Astonishing 50 kids a week referred to sex change clinics in the UK

a reply to: TruthxIsxInxThexMist

How is the LGBTQ community at fault exactly? I know a few gay people; I don't see them going around telling other people they should be transgendered all the time.

Media viruses are contagious.
I wonder how many gender exchanges can be found in the royal family.

Anyway, we all see the pattern and this kind of information should be another wake-up call for all of us to encourage to be closer to our kids. Raising kids properly is a very hard job.
A lot of pedagogical ideas that fly around these days are not just wrong, but hostile.

P.S. IMO, not only those kids need professional psychological/psychiatric help instead of surgery and drugs, but their parents, too. Moreover, perhaps in some cases parents even should be held accountable.

a reply to: kaylaluv

I had all sisters and never wanted to be a girl so this whole universal gender disphoria BS has no science backed behind it.

DO they offer hormones at this clinic as an alternative to surgery? I know teen are starting to get on hormones early and I'm sure it can't be healthy changing your body in such a drastic way.

Trance gender is normal. There was a study in India back in the 60s. Apparently 1 in 20 born with mind of opposites sex. Trance gender fastival in tamil nadu, attracted millions around the states. And it going on fir 1000s of years.

Now.. in the west, i would say there is more tance genders then racists.

a reply to: audubon

We cant assume the medical industry has our best interests at heart. Pharmaceutical reps throwing out samples and rewarding docs for prescriptions is a known and common thing, no conspiracy.

With the opioid epidemic exacerbated by the same crooks, we cant assume this isnt an agenda while blindly being led by "Pros"

a reply to: kaylaluv

Of course I didn't question my identity as a boy. I never wanted to be something I wasn't. It's too bad that setting your children up for failure is ok to you, but I love my kids too much for that, and my parents never set me up for failure either. I don't play your 21st Century progressive games. I'm too traditional and love my own kids too much for that.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

The gay community doesn't consist of just the few gay people you know. I work with a few that wouldn't push such an issue either. We've all read the stories about Kindergartners being exposed to stuff like this. They shouldn't be exposed to anything like that til way later in life, And changing your sex should never even be an option.

originally posted by: JedemDasSeine
Media viruses are contagious.
I wonder how many gender exchanges can be found in the royal family.

Anyway, we all see the pattern and this kind of information should be another wake-up call for all of us to encourage to be closer to our kids. Raising kids properly is a very hard job.
A lot of pedagogical ideas that fly around these days are not just wrong, but hostile.

P.S. IMO, not only those kids need professional psychological/psychiatric help instead of surgery and drugs, but their parents, too. Moreover, perhaps in some cases parents even should be held accountable.

Couldn't agree more here... Most of these parents are either too busy for their kids and let them do what they want to keep the kid off the parent's back or they're led by their kids. Both are dangerous. These people shouldn't have kids, they don't understand the long term danger they're causing, or they don't care.

a reply to: LSU0408

The point is that the LGBTQ community isn't a solid mass of desire. If you have an issue with children being exposed to this stuff at an early age fine (I mean I don't as I don't think humans should get so rigidly hung up on gender identity and feel like it is ultimately unhealthy that we do), but blaming the whole gay community just because you are upset just shows an unwillingness to understand the problem you have an issue with.

a reply to: Butterfinger

There's a bit of a difference between (on the one hand) pharma reps encouraging doctors and apothecaries to recommend a promoted brand of self-administered medicine, and (on the other) embarking on a huge and wicked conspiracy to remove children's genitals for little more than #s and giggles, thereby knowingly laying oneself open to a historically huge class action lawsuit in less than a decade's time.

The former is comprehensible and petty; the latter is so grandiosely stupid that would be turned down by a sci-fi publishing house with a specialist line in medical dystopias tailored to the Westboro Baptist Church's 'book of the month' club.

At least you understand where I'm coming from.

originally posted by: Dwoodward85
a reply to: TruthxIsxInxThexMist

I can explain why:

It's because we have people having children who aren't just trying to make their children think that they're in the wrong body but damn near demanding it. I've seen three kids at the school I work at talking about being in the wrong body and when I asked them why they felt like that or if they could explain what it means to them two of them have said the same thing (although not the same words) "Well Mum/Dad told me that's why I'm depressed" I can't talk them round because it's against the rules. Parents of a certain age see this as the ultimate goal I really do think that.

It should be banned for any children to go through any surgery (Transgender) until they age of sixteen (starting the tablets etc. about 13) allowing them time to adjust to the troubles of going through puberty when we all feel a little screwed up and confused about who we are and what we are. But it's all about "accepting people" rather than pointing out that you can't change your gender and that some people are just mentally ill rather than actually in the wrong body but the number is going to grow until we put the truth out and start explaining the reality.

At least you understand where I'm coming from.

Unfortunately it's too late to fix the link in my OP so for nyone who can't find the story, here it is:

www.mirror.co.uk...

originally posted by: LSU0408
In a few years when they all wake up and realize it's not as "trendy" as it used to be, they're gonna regret such a move.

I agree.

Children under 10 just don't know what they're doing. Their parents are also to blame I might add. Surely they should speak to their children about these issues (well, they have to now anyway).

This was all stuff children never had to worry about or think about.

a reply to: audubon

I don't believe I'm wrong.. no.

This stuff was never around as much as it is now. It's obviously down to it being in the childs face either at school or on the net

originally posted by: TruthxIsxInxThexMist
a reply to: audubon

I don't beliee I'm wrong.. no.

This stuff was never around as much as it is now. it's obviously down to it being the childs face either at school or on the net

That's only because it was pushed out of sight and out of mind, but just because you don't look at it doesn't mean it didn't exist.

originally posted by: JDmOKI
a reply to: TruthxIsxInxThexMist

How can anyone think kids this young are capable of making such a decision even with a professional. Kids have no idea who they are at that young and adults are pushing their beliefs on them.

It's almost the same as a deeply religious family pushing God on their children except worse.

Agreed.

Who's idea was it to brainwash children in this way?

originally posted by: JedemDasSeine


P.S. IMO, not only those kids need professional psychological/psychiatric help instead of surgery and drugs, but their parents, too. Moreover, perhaps in some cases parents even should be held accountable.

Again, from the OP's link:

The Gender Identity Development Service is seen as a world leading centre for treatment of dysphoria.

It adopts a “staged model of care” to guard against children taking steps to change their sex and then regretting it.

Kids as young as three are offered counselling along with their parents when they first present at the clinic.

This can last for years.

originally posted by: TruthxIsxInxThexMist
This was all stuff children never had to worry about or think about.

Apart from, you know, all the ones who had to grow up in the wrong body and ended up adults with PTSD if they were lucky and just another suicide or murder statistic in one of the most vulnerable demographic groups known to society if they weren't so lucky.

I see it's transgender hysteria day on ATS again.



Let's see, tabloid rag prints hysterically misleading headline. Actual article doesn't actually say what the OP thinks it says.

The Oxford University endocrinologist said: “Many of these children have very mild gender dysphoria and are not very happy in their gender but puberty is a very confusing time. Others are clearly trapped in the wrong body.


So it's a tiny number of kids, 1100 out of the entire country, who get sent to a specialist unit for some mild counselling and therapy.

OH NOES! LGBT CONSPIRACY TO DESTROY THE ENTIRE FABRIC OF SOCIETY!