Vegas Shooter Stephen Paddocks laptop in room is missing its hard drive

a reply to: elementalgrove

Okay, considering the police were the first on the scene they have to have it. If they are going, what, huh?, then its a cover up. Considering as well this is 'news' from "sources that told ABC", I give it about as much credence as I do nay other MSM 'story'.

OK, maybe we should add up all the evidence that points to two or more gunmen:

* Numerous witnesses reporting multiple shooters.

* Audio of the shooting clearly indicates two different weapons.

* Two windows were broken out, in adjoining rooms (or at least, in widely-spaced areas of the same room).

* The hard drive is missing from Paddock's laptop, supposedly removed before the police arrived.

Have I missed anything?

originally posted by: AndyFromMichigan
OK, maybe we should add up all the evidence that points to two or more gunmen:

* Numerous witnesses reporting multiple shooters.

* Audio of the shooting clearly indicates two different weapons.

* Two windows were broken out, in adjoining rooms (or at least, in widely-spaced areas of the same room).

* The hard drive is missing from Paddock's laptop, supposedly removed before the police arrived.

Have I missed anything?

Yes, also need to add that the room service receipt said "guests: 2"

a reply to: JaeG14

Well my friend, that's the stuff of conspiracy theories - there's always loose ends, illogical doings, things that just don't make sense.

a reply to: AndyFromMichigan

Don't forget we have dozens of videos with audio.

Some have clear views of the 32nd floor area.

Yet none show any flashes coming from the 32nd floor area at the times of the shots.

And yet we see normal room lights going on and off.

The gun flashes would have been visible.

For what purpose would trump orchestrate this?
He has a history of failed casinos among all his other failures.
Interesting none of his supporters are blaming the president but they blamed every other one for mass shootings.

a reply to: JaeG14

What if the receipt was fake ?

Not hard to produce.

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: JaeG14

What if the receipt was fake ?

Not hard to produce.

Not sure what the purpose would be like n faking it. If it was faked, it's a good fake as someone produced legit receipts and compared them and they looked identical

originally posted by: JaeG14

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: JaeG14

What if the receipt was fake ?

Not hard to produce.

Not sure what the purpose would be like n faking it. If it was faked, it's a good fake as someone produced legit receipts and compared them and they looked identical

Except why release just one receipt from one meal, if not to "show" that there may have been "2" people in the room? No doubt he had many meals in the room or the casino, why not release those other receipts?

it's this piece-meal releasing of information that gets people's back up

a reply to: LanceCorvette

I don't believe it was the authorities who released it at all. It was an MGM employee who leaked it without authorization to do so. Perhaps that's the only receipt they had access to.

originally posted by: JaeG14
a reply to: LanceCorvette

I don't believe it was the authorities who released it at all. It was an MGM employee who leaked it without authorization to do so. Perhaps that's the only receipt they had access to.

That's correct. Laura Loomer got it from an employee of Mandalay Bay. She posted it just a few days after the shooting, along with saying that he had checked into the hotel on the 25th. It wasn't for another week that the Sherriff confirmed that yes, he was there on the 25th. I think that adds credibility to the receipt she posted as being legitimate.

This is interesting.
Lap top hard drive missing.

Now his brother is being investigated, or rather was, before the shooting for child porn.

Something is going on, and I think what ever was on that hard drive is the key.

I'm thinking his brother knows something and cops are slapping some bogus dirt on him to make him talk as well.

Now this is starting to make sense The Vegas shooting plot thickens - mysterious Paddock home break-in reported that nothing seems to have been stolen...

wanna bet?

This one is fairly obvious...

Now whoever has that HD has a reason for having it as it was left as fail safe (literally a deadman's switch collateral)

Great timing given the latest Vegas Shooter Stephen Paddock Brother Arrested for Child Porn

FINALLY my incredible WTF moment on the MSM...

He is not the first mass shooter to destroy or hide digital clues.

In 2007, Virginia Tech shooter Cho Seung Hui removed the hard drive of his computer and disposed of his cell phone shortly before the massacre. Authorities even searched a pond for the missing digital media, but the devices were never recovered.

The 2008 Northern Illinois shooter, Steven Kazmierczak, removed the SIM card from his phone and the hard drive from his laptop, and neither was recovered.

In 2012, Sandy Hook shooter Adam Lanza had removed the hard drive from his computer and smashed it with a hammer or screwdriver.

The more I think about the shooting, that this is really looking like an espionage movie script! Trying to make any sense of it, the more I am reminded of Egon in Ghostbusters...

"I'm terrified beyond the capacity for rational thought.”

a reply to: LanceCorvette

Not to mention the fact that the police reported that there were indications that he had an escape planned.

a reply to: abeverage

Nice work!

So thinking through this logically, either of:

Removing hard drives/SIM drives is part of the pathology of a mass shooter; or
These are all incredible coincidences, inasmuch as we've established removing a hard drive and losing it is pretty unusual; or
The FBI or other three-letter agency removes them for some reason.

What I can't figure is if it's the FBI/etc., why not just take the entire device? Leaving the device but taking the drive just raises the "why?" question.

I didn't think this incident could get any more bizarre but now we have a missing HD. it would be relatively easy to dispose of one in the numerous garbage cans in a casino/hotel but why. We still have no info on why this attack was carried out and I have not seen any video of this nutbag in the casino or hotel.

No note, no video, no motive, not a dang thing...only silence.

This is why people believe in conspiracies and the govt seems to enjoy perpetuating them.

He was very possibly using Tails. It is very common. Usually you use Tails with a laptop without a hard drive for secure/anonymous internet activity. I use it. Several of my acquaintances use it. Whistle blowers, journalists and law enforcement use it.

If he was using Tails it suggests that he was communicating securely with someone who was helping him, or maybe he was just good at hiding illicit business activities.

If he was using Tails on a microSD card or small thumb drive it would have been very easy for him to dispose of by flushing it, swallowing it etc.

Tails is the nemesis of the NSA.

Disclaimer: Wikipedia has stated that those who google Tails or go to the Tails website are flagged by the NSA.
Learn about Tails at Wikipedia here: en.wikipedia.org...
Official Tails website: tails.boum.org...

It is POSSIBLE to use a laptop/computer WITHOUT a HARD DRIVE. They can be booted using a USB STICK or LIVE CD or NETWORK CARD. Not sure how technically savvy this guy was, but I think it is important to recognize that a missing hard drive does not automatically determine the usability of a computer for cameras or other purposes. It is also possible to boot a computer, load software into memory (or even a RAM DISK), and THEN REMOVE THE HARD DRIVE. The computer will still function normally as long as the power is not interrupted (restart/shutdown)

a reply to: seattlerat

It's easier than that. If you're running Linux, then you can boot directly from an SD card. SD card technology has come a long way and you can buy 1TB SD cards now for around $50. An SD card can be disposed of ridiculously easy compared to a hard drive.

maybe some of the "undescribed" electronic equipment in his room was a stargate. so to avoid cameras in casinos, etc. he popped in from God knows where, loaded everything he needed for the task, then when the gate closed it sucked out the window glass. and then when he was finished he opened i it again and threw the hard drive into it and any extra fools in there with him went through it as well.
top that!