply to: Utnapisjtim

But why would you?

Why not?

i think anything that suggests there was soe truth in the mythalogical writings of the past is great!

My thoughts exactly!

originally posted by: paraphi
Um... Fiddling around with some figures to make a sum is what bankers do? My question is whether you are accounting for leap years?

Would it really make that much of a difference?

Why does god need a time scale?

How does god counts one day? We know a day is simply 24hrs or the time it takes the earth to make a full revolution on its axis relative the sun. How does god counts a day then?

a reply to: Utnapisjtim

Six «days» until Adam is created in Genesis 1 ==>

Wouldn't that be 6 days X 1000 years/day = 6000 years?

-dex

originally posted by: DexterRiley
a reply to: Utnapisjtim

Six «days» until Adam is created in Genesis 1 ==>

Wouldn't that be 6 days X 1000 years/day = 6000 years?

-dex

If God was a man yes, but part of the deal is he wasn't, aye?

originally posted by: odzeandennz
Why does god need a time scale?

How does god counts one day? We know a day is simply 24hrs or the time it takes the earth to make a full revolution on its axis relative the sun. How does god counts a day then?

You forget that Heb. Yom (day) has a bunch of meanings. It actually means a «while» or «time period» of any given length. A year is a Yom, a day is a Yom and an astrological Yom is a Yom of about 2000 years. Talking of stuff like what is handled in Genesis 1, which aligns with geological ages, we are talking about much greater Yoms. Millions and billions of years-- Besides, Yom is a plural noun and the definition of «Day» is modern, as in Aramaic and Modern Hebrew where Yom has become identical with day. However, translating the Yom of Genesis 1 as seven 24 hour days is historical anachronism.

In Biblical Hebrew, Yom translates into a wide array of periods of time. See screen dump from biblehub.com below ==>

a reply to: Utnapisjtim

I must be missing something here. Bear with me.

Did God say to Adam that it took Him 6 days to create the Universe?

Or did He say that it took Him 6000 years to create the Universe? And then Adam, knowing the key, recorded it as 6 days?

-dex

ETA:
If the last question is true, then I can see how a units mismatch could lead to you equation:
God says 6000 years meaning 6000 DivineYears.
Adam misunderstands 6000 years to mean ManYears, and records it as 6 DivineDays.

Using that logic I can see how you arrived at 6000 DivineYears * 365 DivineDays/DivineYears * 1000 ManYears/DivineDay = 2190000000 ManYears

-dex

a reply to: DexterRiley

I refer to my equation. You seem to have misunderstood this for some sort of «intelligent design» crap. You must take both God and Divine Man (Man became divine when he ate from the Tree of Life aye?) into your equation. God lives on a time scale set apart from us humans, but at the same time Man is on adifferent time scale as regular time, being divine and all, but on a lesser scale than the Father of Man, aye? Genesis 1 talks about 8 periods of time relative to God (dimension 1). Then Man is created and made divine (dimensions 2 and 3), further, we see them in symphony (dimension 4).

We are humans, divine humans aware that we are living the sky together with Venus and Mars, but humans, less than God living with a different time scale than the God up there so to speak, but being we were made divine by Lilith (evolutionary predecessor of Eve) we added a sort of square to common time. Thus every day we lived (3 million years) equals 3 million years x 365 days x 1000 years or about 1bn years, and that's a mere day to God all taken into account, aye? And given God had spent 7 such «days» before he let us out of the bag in Caucasus about the last time civilisation made another try about 6 000 years ago in Sumer-- well, things start quantifying into higher proportions. So 6bn years plus 7bn more is about the age of our whole local multiverse.

a reply to: nonspecific
Good god non, haven't you got it? He's actually saying, by his calculations, that god will appear any time now.
Now a serious question for Utna. Before god there was nothing, correct? Now if there was nothing then there wasn't an Earth, Sun or anything to define what a day or even a year was. As we know a year is the time the Earth blah, blah, blah. But what about a better definition of a year than using a galactic measurement, A light year?
Trying to reconcile any religious text with actual happenings you're onto a loser.
Another question, according to the bible, how do you reconcile the number of years that Methuselah lived. 696 years? How through your numerical conjuring do you explain that?

24 hour period had no relevancy before earth.

Year is determined by orbit amplitude. Day is determined by spin velocity. Its more interesting that the location of God is given away.

originally posted by: crayzeed
a reply to: nonspecific
Good god non, haven't you got it? He's actually saying, by his calculations, that god will appear any time now.
Now a serious question for Utna. Before god there was nothing, correct? Now if there was nothing then there wasn't an Earth, Sun or anything to define what a day or even a year was. As we know a year is the time the Earth blah, blah, blah. But what about a better definition of a year than using a galactic measurement, A light year?
Trying to reconcile any religious text with actual happenings you're onto a loser.
Another question, according to the bible, how do you reconcile the number of years that Methuselah lived. 696 years? How through your numerical conjuring do you explain that?

According to the Old Norse: Before «The Beginning» (Bereschit -- Genesis) there was nothing. No dirt no nothing. A single straw of grass guarded, growing in the turds of the first gods. Geologically speaking we still have a few days left before the real Slim Shady shows up, Crazy.

Never knew why people seem to forget about one passage. "He will come as a thief in the night, no one will know the day or time" another passage says that even the sun of God doesn't know when.

It just seems pointless. We will not know when its coming. I have seen countless equations and they never seem to agree. They have been countless "prophets" who have "known" when the world was going to end. They have all been wrong.

a reply to: Utnapisjtim

According to the Old Norse: Before «The Beginning» (Bereschit -- Genesis) there was nothing. No dirt no nothing. A single straw of grass guarded, growing in the turds of the first gods. Geologically speaking we still have a few days left before the real Slim Shady shows up, Crazy.

Ah ha! I knew it! I've always been of the opinion that humans evolved from alien e. coli. It's nice to know that the Old Norse had a same theory. Well, sort-of.


-dex