catalonian parliament declares independence from Spain

originally posted by: intrptr
The brutal suppression of voting in the referendum was indeed fascist behavior.

Like what Russia did in Crimea?

I find your shifting ethics to be of concern. When Putin did all you are claiming with Spain you excused those actions. Why are they now an issue for you?

Secondly I would like to know if any Russian entities are involved in the Catelonia mess.

originally posted by: grey580
I wonder when ISIS moves in to help.

Or some other group comes in or another one starts up to start the terror attacks in Madrid.

CIA maybe?

Isn't Catalonia rather white?
Separation is a good thing. Let's get rid of California too. Everyone will be happy.

I think i'll upgrade from Human to Animal and declare myself independent from the human race. I get to wander and # where i please, build a small home where i choose an when i need one. Try and get on some protected species list.

Live off the land or whatever. If i become i'll or get hit by a car people will say, awe, the poor thing, phone the RSPCA...I'd get the best vet treatment money, Humans money can buy.

The reality is within two weeks i'd have a pest control officer hunting me down and poisoning my water supply.

a reply to: Soloprotocol

Stay out of the Middle East and near east then... They arrest animals for being spies.

a reply to: PapagiorgioCZ

We actually need California.

Who else is going to fund welfare in red states?

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: Soloprotocol

Stay out of the Middle East and near east then... They arrest animals for being spies.

The good people of Hartlepool once hung a monkey as a French spy and are still called monkey hangers to this day.
*The mascot of their football team is also a monkey called "Hangus"

originally posted by: SprocketUK
www.bbc.co.uk...
70 votes to 10 in the parliament to declare independence from Madrid.

Well, if the vote occurred in Syria, all the western powers would be clamoring for the Syrian government to "respect the vote."

But, since this is "Spain", a western power itself, that vote is "illegal."

a reply to: AMPTAH

Yeah because the government and laws of Spain are exactly identical to the single person dictatorship of Syria.

Obviously, nobody likes/loves "Direct Democracy", like the liberals like to declare, when it doesn't suite them? I'd say, go to war! Take as many of them commie/socialist/E.U./Global bastards with you, as you can! You ain't going to win. But at least you can die, smiling. The world/global "community" ain't seeing nothing it hasn't before. ...history does, absolutely repeat itself. New names, new causes, "new freedoms". The story has been told a thousand times, for a hundred battles and a thousand WARs. Ain't nothing new.

"Democracy" lovers, only love "Democracy", when they have the "majority". Other than that?..You're a "nationalist", "hater" and "uneducated". It's sad, we as a "global community" need a good O'l fashion, .. "global face punching"..to set things right again. I personally hope the Cats stick to there "democracy"... Best thing that has happened in years!

a reply to: PapagiorgioCZ

California? I was born there. It ain't my country. So I just say, "I was born in the South". Apparently, I have a "unique accent". Dad's from Arkansas, Mom's from Michigan.. I was born a "Hillbilly" in L.A. County! No regrets. When is that "earthquake", "global warming" going to put that useless piece of the Republic in the Pacific Ocean?..

originally posted by: ufoorbhunter
a reply to: justwokeup

The EU was involved in destabilising the former Yugoslavia and actively encouraged the minorities over there to revolt in Bosnia then Kosovo. Surely what's good for the goose is good for the gander?

Thats a big claim, if i recall we recognised Slovenia and Croatia, the country fell apart, the army was Serbian and when Slovenia decided to be independant it kicked off but that was all due to the simmering Muslim issue that if you arent muslim you must be tortured and die.

Catalonia isnt even like Scotland and their referendum, its like California or Lancashire claiming independence.

Spain is borderline 3rd world and its Catalonia that is dragging it down, they still live in houses made of mud and there are no building regulations and bull murdering is a sport.

Spain should pull the plug for 12 months then watch them crawl back to civility.

originally posted by: Willtell
Does Catalonia have their own army, if not they can't do much but submit

No, but many people in the Spanish military will have come from Catalonia.

Why do people think that the Spanish will deploy the military into what is a political crisis? The people of Catalonia can now work out where they want to sit elections have been called. Spain is not some tin pot dictatorship.

In previous polls the balance of opinion was not for independence. We'll see whether the recent referendum has any legs as an indicator of opinion when people can vote in a legal election. As it should be.

a reply to: paraphi


According to the latest poll:
19% of the Catalans want to remain in Spain, 29% favor independence and 46% want more autonomy for the region.

politica.elpais.com...

Puigdemont Claims He’s Legitimate President Of Catalonia, Not Seeking Belgian Asylum

Having fled to Brussels to escape rebellion charges and perhaps a lengthy prison sentence, Catalan (ex?) leader Carles Puigdemont, who quietly fled Catalonia over the past few days, held a press conference at the Brussels Press Club. Puigdemont said that the Catalan government sees the upcoming regional elections, called after the imposition of Article 155, as a “democratic challenge” and will accept the results.

In a multi-lingual, rambling speech, Puigdemont - who appears to have almost capitulated in his crusade against Madrid - said he would respect the results of the snap election called by Madrid in response to the declaration of independence by the province’s parliament. He then called on the Spanish PM Mariano Rajoy to say if he would do the same. Puigdemont also reiterated his support for democracy and peaceful resistance to Madrid’s pressure on Catalonia, and said he arrived in the Belgian capital to put the issue of Catalan independence “in the heart” of the European Union.

So, the Madrid government has issued a European arrest warrant for the Catalan President.

A whole bunch of the Catalan parliament are also facing arrest.